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CHRIS HEWETT: Hello and welcome to Google Play.
I'm Chris Hewett.
Now, "Star Trek Into Darkness" is one of the most eagerly
anticipated movies of the summer.
I'm delighted now to be joined by the man who is the villain
of the piece, the man who's front and center in the
posters behind me, and the man who plays the enigmatic and
malevolent John Harrison.
It is, of course, Benedict Cumberbatch.
Hello, sir.
Thanks for joining us.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Hello.
How are you?
Lovely to be here.
KIRK: I request permission to go after him.
MALE SPEAKER: Star Fleet is not about vendetta, Kirk.
KIRK: Maybe it should be, sir.
MALE SPEAKER: Jim, you're not actually going after
this guy, are you?
KIRK: I have no idea what I'm supposed to do.
I only know what I can do.
CHRIS HEWETT: You're a very popular man.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Well, yeah.
Am I?
CHRIS HEWETT: I'll explain why, because we asked users in
Google+ and various other social networks to send in
questions for you, and they bombarded us.
It was like photon torpedoes.
They just bombarded us with questions.
They had many, many questions.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: I like the reference.
CHRIS HEWETT: Thank you very much.
And some of them were very personal.
They wanted to know your favorite
fruit, favorite perfume.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: That's outrageous.
That's really close to the skin.
CHRIS HEWETT: The color of your toothbrush.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Terrible, terrible, terrible,
terrible, joke that.
[INAUDIBLE] get over it.
I can't get away with it.
My favorite toothbrush?
CHRIS HEWETT: No, the color of your toothbrush.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: The color of my toothbrush?
CHRIS HEWETT: Yeah.
I think it's very invasive.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Yeah.
I mean, once people start to imagine what actually cleans
my teeth at night and in the morning, then I start to worry
a little bit.
I like to remain a little bit enigmatic, so the color of my
toothbrush will remain a secret.
CHRIS HEWETT: OK.
Well, we'll ignore that one.
We have some of the very best ones here.
We'll start off with the first one.
It is from Cumberbatch Web.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Right.
CHRIS HEWETT: You may know those guys.
Adam, Montserrat, and Edrich, who all asked, roughly at the
same time, you've got an incredible fan base for your
work in "Sherlock," and working on "Star Trek"
obviously opens you to an even bigger one.
Did it intimidate you to work in a film franchise with such
a rich history, high expectations,
and a vocal fan base?
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: It's a good question.
Yes and no.
Basically, the first film, J. J.'s first outing with "Star
Trek" in 2009 made me realize that the franchise was in very
safe hands and that, to be honest, he's such an
extraordinary filmmaker and human being, if I was pleasing
his idea of what he wanted my character to be within our
version of Trekdom, then that was the only concern or
preoccupation I had to have with expectations.
Because otherwise, that way madness lies.
You're never going to be everyone's.
Someone's going to be throwing up in the corner going, this
guy is horrendous.
And that's fine.
That's allowed.
That's what the world's about.
I'm very aware, of course, of how possessive, and rightfully
so, Trekkies are.
There's a huge deal of respect I have for them because it's
not just a name for a group of fans.
It's actually about a level of knowledge and understanding of
the subject matter.
But it's a strange thing because actually, that takes
ownership of what it is, which originally was a creative
process and received by them as an audience, and now the
audience has sort of taken control of it.
So there's good and bad with that.
There's knowledge which I completely bow to and would
love to immerse myself in, and have done
since doing the film.
So yeah, I think my fears, which were rightfully there,
obviously, because of their presence--
although I have to say, a lot of them were incredibly
benevolent.
However vocal they may be about what they like or don't
like, they're opinions.
They're not going to kill me, I hope.
It's just they're normal human things who just have a real
enjoyment of quite exceptionally rich, materially
rich genre and cult that is "Star Trek."
CHRIS HEWETT: Did you tap into that when you were--
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: No, not in preparation, again, for the
same reasons.
I wanted to be free of my own fears of what I was trying to
live up to or be, and what I was joining and
being a part of.
But I can step back now a little, and I have done, and
watched a lot more than I remembered having watched
sporadically as a child, both in film and television form,
and just been blown away by the level of sophistication,
dry wit, generosity, incredible condensing of
morality plays in these episodes.
There had to have been so many issue-driven drama highlights,
whether it be the first interracial kiss, or just
tackling any kind of idea of identity and place and purpose
and belonging, and also this wonderful, Utopian ideal of
what democracy in the future could be, this
all-encompassing star fleet of a universe that's tied by
bonds of a democracy rather than war and splintered
savagery and all the other things that threaten it.
It's interesting.
I think what J. J. does so generously in a sort of
Shakespearean way, especially with my character,
is flesh that out.
So I feel that he brings that generosity in a Shakespearean
way to all of his characters in a way that the original
series does as well, and so I hope that's something that
honors their intentions and their
expectations, I should say.
CHRIS HEWETT: The second question is from Nadia, who
asks, do you have anything in common with John Harrison?
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: I look a bit like him, also I've got a
little bit more light in my eyes normally
than I do in the poster.
I'm being very facetious.
Do I have anything in common with him?
Well, yeah.
I'm very loyal.
I'm quite tribal about the people that I care about.
I'm fiercely defensive of those who are close to me and
that I love, and that includes this family of people I just
worked with on this film.
It's a powerful reflection that is seen all the way
through J. J,'s work of family and connections and
friendships and loyalty, and it pays off because it's
something that every audience member can empathize with, and
it doesn't close it down as being just a Sci-Fi film or
even an action thriller.
It's something that everyone can enjoy
for that very reason.
And I would say that is an aspect that I share with him
and Harrison to a degree, because while his acts may be
incredibly violent and vicious and unremitting, the purpose
behind them, the intention is very pure and based on a moral
drive and a very human passion to fight for the underdog, to
fight for the right and survival of his people, his
tribe, and to make sure that there is an element of balance
being redressed in the powers of the modern, or futuristic
landscape that he's in.
He's a terrorist, and one man's terrorist is another
man's freedom fighter.
And terrorism is often born, not always, but often born out
of a minority struggle for understanding and some kind of
ability to answer, politically, where they're at
with superpowers or what we deem as being democracy being
imposed on them, or despotism, or lack of rule of law.
And desperate times call for desperate measures, and so I
think it's no surprise that in popular culture, there are
lots of bad guys who have motivations that are premised
in terrorism because of that.
It's permeated our popular culture.
We're still making sense of it because it is,
sadly, a modern reality.
FEMALE SPEAKER: Outnumbered.
KIRK: So we come out shooting.
JOHN HARRISON: I am better.
KIRK: At what?
JOHN HARRISON: Everything.
CHRIS HEWETT: Sharon says--
India, Aggie, Annie, and Aurora Luna--
great name-- all want to know, is it more fun playing a
villain than a hero, and was it hard to find
your naughty side?
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: See, this is a bit like the
theater, television, radio, film question.
It's not very easy to give a generic answer because
especially this one, he's complex and he's not, I would
say, just a villain.
That's the whole point of him is you're seeing somebody who
demands a lot of sympathy and respect.
So as far as getting my badass, kickass, action man
stuff on, yeah, that's very enjoyable.
And to try and control and antagonize such
extraordinarily iconic protagonists as Kirk and Spock
was great fun, and wonderful to work that out with Chris
and Zach, who are just fantastic actors and really
good friends as well.
So that was fun.
It was great fun.
And as far as throwing people against walls, and running
through glass, and jump, and still be flying through the
air like you do in a flying dream where your pace gets big
and you suddenly start to take off, that's what's happened
whenever I've had a flying dream.
And to be able to do that in real life with a harness and
wires like a rehearsed stunt rig is just dreamy.
It's amazing.
It's really, really exciting.
And it was an incredible stunt team.
Marcus and Martin De Boer, my incredible stunt double, and I
would work out with Zach's stunt double.
All the time, we'd be fighting and rehearsing these moves,
and changing things that J. J. did like or didn't like, and
accentuating different moves and changing the psychology of
the fights.
And I'm thrilled to sit back in the theater now and watch
that and go, wow.
That's me doing that.
It's something I've always wanted to do, and I was pretty
sure I could have a good go at it, not that I
knew I could do it.
But with those kind of people helping you to do it, you
can't really fail.
I think the results are pretty ferocious.
So yeah.
The short answer is yes.
I enjoy getting my bad on.
JOHN HARRISON: You have no idea what you have done.
I will walk over your cold corpses.
CHRIS HEWETT: From Cumberbatch Collins, what was the funniest
thing that happened on set?
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Oh gosh, there were many.
There was a very big prank played on me which by now is
probably common knowledge to this whole photon cream thing.
Basically, we go to NIF, which is this place that is Sci-Fi.
It actually exists, though, and Ed Moses, who runs it, I
think is the first person I've ever met who has yet to win a
Nobel Prize but will.
And rather like his aims, it's a question of
when, not if, at NIF.
That's my little catch phrase for NIF.
It's called the National Ignition Facility.
It's in Livermore, California, near San Francisco.
And we had to have quite a high level of security
clearance to get onto it to film there.
It was a miracle that we were actually there.
We were in Sci-Fi land as Sci-Fi characters, and the
trade-off between people working in this facility and
us was a beautiful, beautiful thing.
But in amongst all of that, you are in a building which
fires lasers around a chemical plant-sized industrial complex
to a point that is half the breadth of a
human hair of hydrogen.
And the idea is that by fusing hydrogen in that moment, the
only offshot will be water and the most
extraordinary amount of energy.
So it's a pure, unpolluting, and incredibly efficient form
of producing energy when it's going to happen, when it
actually happens, when it will work, which I
do believe it will.
I hope to God it will.
So anyway, that's the context for now me telling you a story
about an actor who's played Stephen Hawking, Oppenheimer,
Joseph Hooker, who's admittedly a botanist, but
still a scientist who's got his brain on as
opposed to his bad on.
And I got completely gulled by Simon Pegg and Chris Pine, who
convinced me, along with the collusion of the entire crew
in quite a creepy way.
It was bit body snatcher-ish.
It was like everyone was doing it.
Is that what's going on?
Photon cream.
So you put photon cream in dots around your face.
You don't even rub it in.
You just put it in dots around your face.
I thought it was something to do with the flows of certain
things, whether it be--
I mean, your temples do conduct an awful lot of your
thermostatic altering of your body temperature.
It's the whole trick of ice cubes on your wrists to cool
you down, and likewise, your forehead.
And I thought, yeah, that makes sense.
Pressure points, they're very integral to
your system's workings.
And also, J. J. had just given me a huge page of dialogue.
I have to set at speed.
I was running through corridors getting a phaser out
and being all action man-y talking a million miles an
hour, not like another character I play.
But it was given to me at eight o'clock in the morning
and I was doing it half an hour later, so I was in a real
world of wow, wow, wow, wow.
And then this photon cream thing was laid on me.
And then also, I was told that you had to shake the neutrons
off as well.
You had to do that to shake the neutrons off.
I'm like, neutrons.
Neutrons are harmless elements of an atom.
I don't really what--
anyway, I'll do it.
And the most burly, crotch grabbing, spittoon spitting,
yee har Americana just got off my horse guy, the most manly
American grip I've met, was like, [INAUDIBLE].
He was like [INAUDIBLE].
But even he, when Tommy Gormley, our first, was going,
OK, everybody, we've got to shake down,
you've got to do it.
Shake the neutrons off.
Shake the protons off.
He was doing it.
Shaking them off, shaking them off.
And Chris is going, I don't feel too good.
I've got a bit of a headache.
And Simon's going, yeah, me too.
I have a stomachache.
Is this really safe?
I don't know.
And then at lunchtime, we were all given this thing to sign.
And that was supposed to the moment by which-- because we'd
done the shakedown and the cream about three or four
times in the morning.
And that was the moment that I supposed to read this
disclaimer and see what it said.
I didn't.
I was so concerned about--
Gormley had his birthday the day before and
he was a bit hungover.
Big day.
Lots of action to get through.
A bit of a tense moment.
I thought, Christ, that guy's getting really angry.
We're suddenly going to get thrown off the set unless we
sign this thing.
I'll just sign it.
And J. J. kept on coming up to me going, and that's
all he could do.
He just literally went.
And then other people would come up to me.
One AD, I turned to him, and I went, my signature's terrible.
Should I put--
I've got to do capital letters for my name.
Do you think that's a good idea?
And he just went, [LAUGHS], and walked away.
I was like, that's charming.
I'm just trying to be helpful.
There's nothing funny about that.
And then later in the afternoon, they finally let it
go when we were near wrap and Simon was given it read out.
I don't know if he did it on purpose, but he did a really
bad job of it.
And J. J. went, give it to the theater actor.
Give it to the Olivier Award winner.
So I picked up and looked at it and went, [CLEARS THROAT],
and did my best, high and proud, puffed cheeked and
chested oratory stance, and announced very loudly that I,
actor in "Star Trek Into Darkness," henceforth known as
the HH Project in the national facility hereafter known as
NIF do hereby say that I am fully aware that neutron cream
is totally useless.
What?
And the whole crew just went, just crying.
I mean, I've never heard laughter like that.
It went on for about five minutes.
And I was standing there just laughing and laughing and
crying, but out of sheer embarrassment and also joy.
It was a very nice moment.
They knew that they could do that to me and I'd take it in
good faith, and it was very much what the
whole thing was about.
CHRIS HEWETT: Fantastic.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: It was great fun.
CHRIS HEWETT: Tell me that's on the DVD.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: I hope it will be.
I think it will.
I've got a sneaky feeling it might be.
I really do.
There are further episodes to that story.
CHRIS HEWETT: Because you and Simon Pegg, Chris Pine, and
Zachary Quinto had a much publicized, or much tweeted
about night out.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Have you got the--
CHRIS HEWETT: I haven't got the pictures, but--
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: But you know them?
Our favorite one was of us, we were remodeled into the
Zoolander Jeep with shakes going.
It was one of those things, those slightly moving kind of
things that they do.
God, the internet is a breeding ground for the most
crazy and inventive stuff, and that was a
moment of enjoying that.
We had a really good night in San Francisco, and it was
hysterically funny.
CHRIS HEWETT: OK, this will be your last question now.
This is a question from the staff at the Google Play--
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Hello, staff at Google Play.
CHRIS HEWETT: Indeed Out of the previous "Star Trek"
movies-- and there are 11, of course--
which is your favorite?
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: The second one's
quite good I hear.
That's quite enjoyable.
It's pretty good, the second film.
I mean, the even numbers thing, definitely.
CHRIS HEWETT: Oh, you subscribe to that theory, the
even numbers [INAUDIBLE]?
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: A little bit, but I enjoy elements of
all of them.
I think they're such different incarnations, Picard and Kirk.
I love what Patrick Stewart did with it.
It was great to see an English bring that kind of
Shakespearean gravitas to what is a very Shakespearean kind
of subject.
And like I've been saying, the Trek universe treats its
character with profound generosity in the same way as
J. J. does in our outing.
CHRIS HEWETT: Even numbered.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Well, yeah.
CHRIS HEWETT: This is movie 12, so the rule continues.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Well, thank you very
much for saying that.
CHRIS HEWETT: There we go.
Well, that's all the time we have.
Benedict Cumberbatch, thanks so much for joining us.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Pleasure.
Thank you.
Hope to see you again.
CHRIS HEWETT: Thank you very much.
And head over to Google Play now to get cracking deals on
your favorite "Star Trek" movies.
Until next time, good bye.
BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH: Bye bye.