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  • Orion Network Films LLP

  • In Association with PositiveTV

  • Directed by Mark Waters

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  • The Zeitgeist Movement

  • My name is Peter Joseph.

  • I am currently the de facto founder of an organization called The Zeitgeist Movement

  • which is seeking to alter the current cultural climate, if you will

  • into something that can be considered as actually sustainable

  • for not just one nation or class but all the world's people.

  • The Zeitgeist Movement

  • We live in a paradigm, now, where we have society operating

  • on the idea that we can grow infinitely.

  • Therefore, we keep buying and consuming regardless of how many resources we have.

  • This creates a collision course with nature, which the world is figuring out right about now

  • on many levels, that the Earth is essentialy a closed system.

  • It took billions of years to create the minerals we have.

  • It took many, many hundreds of millions of years

  • to create the fossil fuels which govern everything we have.

  • And, amazingly enough, we've created this system

  • where we're using all of our resources

  • to create the economic growth required to sustain employment and everything else.

  • And simultaneously, we're diminishing our resources at a near exponential rate

  • it seems, as population continues to grow

  • and no one seems to understand that it's an absolute clash

  • and that eventually we're going to run out of pivotal resources

  • and eventually you're going to see things, I don't know,

  • like the human population start to dwindle down.

  • -My name is Jacque Fresco

  • and I'm going to present the concepts of The Venus Project.

  • The Venus Project

  • If you don't want war

  • if you don't want poverty

  • hunger

  • unemployment

  • you have to declare all the Earth's resources

  • as the common heritage of all the world's people.

  • All the artificial boundaries have to be removed

  • so that people can travel anywhere.

  • It has to be a global society.

  • There are many people that feel "Well, let's develop each country."

  • You can't do that because if the Russians do experiments with nuclear materials

  • and the Chinese, that air goes all over the world.

  • So it's very hard to work independently.

  • So, I would say, if you want these things

  • you have to change the way your society operates.

  • We believe, here at The Venus Project, we are not civilized yet.

  • As long as you have armies, navies, prisions, police, we are not civilized.

  • No nation is civilized.

  • Being civilized is an ongoing process.

  • The more we learn, the more we know about the environment and human relations

  • the more we're able to deal with the problems.

  • If we fail to do that, we won't be able to solve problems.

  • If we go with traditional values, we won't be able to solve problems.

  • All of these pump-primers do not work.

  • There's always been wars. The wars have continued to get worse

  • even though the universities today have the most sophisticated equipment

  • in the science labs, the architectural labs, all the labs

  • and the wars are getting worse. Explosions are getting worse.

  • Since the atom bomb, the explosive power is much worse.

  • So, there's something definitely wrong with all cultures.

  • When I say wrong, I mean that the system doesn't work.

  • Now, to talk about a system that does work is a little foreign to our habits of thought.

  • I'm going to try to explain how we make decisions.

  • Actually, we don't make decisions.

  • We arrive at them.

  • -The only way a real society can operate, period, is in a steady-state economy

  • meaning you don't have the mechanism of constantly needing to do anything

  • other than being sustainable in your every day living

  • and having society recognize the attributes of sustainability which are required.

  • That's the value-system orientation needed to create a stable society.

  • As a brief extension of this, we live in a materialistic culture.

  • We live in a culture that's predicated on inferiority

  • and people thinking that they need more and more and more because of many reasons

  • because of someone else having more, status-oriented issues, so on and so forth.

  • And that fuels into this mechanism of the growth economy

  • of getting more and more. Holidays...

  • People give each other gifts. These are inventions for economics.

  • -As long as we use money and the bottom line is profit

  • then those who control the money are able to make the laws in their favor.

  • And that means that they really don't care about people.

  • They care about wealth, property and power when that is the main incentive.

  • So, when we use the monetary system, there is no justice within this system.

  • There's no making this system equitable.

  • What we need is an entirely new system that we call a Resource- Based Economy.

  • Resource-Based Economy

  • -In regard to social operation and how to create a new society

  • or better yet just to say to create any society that would be sustainable and efficient

  • there's really an empirical train of thought, if you will, on how to do that.

  • First of all, you have to think about what the human being actually needs.

  • We require resources at the bare minimum.

  • We require food, water, etc, as we all know.

  • Therefore, resources become the most paramount subject.

  • Resources in fact should be the foundation of any economic structure.

  • So, what do you do? If you consider that the Earth is a closed finite system.

  • -First thing you have to do is a survey of the Earth's resources

  • and the carrying capacity of the environment.

  • If you produce a population far in excess of the carrying capacity of the environment

  • you're going to have trouble.

  • You're going to have malnutrition and all the problems that go with it.

  • So, first we have to find out what can each successive environment carry

  • and maintain a population in accordance with the carrying capacity of the Earth.

  • Not what I like or somebody else likes or some politician notions.

  • It has to be based upon the carrying capacity of the Earth.

  • -To organize a structure based on the intelligent management of the Earth resources

  • you start from, essentially, the base level of where is everything.

  • So, you look at the planet and you say

  • "Ok, we see we have iron ore here. We have petroleum deposits here,"

  • if we're using petroleum at that point in time

  • in the future. Hopefully we will not be because it's damaging.

  • "We have places for great wind energy here." You get the point.

  • We can assess the entire environment of what we currently use

  • based on our technological facilities at that point

  • and we start to create a structure of analysis, maintenance and management

  • and basically monitor and understand what we have.

  • -Then we can design the parameters for the new society.

  • Without a survey we couldn't do that.

  • Survey means physical disabilities, all the known diseases.

  • That tells us how many hospitals we have to build.

  • Of course, the survey would include available materials.

  • Otherwise, if you just sit down and turn out a hospital or turn out a social plan

  • not based on what you have

  • not based on what Fresco believes, only statistical evidence.

  • The end of "What's your opinion? What's your opinion?"

  • should have been gone in 1927.

  • -Then you move to the next level. How do we utilize resources in the most efficient way?

  • Technology is the methodology to harness any type of resources we have.

  • Technology is the growing intellectual field that allows us to know

  • how to manipulate our environment for our betterment

  • and to be more sustainable, hopefully.

  • So what we do is we utilize our technical information

  • and then we analyze the planetary resources.

  • Then we build from the ground up an entire infrastructure

  • not based on the whims of any type of ideology, capitalist, socialist, fascist

  • whatever, what have you, communist.

  • You do it based explicitly on the most efficient means to do it

  • with the most peak efficiency possible based on the technology available at the time

  • the intellectual resource of the time.

  • You have peak efficiency and sustainability as your goal.

  • You just simply weigh all parameters when you analyze anything

  • and then you're going to build a society that is, essentially

  • for lack of a better expression, perfect.

  • It's not perfect at all because it's going to constantly change

  • but it's the best you can do at that point in time

  • which I think would be a variance of perfection.

  • A Resource-Based Economy does not use money, barter or any form of servitude.

  • It just makes goods and services available to everybody

  • through intelligent use of technology.

  • Creative Director / Cinematographer / Director: Mark Waters

  • Producer: Frank Da Silva

  • Executive Producers: Dana Amma Day, Nicholas Pilbrow

  • Production Assistant: Simon G. Powell

  • Storyboard Artist: Alexander Ward

  • An Earth 2 Production for Orion Network Films LLP

  • In Association with Positive TV and JustLivinFilm

  • Filmed on Location: Venus, Florida / New York City, NY

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