the great depression in 1929 and came out of it thinking that there was still goods

in store windows, things in ca..cars in car lots but people just didn't have the money

to buy things. So he realized it was the rules of the game that we play by that were so screwed

up... and from when he was very young, he set out to find an alternative social design

to take care of the problems that we have today. This is what's very different between

Jacque and other protestors and people who..who understand that the system is not working

but they do not pose an alternative. I don't know of anyone else who tries to find the

root causes of the problems and understands that things cannot be fixed within the monetary

system and the system that we live by today. So, Jacque has worked.. He's 95 years old.

He's worked since he was very young to..working with people: drug addicts, alcoholics.. changing

them, joining the Klu Klux Klan and changing them. Putting his educational processes to

test.. and understanding if he needs to change the world, he needs to be able to change peoples

values as well. So, he's arrived at a totally new social design and he backs it up technically!

These are not just words that he's talk about. If you go to our website: "THEVENUSPROJECT.COM"

You'll see what this..this new world civilization, this sustainable future would look like. Jacque

Fresco: So I see, eventually, whether The Venus Project gets off the ground or not,

this is what I see: I see machines displacing people... and if you displace people in the

automotive industry, where the machine picks up the car, puts the wheels on.. you're displacing

millions of people. You don't need air conditioning. You don't need to pay em' for vacations. You

don't need to take out insurance on their health.. and you don't need all the lights

you need with people working there. So, industry will put in machines, wherever they can..

but here's the downfall: If you keep doing that all over the country, people will not

have the money to buy vacuum cleaners, electric fans, or refrigerators. If you displace most

people by machines, "How are they gonna buy things?" So, it's a self-contradictory system...

and THIS is the basis of understanding: That politics was good 100 years ago but it's obsolete

today. Everything that you have in your own, those of you that have a home... Your television

set, your washing machine, your refrigerator, your electric lights are all technical! There's

nothing political about that. It's all technical. If you took away the technology today, you'd

have people pulling boats along the river. Do you understand that? It's technology that

frees you from things. It's electric air-conditioning that makes your house tolerable. So, we don't

want to put the technicians in control anymore than they're in control today. All the technicians

do is build bridges if you're a bridge designer. If you're an air plane designer, you can work

on air plane designing but you don't tell people what to do. It isn't that technicians

will rule the world. I'm against that! I'm against scientist ruling the world! I don't

see any real scientist protesting against the exploitation of young kids when they work

in factories. We use to hire children that were 12 years old and put them in factories

and work em' saturday and sunday. It's when people march to free those kids from those

conditions. "Why do women have to fight for women rights?" "Why did women have to march

years ago for a public library?" I don't know why JUST women did but they did march and

they wanted a public library so if people couldn't afford books, they could have access

to books. Then there's the metaphysician who really believes that everybody has goodness

within themselves. They really don't have anything within themselves. If you were brought

up in Nazi Germany as a baby, after Hitler burned most the books, you'd be a Nazi. If

you're brought up in Australia, you'd say, "How are ya' mate?!" That would be normal

to the way you speak. If you're brought up in Germany, "Deutschland Ÿber alles!"..Germany

above all. If you're brought up that way. So you musn't hate anybody because their all

brought up. "What are American soldiers?" They are killing machines. They're not taught

anything..anything else. If I had anything to do with it, I would take ALL the soldiers,

send em' back to the university to become problem solvers. We have allot of problems

that aren't solved... and that's what we need. Problem solvers! For every Edison we found,

imagine all the Edison's we never found. I don't say Edison was good either. He was a

crook also. Crowd Question: "Don't scientist usually rely on statistics to make a decision?

It seems, uh, usually, its, you know, statistical analysis and then they draw a conclusion from

that and then, you know, as science evolves and as we make new sciences, we will again

have like better kinds of statistics or whatever and then we'll apply those to the new technology

that we develop. So how do we develop a language that's not subject to interpretation.. or

statistical interpretation?!" Jacque Fresco: "Scientist today are commercially rewarded

for being chemist or working for the drug companies or working for the aircraft companies.

They're just as corrupt as anyone else... and scientist, if they were scientist, they'd

say, "What makes war? Why are we going to war with Germany? What's the problem? What

makes a man the way they are?" They wouldn't stay in their field. Today their chemist.

They're scientific in chemistry. Then there's structural engineers that are scientific in

structures... but they're not scientific in human relation. They know nothing about it

or little about human behavior. So, I'm saying there's no such thing as a scientist, YET!

Otherwise, they'd be out here in the protest. Do you understand? I'm not talking about a

world managed by scientist... but a world managed by scientific method! That means first

you do a survey of Texas, "How much air able land do you have?" "How much water do you

have underground?" After you do that survey, you can estimate how big a city can be built

in that region. If it doesn't have the resources, it won't work. If you have a population far

above 7 billion, there will not be enough food to go around and there's gonna be territorial

disputes. Territorial disputes are not made by bad people or fascists or communists or

socialists free enterprises. They're made by social conditions called, "The March of

Events". In other words, if a meteor were coming toward the Earth, I can assure you

that all nations would stop their armies and navies and share ideas with one another to

try to divert that meteor away from the Earth. Not because they're good but because they're

all threatened. All nations will join together on any common threat if they realize it. Crowd

Question: "I'm a mother of 7 children. Which of my 5 children should not be here so that

way it would reduce the population of the Earth?!" Jacque Fresco: "Well, all i can say,

if you want a world without war, without hunger, without poverty, it has to be in accordance

with the carrying capacity of the Earth's resources. If you go beyond that, you're going

to have trouble. Do you understand what I'm saying? Crowd Question: "It seems to me what

you're saying is, that you want fewer people but who are you to designate who the people

that should and should not be here?!" Roxanne: No, he's not saying that at all. Crowd Question:

"I'm asking for clarification!" Roxanne: You'd have to listen to know more about the system.

What he's proposing is a system based on the methods of science to..to produce abundance

for everyone in the quickest time..without polluting the earth. He's talking about a

system based on..on the well-being of people AND the environment. He's talking about a

system that does not use money. As long as you use money, you'll have corruption, greed,

crime, embezzlement. So he's trying to get rid of the root causes of the problem. We

have enough have goods and resources to take care of the entire population and even more

if we use it wisely... but what we're doing today, we're doing mass killings by starvation...

and we're against that. We're saying we have enough resources if we use science and technology

to the best of our ability without the monetary system to feed, house, and clothe everyone

on earth. We can do that today. That's what he's talking about. Jacque: "I'm not against

you. Sometimes a person comes up to me and he says, "I have 10 children." and then I

say, "What are they for?" "What are they for?" Just having children is not wisdom! No, I

don't believe in depopulation, I believe in educating the public. "Why don't you put 10,000

people on the boat?" Cause it'll sink! The displacement of the boat determines how many

people you can put on it, not Fresco... and if you wanna take a..take 400 people and put

em' in a spaceship, it won't get off the ground. You have to figure what the thrust is. How

much thrust you can develop in a spaceship... and when the government came up to scientist

and said, "Can you put a man on the Moon?", the first thing they said was, "I don't know."

So i'm saying there is other ways of thinking about things but you need help. When a man

takes his belt off and whips his kids, "Is he bad?" No! He doesn't know any other way

to get to them. He says, "Do what your Daddy says!" The kid doesn't so he whips him because

his Daddy whipped him. He doesn't know! Now protesting the stock exchange will not change

anything! I hate to tell you this. I wish it did. I'm gonna try to tell you what we

have to do. To live in a world without war, without poverty, without hunger and without

most crimes... all criminals are made by this society, by the monetary system and scarcity

and burdens that are too big for the average person to handle. There will be no armies,

no navies, no prisons, and no police in a Resource-Based Economy. Whyyy? Because it's

just like the public library. You can access any book you want to. Next door to the public

library, we have a camera center, where anybody in the community, a 7-year old kid can walk

in and say, "I've come to check-out a camera." Free! No fee involved. Do you understand that?

Just like the public library. Next door to that you'd have musical instruments, where

anybody, like the public library, can check out any musical instruments. The Venus Project

is sharing all the world's resources with all the world's people. A Resource-Based Economy

is using resources rather than money. Making all things available to all people... and

if you don't do that, you'll have wars, robbery, crimes of all kinds. Even every criminal is

made by this culture. Once you make things available, that's the end of crime. Do you

understand that? Not say, "Don't steal!" As long as you understand that people are made

that way. When you're brought up in Australia, you say, "I'm Australian and i'm proud of

it." "I'm a Greek and i'm proud of it." That divides people. If you divide people, you

can conquer them. So what the politicians say is things the public likes to hear. Scientists,

not all them, some of them. When they discovered that the Earth is round, they don't say to

the public, "It's a little round and a little flat." So they get along with everybody. No.

They say, "You're wrong. It's not flat. Here's the evidence we have to show that it's round."....

and what you have to do is change people. Roxanne: "We built everything ourselves. Put

in all the windows. Instill the doors. We Built over 400 models of the future. We didn't

have any outside capital to do that. I did..had a full-time job in order to support that.

I put all the money towards that. We've put all the money that we've made in The Venus

Project towards that as well. If anybody knows us, we work 7 days a week on...on promoting

this direction. So we do have a non-profit organization now. We are collecting donations

for a major motion picture that we want to do to show what a re..what life in a Resource-Based

Economy would be like. And we live in a monetary system. Because we are working towards a Resource-Based

Economy the coun..county does not say, "You're doing a great job. You don't have to pay taxes.

You don't have to pay your electric bill. So.." Crowd Comment: "THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING

THAT!"