tofluency.com along with - Kate - this is my

還有Kate，這位是我的

wife, Kate and we are being quite

妻子。我們現在非常的有野心

ambitious because we have brought our

因為我們帶了

daughter along with us. So, we are going

我們的女兒一起來。所以，我們將要

to have a conversation in English and

開始一段英文對話

this is going to give you the

而這是要給你

opportunity to listen to a real

聽真實的

conversation both in British English and

英國腔英語和

American English and baby. And baby.

美國腔英語還有嬰兒語的機會

You'll hear some baby noises, no doubt. And

不要懷疑，你會聽到一些嬰兒的聲音

this is going to be on YouTube but we

這部影片將來會放在YOUTUBE上

might upload it as a podcast as well, so

我們可能也會將它上傳到podcast

if you are listening to the podcast, go

如果你有在聽podcast

to tofluency.com/podcast and you'll

前往 tofluency.com/podcast

be able to get some materials for this

你就可以得到一些這堂課的資訊

lesson. Now, our hope is not to edit this

現在，我們只希望不用剪輯太多影片

video too much, we're just going to have a

我們要開始

conversation and we are going to talk

展開對話並

about vacations.

談論假期了

Yep. And talk about traveling. Now, we

-是的 -還有旅遊

actually met while I was traveling back

我們事實上，是在我2007年從旅途回來時遇見的

in 2007. So, it's almost 10 years.

大約10年前了

Oh my gosh. I can't believe that it's

天啊，我真不敢相信

flown by, hasn't it. It has, yeah. And, erm, we

-這時光的飛逝，是不是 -是啊

have been living in America for about

我們有在美國住過約6年

six years now. How many vacations have

從那之後我們有過

been up since we've been here?

多少旅行?

Can you remember anything in particular?

你記得嗎?

That's a really good question. I think a

這真是個好問題

lot of times we end up traveling for

我想很多時候我們結束旅程後

visits to family more than we travel for

就去拜訪家裡，這種的次數比我們

pleasure or to get away from it all.

因為開心、或是想遠離塵世而想旅行的次數還多

Yeah, so because we, because we live in

所以，因為我們住在

America, my parents are in Europe; my

美國，我的雙親住在歐洲；我

sister's in Europe; your family is

妹妹也在歐洲。而你的家人也在別的地方

elsewhere as well, when we tend to travel

因此，當我們想去旅行的時候

we tend to go see family don't we? Visit family.

我們都會試圖順道去看看家人

Yeah.

是呀

Yeah, we do. Why don't you tell everyone about our

-是呀，我們都這麼做 -何不向大家聊聊我們

latest vacation? Our latest vacation?

-最近一次的旅行? -我們最近的一次旅行?

For the holidays this year, we actually

今年的假期，我們去了

went to Florida and we met up with your

佛羅里達，我們在那見到了你的

parents and your sister in Florida and

雙親和妹妹

we had more of a beach vacation.

我們事實上有了一個海灘假期

Yeah, it was fantastic. We went somewhere

去一個很溫暖的地方

really warm.

令人相當的興奮

I've got some videos on this, you know,

我那時有拍一些影片，你知道嗎

everyone can take a look at the videos

大家都可以看到

we made from Florida, but it was great

我們在佛羅里達拍的影片

to go somewhere different and not to go

但去一個不同的地方，然後不要

somewhere cold for Christmas. I know!

-去聖誕節時會很冷的地方會更好。 -我知道

Yeah, we've never done that before and it

是啊，我們之前從來沒這麼做過

didn't really feel like Christmas

然後就很不像聖誕節的感覺

because usually we associate it with snow

因為我們時常將它和雪

and cold weather and instead we were on

及寒冷的天氣連在一起，但我們

the beach on Christmas Eve.

在平安夜時在海灘上

Yeah, and Christmas Day. There were park rangers passing out

-是啊，然後聖誕節那天 -有很多公園騎警遞出

sunglasses.

太陽眼鏡

yeah giving out free sunglasses. Yeah. But

-是啊，遞給我們免費的太陽眼鏡 -是啊 -但

it was fun because people were playing

其實很好玩，因為人們都在撥放

Christmas music; they were wearing santa

聖誕節的樂曲，他們戴著聖誕老人的

hats and we went to the beach on

帽子，然後我們在聖誕節

Christmas Day.

當天前往海灘

mhm. Which... it was really strange; it was

-嗯 -這...真的相當的奇怪，老實說

really strange to be honest, but very

這真的很奇怪，但

enjoyable.

非常的有趣

Yeah it was. Yeah. And then, let's talk

-是啊，的確是 -是的。再來，我們來聊聊

about an ideal vacation now.

理想中的旅行

Because we are thinking about going

因為我們在想說這個夏天

away this summer...

要去哪裡走走

where would your ideal place be? Where

哪裡會是你理想中的旅行地點呢?哪裡

would you like to go? I don't know. I have

-是你想去的地方呢? -我不知道耶，我常常在想

always wanted to travel... somewhere

想要去旅行，去

really, kind of, different. Obviously

非常不同的地方，然後要是

somewhere that feels safe especially

很安全的地方

with the children. Where we don't have to

特別是帶小孩一起去的時候，我們不用

get a lot of vaccines before we go.

在出發前注射很多的疫苗

That's such a good point. But I would love to visit a

-這是很好的想法。-但我想要去

country with some different cultural

一個有著不同傳統、文化

traditions and food. I've always wanted

和食物的國家。我想去

to go to Morocco. Morocco? Very cool!

-摩洛哥。 -摩洛哥?好酷喔！

Yeah, we we nearly went, didn't we, while we

我們快要可以去了，不是嗎？當我們

were living in Spain.

住在西班牙的時候

Yeah. But we just never made it there. That was

-是 -但我們只是沒有去

the time to go when we were, you know,

當我們在那裏的時候，就是時候去了，你知道的

I mean, I think that once you start a family,

我的意思是，我覺得一旦你組成一個家庭

you realize that the time to go

你就會明白，出發的時間點是

was any time before you had kids.

你有小孩前的任何時候

Yeah, exactly, and that's why you'll hear

是啊，這就是為什麼你會聽到

people say to anyone who's just

有人說任何人在即將要有小孩前

about to have kids, you know, take

你知道

advantage and this time right now but,

就在這個時間點，趕快去冒險吧！

you know, you can do stuff with kids like

但，你知道嗎，你可以再有小孩的時候做，例如

make these videos and podcasts... so,

做這些影面和 podcasts，所以

yeah... you say Morocco, anywhere

你說摩洛哥，還有

else? I would love to explore

-其他想去的地方嗎？ -我也想要去

Australia more

澳洲探險

as well, and you have a cousin who

你有一個親戚住在

actually lives in Australia.

澳洲對吧

Yeah. That would.. it would be fun to visit them and

-對呀 -如果我們可以去拜訪他們，那會很有趣的

we've been talking a lot with our son

我們已經多次向我們的兒子說到

about koala bears and kangaroos and

無尾熊和袋鼠

different animals that live in

還有很多也住在澳洲的不同動物了

Australia, so that would be fun,

所以去那裏應該會很好玩

yeah, and I would love to travel more around

-是 -我也想

Asia as well. Yeah, I haven't really been

-環遊亞洲 -我還真的還沒去過

out that way at all.l I haven't been to

我還沒有去過

anywhere in Asia. I haven't been to Australia,

位於亞洲的任何國家。我也沒有去過澳洲

I think the farthest east I've been is

我想我有去過最遠，位於東方的國家

probably Germany.

大概是德國吧

Wow. Yeah and that's western Europe, so...

-哇 -是的，那是西歐，所以...

but you have been all the way down to

但你最南端有去過

Patagonia in South America. Yes.

-位於南美的巴塔哥尼亞了 -對

So, you've just traveled in a different

所以，你已經有往不同的方向去旅行過了

direction. But i feel like I'm so glad

我也為我有

that I have a partner who loves to

一位如此喜歡旅行的

travel.

伴侶感到開心

Yeah. That we found each other because we

我們會遇到彼此是因為

can go on more adventures and we can maybe

我們可以一起去我想去的冒險，我們也可以

take some trips now while Thomas is

在Thomas 還小的現在就來些旅行

little. But I would love to take him

但我會想要帶著他

and Emma, who's chiming in, on some

和Emma一起去。Emma是一位和我很合的人

neat vacations when they get older and

當他們長大些後的一些假期中

just travel and experience life in

就可以去世界不同的角落

different parts of the world.

旅行並體驗人生

Yeah, it's a strange time for us because

這是一段對我們而言很奇怪的時光，因為

it seems like we're just dealing with,

這就像是我們只是在決定

you know, emergency situations when we

你知道的，當我們在旅行時所遇到的

travel, and this year, though, when we went

緊急狀況，雖然，在今年，當我們去

to Florida, Thomas was excited about it.

佛羅里達，Thomas 非常的興奮

We could show him pictures and we could

我們會給他看我們當時的照片並

talk about it in terms of what we were

將我們當時發生過的事情

going to do and he got excited about

詳細的和他說，他聽到這個真的很

that.

興奮

Yeah. And he talks about it now. So he's

-是 -然後他現在在和我聊這個

developing those memories and we took

他正在挖掘那些記憶，我們

some great photos while we were there too.

也會在我們去那的時候拍些照片

Yeah, so, yeah. And I think, as the

-是 -是，所以我認為

children get older,

當小孩長大

we're going to have great times and we can

我們會有很棒的時光；我們

do very specific things, and they'll get those

可以做很多特別的事情；他們會有

memories - they will have those memories.

擁有這些記憶的

Yes. Where did you travel when you

是啊。你小的時候有去哪裡旅行嗎？

were a little? Do you have memories of

你對當時的旅行還有印象嗎？

traveling? We went to France a lot and we

我們有去過很多次法國和

went to Spain a lot and and well, you

西班牙，還有...你知道的

know, my memories when I was young - you

我年輕時的回憶-

always make fun of me because I talk

你總是嘲笑我，因為

about my memories all the time.

我常常在說我的回憶

Yeah, by the way, Jack has an incredible

對呀，順帶一提，Jack 有很驚人的

memory - you

回憶-你

well kind of well. When was your

-好的，好的 -你最早的記憶是從什麼時候開始的？

earliest memory from? how old were you?

你那時候幾歲？

I don't really know to be honest...

老實說...我不太記得了

no, there was that memory where I

不，我還對於我六個月大的時候，

remember being in my mum's arms when I

被我媽媽抱在懷裡

was six months old or I had to be six

或者是說我應該要是六個月大的時候

months old because they were in their old house.

因為他們在他們的舊家

I remember seeing our neighbor and my

我記得我看到了我們的鄰居

mom was talking to the neighbor.

然後我媽媽在和鄰居聊天

Yeah. And I remember... I remember that

-是 -還有我記得...我記得

little ,you know, snippet - that tiny bit of

一點點，你知道的，小小的片段，一段記憶中的

memory but it's not that clear. I know, but

-小部分，但並沒有記的很清楚。 -我知道，但

six months old, that's incredible. I think

六個月大，這真的很令人難以置信。我想

that'll mean that Emma will start to

這將代表Emma 很有可能會在這幾個月開始

remember life, potentially, in just a

對生活有記憶了

couple of months because she's almost

因為她已經

four-months-old. Yeah, she is. Emma, are

-四個月大了 -是的，沒錯 -Emma

you gonna remember this? Today? She might

-你開始有印象了嗎？今天？ -她或許

remember this. Or at least, she'll have the video

會記得。或者是，至少她會有這部影片

to look back on. We always

可以看。我們很長

went to France; we went to Spain a

去法國；也很常去西班牙

lot and when I think I was about 11 or

然後，當...我想我應該是11或12歲左右的時候

12 when, maybe younger, when we got

又或許是更年輕的時候，當時我們

a caravan. So. it used to take us three days

有台大車。它載了我們3天

to get to the south of France and we

讓我們到達法國的南邊，我們

would spend about two weeks there. We went to

在那大概待了2周

place called Canet Plage, which is near

我們去了一個叫 Canet Plage的地方

Toulouse and we went there every

那裏和 Toulouse 很近，我們大約有

summer for about five years, I think.

五年的時間，每個夏天都去那

And we've met the same people, it

然後我們見到了同一群人，這真的

was really cool because as a kid you want

非常的酷，因為做為一個小孩

to be around other kids

你會想要和其他小孩在一起玩

and there were a bunch of a children there who we

而那裡有一群小孩

could play with. They had a great pool;

是可以和我們一起玩的。他們有個很棒的泳池

they had sports going on. The beach was

他們就開始做運動了。海灘離我們

really close by. My sister liked it

很近。我妹妹非常喜歡

because she was getting to the age where

因為她已經到了

she could go out and it was that kind of

可以出去玩的年紀了，而那裡這是那樣的地方

place but, you know, it was

但，你知道嗎，它是很安全的

safe - it was great.

很棒的

We really enjoyed it. How was it

-我們在那裏玩得很開心。 -和家人一起出去玩的感覺如何？

traveling with your family, especially

特別是

as you got to be older in such a

當你長大後，還要在這麼狹小的車中

small vehicle and sleeping in it.

睡覺

I remember one trip especially when

我記得有一次出去玩，特別是當

... there was a big heat wave in France

...那時法國有個大熱浪來襲

and we, we just poured water over our

我們將水倒往頭上

heads because we didn't have air

因為我們

conditioning

車內沒有

in the car - super hot and the other thing

空調-非常的熱，然後還有就是

France at that time and I don't know

當時的法國...我不知道

if that's changed - but they didn't have proper

現在是不是有變了，但當時那裏沒有

toilets. They had like holes in the floor.

像樣的廁所，他們有的是像...地上有很多的洞

I bet that that has changed. I imagine it has.

-我賭它已經改變了 -我也是這麼想像的

You know, that's what I

你知道嗎，那是

remember about it.

我當時記得的

And then one year, we went down with

一年後，我們和

another family.

另外一個家庭一起下去

And a friend - one of my sister's friends

然後有一個朋友-我妹的一個朋友

came as well and I went in the car with

也有一起來，我當時是和

the other family they had air conditioning. And it

另一個家族一起搭他們的車，然後他們有冷氣

was such a big difference. Yeah, I

-這真的是很大的不同 -是，我

can imagine that's something that we

可以想像，那是我們

take for granted, I think. Yeah, no one in

-視為是理所當然的，我想 -是啊，英國沒有人

the UK had air conditioning in a car

車裡有空調

it was very very rare.

這真的很少見

Wow. It must be... because it doesn't get that hot.

-哇，這真的是... -因為那時沒這麼熱

So, people don't feel like they need it.

所以大家都不覺得他們需要那個

Yeah. Okay, we're back and I just asked Kate a

-是啊 -好的，我們回來，然後，我只是想問個

question about.. what you did for vacation.

問題關於...你在假日中都在做什麼

Where did you go when you were when you

當你還是小孩的時候，你都會去哪裡？

were a kid? When I was a kid we actually

當我還是小孩的時候，我們

took a family beach vacation every

事實上都每個夏天來個家庭海灘遊

summer. My family and family friends

我家人和我家人的朋友們

would rent a house on an island called

會在小島上租一個房子

Block Island which is an island the coast of

叫 Block Island，它是Rhode Island 和英格蘭

Rhode Island and New England and we

之間的海濱

would drive and take a ferry to the

我們可以開車或是搭渡輪去

island and we just had a great time. We

小島上，我們有很棒的時光

would go to the beach every day; we would

我們當時每天都會去海灘上

grill seafood at night.

晚上會烤海鮮來吃

Yeah, it was a really special memory

是的，那對我來說

for me. And was that like every

-是一段很特別的回憶 -那個是

summer?

每個夏天?

Yeah, it was every summer for probably

是，那是大概5年還是10年的期間，每個

five or ten years. Oh, really? Yeah, my mom

-夏天都會去 -喔！真的嗎？ -是啊，事實上

actually grew up going there when she

我媽媽小時候也常去那裏

was a kid too, so she had memories of the

一直到她長大，所以她

place and all the different areas to

對很多地方都有回憶，也知道很多

go and it was just a really neat... (thing to to do) When

-可以去的地方，這真的是個很奇妙的地方... -你

was the first time you went abroad?

第一次出國是什麼時候？

Do you remember? The first time that I went

-你還記得嗎？ -我第一次出國

abroad, I was probably about 10 years

是在我大概10歲的時候

old. My dad decided to start working for

我爸爸決定去

an airline because he really wanted to

航空公司上班，因為他真的很想

show us the world

帶我們去看看這個世界

and so he was working for a British

所以他在英國航空公司工作