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  • Hi. Em, yeah.

    [電動車及其產業]

  • I'm gonna tell you something about what's happening in the car industry.

    嗨,是的

  • And I thought let's...

    我要告訴大家一些車輛產業的動向

  • Let's have the first picture put on the screen.

    那我想就…

  • This car.

    就請大家看螢幕上的第一張圖

  • I'd like to see some hands.

    這台車

  • Who already has seen this car on the road?

    有在路上看過這台車的人請舉個手

  • Who knows this car?

    誰知道這台車?

  • Okay. That's quite a lot.

    好,還蠻多人的

  • Well...

    嗯…

  • A friend of mine has one.

    我朋友有一台

  • And...

    當我們聊到這台車時

  • When I talk with him about it, he's..

    他都會特別興奮

  • He's always super enthusiastic.

    他說:「這台車加速超快!」

  • He says "Yeah, this car, it just accelerates like hell!"

    「太讚了!」

  • "It's crazy!"

    「還有這麼大的螢幕!」

  • "And it has this huge screen!"

    「我還可以下載應用程式在車上。」

  • "And I can download apps on it."

    「車上還能上網。」

  • "And I can surf the web."

    「真是太棒了!」

  • "It's amazing!"

    「它不只是一台電動車。」

  • "It's not just an electric car."

    「除了電動外還有很多性能。」

  • "It doesn't drive electric. It's more than that."

    然後…

  • And...

    當然也有冷靜的人

  • Well, there are also the non-enthusiasts.

    會說:「它是有不少補助沒錯。」

  • And I say "Well yeah, but it's heavily subsidized."

    「但沒有成長空間。」

  • "And that will never grow."

    「還要充電好幾個小時。」

  • "And it still charges in hours."

    這些都會改變的

  • Well that's gonna change.

    這也是我今天要談的

  • And that's what I'm talking about today.

    我的背景是什麼呢?

  • Em...

    我是荷蘭法斯奈德的執行長與創辦人

  • What's my background?

    法斯奈德是 設置快速充電站的公司

  • I'm CEO and founder of Fastned.

    就像這個

  • Fastned builds charging stations.

    就像一般的加油站

  • Like this.

    充電站設置在公路旁

  • Just like a regular gas station.

    你只要駛離公路

  • They're situated along the highway.

    開進充電站

  • And you can just exit the highway,

    插上插頭

  • go into the charging station,

    按開始充電鈕

  • put the plug in the car,

    二十分鐘後就充飽電了

  • press start

    這樣做的好處是

  • and 20 minutes later the car is full.

    電動車駕駛可以 開往任何自己喜歡的地方

  • What that will do is that will give

    就像汽油車一樣

  • electric vehicles drivers the freedom to drive wherever they like,

    你為什麼買車?

  • just like a gasoline car.

    你買車是因為可以隨心所欲

  • Why do you buy a car?

    這就是你想買車的原因

  • You buy a car because it gives you freedom.

    也是我們想實現的目標

  • That's why you want it.

    基本上就像殼牌和英國石油

  • And that's what we're going to do.

    設置加油站一樣

  • Basically the same as Shell or BP that puts on

    那為什麼我覺得這個產業

  • gasoline stations.

    邁向柯達一刻呢?

  • So why do I think that this industry

    柯達是很經典的一個例子

  • is headed towards this Kodak moment?

    因為柯達用數位相機 瓦解了攝影產業

  • Kodak is the classical example of

    再來看車輛產業

  • the photography industry being disrupted by the digital camera.

    看看電動車的發展

  • And what we see here,

    某種程度上是一樣的

  • what we see happening with the electric car

    車子走向電動化

  • is to some extent the same.

    變成電器

  • We see cars becoming electric.

    完全不同於

  • It's becoming an electric appliance.

    我們在機械產品中 常見的過程和經驗曲線

  • And it follows a totally different course

    例如和我們熟知的汽車不一樣

  • and experience curve than we are used to from mechanical products

    這項電器

  • like the current fossil fuel car that we know.

    在成本曲線上的表現

  • And this electric appliance

    就像你家的液晶電視一樣

  • it just goes through a cost curve

    或是數位相機的改良一樣

  • that you know from the LCD TV that you have at home,

    產品一年比一年好

  • from the improvement that we've seen in digital cameras.

    這是一種突破性發展

  • Year on year these products get better and better and better.

    高度的突破性發展

  • And that is disruptive.

    你看太陽能板

  • That's highly disruptive.

    在荷蘭有越來越多的房子

  • If you look at solar panels,

    在屋頂上放太陽能板

  • more and more houses in the Netherlands,

    為什麼要這樣做呢?

  • they are putting solar panels on their roofs.

    那是因為

  • Why are they doing that?

    這曲線不斷下滑

  • Well, because of this:

    每年太陽能板的改良率

  • this curve going down, down, down.

    約百分之二十左右

  • Year on year improvements in solar cells

    一年百分之二十 就是讓它更好、更便宜等等

  • are around 20%.

    也就是說

  • 20% per year to get cheaper, better, etc.

    如果每年都有這樣改善

  • And what that means,

    到時就能低於市電平價

  • if you do that every year,

    到時太陽發電能源

  • at some point, you'll cross that line of grid parity.

    將比電力公司的電便宜

  • At some point, your energy from the solar panels

    電池也是一樣

  • will become cheaper than

    電池是電動車的主要成本

  • the energy that you can buy from the grid.

    電池會越來越便宜

  • And the same is happening with batteries.

    我們已經在數位相機上看到實例

  • The batteries, that's the main cost component of our electric car,

    數位相機越做越好

  • they're getting cheaper and cheaper every day.

    儲存容量越來越多

  • We've seen the same from digital cameras.

    像素越來越高

  • Digital cameras got better.

    在十年間,使用率從零到百分之百

  • They got more capacity of photos.

    一開始有攝影師不喜歡相機

  • They got more megapixels.

    他們現在卻很愛用

  • In 10 years, the industry went from 0 to 100% adoption.

    電動車也會有同樣發展

  • When the photographers didn't like

    能更快速充電

  • the camera in the beginning,

    也會越來越普及

  • they now love it.

    雖然發展不會和數位相機一樣快

  • And we see the same happening with electric cars.

    但每年約會有百分之二十的成長

  • They will charge faster.

    我想若套用在車輛產業

  • They will have more range.

    就會有這樣的發展

  • And it's not as fast as the digital camera in development,

    這是截取自汽車畫刊

  • but it will be around 20% per year.

    是一本德國汽車雜誌

  • And I think, if we translate that to the car industry,

    這本雜誌簡述一些看法

  • this is what we see happening:

    或者應該說

  • this was an extract of the Auto Bild,

    德國人對於引進特斯拉電動車的想法

  • a German car magazine.

    上個月

  • It basically states the opinion,

    特斯拉在荷蘭賣了289輛

  • or let's say how the Germans thought about the introduction of the Tesla.

    型號S的電動車

  • Last month,

    同一個月 寶馬和奧迪共賣了

  • Tesla sold 289 vehicles in the Netherlands

    244輛奧迪A6及寶馬五系列

  • of the type Model S.

    這就是我說的突破性發展

  • In that same month, BMW and Audi combined sold...

    這一、二年間 電動車有了相當的市場佔有率

  • 244 Audi A6 and BMW 5 series.

    在高級房車市場已經如此

  • That's what I call disruption.

    除了價錢

  • In 1 or 2 years, you got a serious market share.

    還有什麼

  • It's already happening in this luxury segment.

    為什麼可以突破?

  • Then besides price,

    你可以在家充電動車

  • what else,

    家用電非常便宜

  • why would it be disruptive?

    你只要插上牆上的插頭就可以了

  • An electric car, you can charge it at home.

    這能鼓勵大眾買車

  • And at home, electricity is very cheap.

    為什麼呢?

  • You can basically put your car in a wall socket.

    如果你開一百公里只花二歐元

  • It's a huge incentive for people to buy a car. Why?

    你家附近也有自己的停車位

  • If you drive it for 2 Euros for 100 km,

    這樣就說得通了

  • and you have your own parking space for your car near your home,

    基本上你買電動車的邊際成本是零

  • that makes a lot of sense.

    所以整個電動車的成本比率

  • You basically get a 0 marginal cost product.

    和汽車完全不一樣

  • So the whole cost perception of the product of an electric car

    因此會有所突破

  • will be totally different than a gasoline car.

    最後將走向這個趨勢

  • And that will be disruptive.

    在未來的十到十五年間

  • This is what's gonna happen in the end.

    我們將看到市場快速成長

  • What we will see is in the coming 10 to 15 years,

    現在這個市場

  • we will see this market accelerate

    一年成長百分之五十或一百

  • Today this market is growing

    之後會再加速成長

  • at 50 or 100% per year.

    再過幾年會戲劇性的成長

  • And that will accelerate.

    也就是說

  • And it will go through the hockey stick in the coming years.

    最後加油站會慢慢式微

  • And that means that in the end,

    現有的車廠正坐以待斃

  • gasoline stations will be disrupted.

    也將慢慢式微

  • The existing car brands that are sitting ducks,

    只有車廠開啟電動車之路

  • they will be disrupted as well.

    開始研發

  • Only car brands that will really really step in,

    他們就能達陣

  • and today start their development,

    繼續走下去

  • they will get there,

    謝謝大家

  • they will be able to go along.

    (掌聲)

  • Thank you very much.

  • (Applause)

Hi. Em, yeah.

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