Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles (sounds of swords clanging and men grunting) - The following is general advice only, and should not be construed as accounting, legal, or any other professional advice. The details of your situation are fact dependent, and you are biased to seek the help of a competent professional. (rock music) (audience cheering) - Yes, yes, yes, thank you, thank you, thank you. You are all way too kind, I appreciate that. Thank you, thank you. Welcome back to another action packed edition of CPA Reviewed. The official podcast of another71.com, where we make the CPA exam far, far, far, far, far, more exciting than anyone's have ever intended it to be. Happy Tuesday to you. Today is Tuesday, July 30, 2013. Well, normally on the CPA Reviewed podcast, and this is episode 45, and, the only reason I know that is because the previous one was number 44. And, I just thought I'd switch it up, I decided to give people the opportunity, instead of reading emails, when I'm listening to talk radio, and I have some favorite shows that I listen to, it's always more interesting to have people call in and give their take. I don't know, just something different than just listening to the host ramble on. So, instead of reading people's emails, and then answering them, I thought I would have, I would just take live calls. And so, that's what I did. So, in today's podcast, we have three calls that we're going to get to. We have Natasha, Carmela, and Shelly on tap. If you like it, let me know. If you like the new format, you can comment below, or give the post a like, or high five it. Whatever you want to do. Alright, starting up first with Natasha. - I was suppose to call in last week to tell you that I was half-way through, I think... - Okay. - With my Becker videos, I'm actually behind, and I'm only half-way through now, so, that's probably really bad. But I got really stuck with tax history, which is corporate tax, and I felt like I was just watching it over and over and not getting it. I was right in the middle, which I also feel is slowing me down, but I still feel like I have a lot of trouble with corporate tax, I'm just not getting it for some reason. So I don't know if I should just move on and just keep going through, or actually try and understand the material. - So, you're using Ninja, the Wiley test bank in Becker, is that correct? - Yeah. - Okay, and you're going on vacation August 2nd through 12th? - Yeah, so on Friday night I'm leaving at like 10:00, so, yeah, so I was reviewing, watching the videos through Becker. I didn't do any multiple choice questions, except for the class ones that they do in the video. And, in the video, you know, you can do it yourself. You do the questions, so it's probably like 15 questions in each lecture. And I was actually doing really well on those, but, on some of the corporate ones, I wasn't doing as great. So, right now I'm in chapter four, I'm in the middle of chapter four, and there's eight chapters. Which, I'm up to estate taxation. - Okay, so you're half-way through, and you leave Friday? - Yeah, which you told me that I should finish all eight chapters by Friday, so that I can feel rest assured and all that. - Well, when you... An integral part of the learning process is working the multiple choice questions. So, it's normal to watch all the videos and kind of bomb the questions the first time through, because, the videos teach you theory, the questions teach you exam application. So, when you say that you're struggling with corporate tax, what aspect of it are you struggling with? Are you working multiple choice questions? Or, why do you say that you're struggling with the material? - Because I feel that I'm not grasping the different components of the basis. I feel like there's... It's you know, the property basis. That is really confusing for me for some reason. And, I feel like they go over it a lot, and different things, like they go over property basis, and then they do shareholder basis, but I feel like those are really confusing, and I'm not sure how to understand that. - Okay, well in the Ninja notes, there's the various rules, so, the shareholder contributes property to the corporation, that's the shareholder's basis. What's the corporation's basis, et cetera. And so, when you watch the videos, are you taking notes over the rules? - Yeah, but I'm watching the Becker videos and I'm taking the notes. - Okay, I think honestly if you have notes... (cough) Excuse me. Are you reading the Ninja notes before you watch your videos? - No, I was doing that, and then you told me, "Just do the video." 'Cause at first I was doing the Blitz video with the Ninja notes, and then you told me if I have the full course Becker, to just do that. - Sure, yes, and you should, for corporate tax for instances, you should read the Ninja notes over corporate tax, it's maybe 10 pages, or whatever, and then watch your Becker videos. - Yeah. Okay. - That will help, it should help. So you have two days, three days, you have three steady days until you leave. And realistically two, because we know that you're going to pack and everything on Thursday. - Yeah, probably will. - So, can you get through two chapters tonight and two chapters tomorrow? - Yes. 'Cause the last chapter is like four hours for one chapter, and I would say that it probably takes me more than that 'cause I'm writing, so... - Okay, well, so maybe your goal is to do one chapter before you leave. You know, I'm guessing that you didn't study much over the weekend? - No, I didn't study at all over the weekend. - Ah-Ha! Busted! I could tell, I could tell. - Yeah, I should've, I was like, "Okay, I'm gonna make sure I study over the weekend and get through these chapters." And then I didn't, so, I'm still stuck here. But I have my flashcards on my phone. - Well, that's somethin'. Alright, get through one chapter before you leave, and take the Ninja notes with you on your iPad or whatever. - Okay, I have that and I'm gonna hopefully have wi-fi, so every morning I wanted to watch for a half an hour, watch videos and go through the notes, and also read my notes that I wrote, right? That would help? - Now, when you get back on the 13th, there's no more days off, okay? - Okay. (laughter) - Alright, well, thanks Natasha, enjoy your vacation, and call me back when you get back, alright? - Okay, great, thanks so much. - Alright, see ya. Okay, up next is Carmela, and for the life of me, I cannot understand her name, that's my fault, 'cause I am from Kansas. - Hello Jeff. - Hey, good morning. - Hi, it's me, Carmela. - I think you had me... I think you spelled your... Well, have we spoken before? - Yes. - Okay, yeah, and you spelled it... No, that was... No, sorry, that was Euchena. (laughter) How do you spell your name? - C-A-R-M-E-L-A. - Oh, Carmela. - Yes. - See, I just don't pronounce it right. - Ohhhh! - Alright, that's just 'cause I'm from Kansas, I'm from the sticks. I'm from the farm. - Oh, I see. (laughter) - Okay, so you're studying for FAR. You're taking it August 19th? - No, I changed the date. - You changed it. - I changed the date again to August 27th. I gave myself an extra week. - Okay. - I think what I'm doing is I'm just stressing out because of the massive amount of information and I wanna be the best prepared. So, I changed the date from the 19th to the 27th. And, what I've been doing so far is I've been watching the videos in the evening, and I've been taking notes. Also, reading the Ninja materials, because I have the Ninja notes, and everything else, and I have the Wiley test book and the test bank. And I've been noticing since my exam is approaching in the end of the month, I've been focusing on just doing the Wiley test bank questions for now, because I would like to finish that up, and also finish the videos. I'm half-way through the videos. So what do you think my focus should be for the... How much time for review, and then how much time to be focusing for the next two weeks? - Well, okay, essentially your exam is in a month. - Right. - And so, you need to leave two weeks for a review. - Okay. (chime) - Entry and exit chimes are off. - The remainder two weeks, 'cause I notice I spend a lot of time on the Wiley book questions, and, so, what I've been doing now is focusing, just finishing up Wiley test bank questions. Is that a wise thing to do? - Yeah, I think the book and the test bank questions are equally good. I mean, the book questions are just fine when you're in study mode, but the test bank questions, I think, are really good because it's a better representation of what the exam looks like. You've been through all of your videos? - Mm, half-way through, what I've been doing, is, I study, 'cause I'm in between jobs right now, so what I do is I study the multiple choices during the day for five hours, and then in the evening time, I take a break, and then in the evening time, I do the videos. - Okay, now... - I watch either one or two videos a night. - So, you're not following the Ninja plan, then. - Well, I read while I... Well, after I watch the Ninja videos, I read the Ninja notes and take my notes. - Okay, so, are you using a full video course besides the Ninja materials? - Yes. - And what is that? - Oh, I have Rogers CPA. So I watch his videos, and I take notes from, I do two things, I take notes from his study lectures, and I also write your Ninja notes on my flashcards. - Well, when I said that you weren't doing the Ninja method is because you were working the multiple choice questions before you had finished the videos. - No, no, no, for example, I finished Pensions and Stockholders Equity on Saturday with the videos, so, I'm working through those questions this week. - Okay. - That's what I mean. In other words, my old study plan was I was watching the lectures, then doing the questions. I don't do that. - Okay, so... - I try to do as much videos as I can. Last one I did Partnerships, I didn't do the Partnership questions yet. 'Cause I'm still finishing Stockholders Equity. - And then after Stockholders Equity, you're done with the Rogers videos? - I have a few more left, which I want to do two a night. - Okay, get through all of the videos with the stack of notes, and then do the multiple choice questions. - Okay. So don't work through the multiple choice questions throughout the day? - Well, because you're studying full-time, right? - Yes. - So, get through all the videos, all of 'em. And then, take your notes, read your notes, and then start working multiple choice questions. Because... - So, all the videos, and then the notes. - Yeah, because you're bouncing back between videos and questions, and, two things, number one, getting through all of the videos, it's motivational, you cross it off your list, because no one wants to watch videos anyway. And, number two, the questions... So, you watched two topics over video, and then you work those questions, or whatever, you're gonna have to redo all the questions you did early on, you're gonna have to redo anyway, because you don't remember them heading into your exam. So, it's better just to get all the videos out of the way, emerge from the videos with this killer stack of notes, work all of the multiple choice questions in the book, test bank, doesn't matter, in study mode, you're reading the answer explanations, you're taking notes over those multiple choice questions... - Yes. - Then you take this great set of notes you have, and then two weeks out from the exam, you spend an entire week re-writing your notes, and reading them, and putting them into little fact nuggets, as I call them, you're going from long-hand down to short-hand, the bare-essentials. And then you prioritize your areas of weakness your final week, and you're working sets of 20 multiple choice questions over a specific topic. Like your weakest topic might be not-for-profit accounting. And then you work backwards, and that's what you do. - Well, that's what I like about the test bank, because, for example, I was doing the pension questions yesterday, and I was scoring very well, but I was not doing well for the stockholders equity questions. So, the test bank automatically tells me what is my weak areas. - Yeah... - That's what I like about the test bank. Unlike the book, which doesn't tell me that. - Sure, it's perfectly normal to do poorly on your multiple choice questions your first time around. That's why you have to do... You have to work all of 'em. - Right, you have to work all of 'em, and that's why I wanna work all of 'em for the next two weeks as well. I wanna finish up the test bank questions, right, that should be my goal, to finish all the test bank questions. - Well, your goal is to finish all the videos first. - Yes, do the videos first, and then also finish the remaining test bank questions, correct? - Yeah, you could, or you could just start over on the multiple choice questions, start fresh. - You mean, start fresh, or... - Well, have you been taking notes over your multiple choice questions? - Oh yes, of course, all of them, even the ones I get wrong. - Okay, good deal, yeah, finish those, and then start the re-writing process. And then you'll know where you are. - Oh, okay, so the next thing to do the next two weeks is go through all the multiple choice questions again. - Well, it is, yeah. 'Cause, you're kinda doing a hybrid. I would work through the remainder of the test bank questions, and then go through them again. - Right, right. - And I would always do it in study mode, never do it in practice mode, or exam mode. Always do it in study mode. - Always in study mode. - Yeah so that gives you your answer explanation right away. Okay, so your goal in the next week is to finish all videos, and then do the remainder of the multiple choice questions, so, next Tuesday, if we talk again, that's where I want you to be, okay? - So, finish all the videos by next Tuesday? - And do the remain... I mean, depending on how many hours of video... But, since you're studying full-time, you can do it. - Yes, I know, I know I can do it. - And also finish the rest of the multiple choice questions, or get as far as possible. - Okay, alright. I guess my last question, how do I stay motivated? Because part of me thinks I made the wrong decision by studying for FAR, but then part of me is saying that now that I have the time, I think studying for FAR, since it's just a massive amount of information, and just how, remember how to retain everything. And I think what also scares me is probably the Sims as well. - Well, FAR scares everyone. So you're speaking to the fact that you have an exam at the end of August, and you feel pressed for time? - I just feel that I want to be the best prepared. I know I have the time to study it, because, I have the exam, I changed the date to the end of August. I've been studying since July 1st, so, it's just tryin' to stay motivated. Can it be done, is it passable, that's what I'm sayin'. - Oh. - Did I make the right decision? - Oh, yes, you did make the right decision, because, it's best to knock FAR out of the way early, 'cause that's the dreaded one. And, so you want your clock to start after you passed FAR. I actually lost my FAR credit, I actually passed FAR twice. - Ohh, okay. - Yeah, 'cause I got back-to-back 74's on REG, 'cause I didn't want to study for it. (laughter) But, everyone hates FAR, but you know what, it's this huge beast, no one likes it, but yet, just like the other exams, 50% of the people who walk in, pass it. You have a distinct advantage, because, I don't know too many people that have the luxury of being able to study full-time. While it stinks that you were laid off, consider it a gift, this is a huge blessing to you, and so I want you studying minimum eight hours a day. - That's what I've been doing, five hours in the afternoon, like I did with the multiple choice yesterday, and then in the evening time, I watched the videos, evening time, videos. I take a break a little bit, 'cause you gotta exercise, get your mind rested, 'cause I notice that if I study too long, my mind starts to wander. - Yeah, yeah. - And I found that for the Bar Exam, when I study too long, my mind wanders, I'm not retaining the information. So I need a break for a few hours. - So, you also took the Bar Exam? - Yeah, I'm an attorney. - I didn't know that. - Yes. (laughter) - Well, there's people on the forum that are asking should I take the Bar Exam after the CPA exam, maybe you could persuade them one way or the other. (laughter) - I would say take the Bar Exam first, and then the CPA. You just got out of school, so you know the information. - You've already been through law school, so... If you were a CPA today, would you quit your job and go back to law school? - Probably not, probably not. I think I would've became a CPA first. - But if you had your CPA designation, would you try to add to your credentials by going to law school? - I would do that too, yes. - You would? - I would do that, yes. - You feel like the return on your investment is worth it, and the opportunity cost, and lost wages, and all that, you feel like... - If you go at night, you can go at night too. - Go at night? - Yes. - Okay Well, cool, you might want to look at the forum, or email me, I could send you some links, 'cause you're the first person I've spoken with that's taken the Bar Exam, and is taking the CPA exam, so you are a unique asset, Carmela. - Unique asset? - So okay, next week, if we talk, I want you to have all of your videos done, alright? - Alright, I will get those done. - Alright, thanks Carmela. - Thanks, bye. - Okay, final caller today is Shelly. - Taking the BEC on the 12th, and this is the first time I've used the flashcards, and the audio, and the whole Ninja package, and I like it, by the way. The audio, I've been listening to it so much that I almost have it memorized. - Oh, that's cool. - Everybody in my family hates me. (laughter) - I've gotten that before. - But what I'm doing is I had Becker left, I took the first test 18 months ago. Failed it miserably, I wasn't ready for it, I had an emergency in the family and shouldn't have taken it. But, now I followed your advice and I did the whole Becker, every single lecture, and as of today, I'll probably be through every single multiple choice homework question in the Becker package once. And what I've been doin' is printing to a PDF the questions I get wrong and don't understand. And so, I'm going to print those out today, but, I read your notes five times, I've listened to your audio, and, now I'm getting concerned because the audio makes sense, then I get into the homework questions, and some of them just blow my mind, especially with cost accounting. - Well, that's normal, I mean, an integral part of the learning process for the CPA exam is taking the concepts and going in and working through the applications. Especially cost accounting, the only way to learn cost accounting is really to work the questions. I mean, yeah, to understand the concepts, but, to work the questions and so, that's normal. So you have essentially two weeks? - Yeah, so, this is my thought from here on out, today I'm gonna finish the questions, the homework questions. I haven't done any final exams, or any practice test to see where I am, but I was gonna finish all the questions today, go back, print out the ones I got wrong and don't understand, and start re-writing the notes. Like, take those questions, and start re-writing your notes tomorrow, and adding formulas, and things that I need to add to understand it, and then go through and start working them again. - Yup. - I don't know if I'm on the right track or not, but it seems like there's almost no other way. - Yeah, that's a good plan, re-writing your notes, and then going back through the questions. I would not work a practice exam. - Oh, no? - Well, essentially, how long is a practice exam? Three and a half hours? - Yeah. - So, when you finish the practice exam, what is it really tell you? - Not much, probably. - Yeah, it might tell you, "I scored a 70%." Or 75%. But, no one knows what score that translates to on the exam. So usually people, when they take practice exams, they either have a false hope, or they're unnecessarily bummed out. Their confidence is shot because the practice exams don't use the same scoring algorithm as the real exam, and so that's three and a half, four hours of time that you could've spent just nailing cost accounting, or two sessions in study mode. - Right, I could just, yeah, go over the multiple choice, is that what you're talking about? - Yeah, yeah. - Or just keep going and going and going. Or memorize formulas, or whatever. So it's a waste of time? Okay, good, 'cause that was on my future planning in the next two weeks. And I was actually thinking the same thing, "Damn, that's three and a half hours." It's harder to schedule that, I can't do an hour in the morning, and hour at lunch, with that, but I sure can if I'm nailing homework questions, and stuff like that. - Yeah, always work your questions in study mode. - What do you mean by that? - So that it always gives you the... Well, I don't know if Becker software does this, but in the Wiley test bank, you can select between study mode and exam mode. In exam mode, if you do a set of 20, it doesn't give you your answers until the end. In study mode, it gives you the answer right away, and your answer explanation right away. - Yeah, that's what the homework questions are in Becker, by the way, that's how they work, but I'm gonna do something different, I have the Wiley test bank for REG, which I failed three times, by the way, and now I have your stuff. Yeah, I'm not gonna beat myself up over it, I haven't studied the right way, I don't think. I have a higher confidence level now, really, honestly, thanks to the Ninja notes, and stuff like that, so, I'm pretty, I feel pretty good. Well, good, sounds like I'm on the right track then. - Yes, yes. So you're two weeks out, so the next week, re-writing your notes, studying your notes, working some multiple choice questions, and then, your final week, going over doing topic intensive multiple choice sets. So, do a set of 20 over cost accounting 'til you're scoring like 70-75%. And then move on to the next topic. The whole time, you're still reading the Ninja notes, you're still reading your notes, you're still listening to the audio, and just kind of crescendos for exam day. - Okay, that's what I'm gonna do, I'll continue doin' it. - My top secret BEC tips, don't tell anyone... - Okay, (laughs) it's our secret. - It's our secret. The afternoon before your exam, work every IT question. - Oh, you're kidding. You mean, okay, I'm taking mine Monday at 4:00 pm, you're saying Sunday work every IT question. - Yup. - Or the day of? - Sunday afternoon, so, let's say there's 130 IT questions in Diper, whatever it is, 100, 130, something like that. Work every IT question the afternoon before your exam. - You're kidding. And don't do it, I don't have to waste any time doing it between now and then? - No, sorry, you should still do it in the meantime, but one last time, work every IT question, I think on exam day, you'll be happy you did. - Really? Is it IT heavy? - This is your first time taking BEC? - Well, like I said, I took it before, and I might as well just flush that down the toilet, because I was in a personal emergency situation. - Oh yeah, IT, I'm not sure what it is, it's probably 15% of your exam, based on the CSO. Something like that, but, IT is the one area that they throw these arbitrary definitions at you. Stuff that no one cares about, you'll never see again. But it's stuff that you have to know. So it's not stuff that you deal with on a daily basis. Some of it, I'm not even sure is still relevant. But, yet you still have to go through the exam, and so what you do the afternoon before the exam is you cram it into your head. - Okay, what about day of exam, what do you think? - Well, I'm a huge proponent of day of exam, you just go for it, you're still reading your notes, you're still... - Yeah. - What would you say is your weakest topic, the topic you just pray you don't see too much of on exam day? - I would say the cost accounting piece. - Okay, let's say it's something more obscure, like... - I'll give you one, strategic planning, and some of the planning techniques that I'm working on right now are sometimes a nightmare. You know, you have to have 20% of next month's stock, and next month's production, yada yada. - So let's say that you know that you're not gonna learn strategic planning, and you just hope you don't see it on exam day, so, the day of your exam, just cram it into your head so that you can just go into the exam and any accrued knowledge, you just barf it out. And then that's it. - Okay, I had no... I'd seen the schools of thought on don't study, well, I think that's B.S., because I kinda have to, also, do you suggest that, going right in, and as soon as I sit down, try to write some formulas down? - Yes, but, I think you have like 10 minutes once you... I'm not sure if it's once you enter your launch code, or whatever, but people have been walked out, and so, yeah, spend a few minutes to write down some mnemonics, but other than that, I would just go. - Just go for it. If there's something that I think that I really can't remember, I'll just jot it down real fast and then start. - Yeah, so your appointment is at 4:00, did you say? - Yeah, yes, yes. - So, when I was taking the exam, they want you showin' up 30 minutes early, I would walk in five minutes 'til 4:00, 'cause I was sitting out in the parking lot for those 30 minutes, again, just cramming as much info in my head as possible. - Okay, yeah, I don't know why they need you there that early, I got there early last time I took REG, and tried to cram, but it was distracting. People coming and going, and if you're there, they want you to sit early. - They want to get you rockin' and rollin' as fast as possible. - Yeah, so then it's distracting, and you just kinda lose track. One more thing, I'm concerned about the simulations because I haven't really allocated a lot of time to those, and I'm not sure what kind of approach you would recommend on those. - Are you talkin' about the written communications? - Yes. - Well, they're just essays, memos, and so they'll say, "Joe, corporate controller wants to know the impact of total revenue when a good is price inelastic in an environment of rising costs, rising prices." And so you have to think, "Okay, what do I know about price elasticity of demand." And so, you have your thesis, you have your two or three supporting paragraphs, and then your conclusion. - Right. - Now if you can't, for the life of you, remember the price elasticity of demand, well then you need to throw in some buzz words, and you need to, as you said, B.S. your way through it. Make it sound like you know what you're talkin' about, because I'm pretty sure it's a computer grading you, and so try and sound smart, use proper grammar, and use keywords. - Okay, okay, and watch my spelling, and all that stuff, 'cause that will probably spit right out of a computer. - Yeah. - Okay, okay, that sounds good. Now, is this a call that you're having, can you just call in and listen, or what? - Right now... - Is that how that works? - Right now you're the only one on the line because people call in when they can 'cause of their work, or whatever. When I open it up to the public, there will probably be more people on here. But you can just hang on the line if you want to. - And then, okay, well, maybe I will just call back. When are you opening it up? - I'm also going to rebroadcast it, so you can listen to it later if you want to do that. - Okay, yeah, I'll do that, that's what I'll do. 'Cause then I can drive down to right where I, you know, BEC questions and stuff, so I can focus on that. - Okay, well perfect, Shelly, it's been great talkin' with you. - Thank you, you too. - Alright, well, take care. - I'll stay in touch, thanks so much, bye-bye. - Thank you so much, bye. Well, everyone, that does it for this edition of CPA Reviewed. I hope you like the new format, if so, let me know. I look forward to talkin' to you the next time I fire up the digi-hotline. In the meantime, you can go to another71.com. Click in the upper right-hand corner, ask Jeff, and as always, you can see me on the forum, or at Facebook. Facebook.com/another71, we just passed 24,000 likes, that's pretty cool. Okay everyone, be good, be safe, take care, and I will talk to you soon. (rock music)`
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