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Hello lovely learnids! Welcome back to A
Life learned! Just wanted to share with
you guys the really nifty, and
unexpectedly cool experience of having
gone to the, um, consultation sessions for
the pilot project that they're planning
for Basic Income here in Ontario. Um, if you
guys aren't familiar with Basic Income, I
will link up here the video that I
talked about the different contrasting
approaches to it. Um, there's a lot of different
videos on YouTube that will give a very
easy, brief explanation of it, but the
general idea is a basic amount of money
for people who earn a lower than, uh,
certain amount, or who don't earn at all,
um, to reduce poverty. And uh, the idea is to bring
the current welfare programs, um, Ontario
Disability and Ontario Works or Ontario
Welfare together into one all-around
program that applies to a lot more
people. Um, I came to learn that this was
actually the 14th of 14 consultation, so it
was the last one; and, um, it was really
nicely set up! I was quite surprised to
see how everything was all laid out, and
there was tables, and tons of people there;
they had food and water, and um, a whole thing
set up, that I just, I really didn't know what to
expect, to be honest. Um, but ya, it was, it was very
professional, and it wasn't crowded or anything like that
And um, they had a very specific structure,
they laid out all kinds of information
on the table for everyone, including um, the
main questions that they were addressing;
and also discussing, um, just basic
information about, um, the different current
programs that exist. They also had a
really big informative booklet about,
um, Basic Income, (and uh, oh seems I got two of
those), and then they also provide an
evaluation, just for how we felt the
evening went. And um, overall I think it, it was
pretty good. I would have preferred a
little bit more opportunity for personal
input, um, in terms of like, uh, personal
experiences and how they contribute to how this might
benefit society. But overall there was a
pretty good opportunities for that because
at the end they did, um, actually
hand the mic around and have people, able,
allowed people the opportunity to ask
questions, or to offer opinions,
experiences, etc. Um, but at the beginning
they basically started it with a group
activity. They had everyone at separate
tables, um, and we were to introduce
ourselves, pick a writer, and pick a
speaker, and then, um, discuss the topic
that was on a big pamphlet paper on the
center of the table; and each table would
focus on one topic, and then if we wanted
to, we could move on to other topics
after that; and after a set amount of
time everyone, uh, stopped and they had one
person, (the speaker), from each table
presents the three basic ideas, or
answers to the big question, uh, or the main
question that each table was given; and
then after that was, as I mentioned, an
open discussion where we could ask
questions, or offer experiences. Uh, they
ultimately say that this is, um, after
tonight they have, apparently, two weeks
to get together all of the, (or maybe it was get one
week? A very short amount of time
anyways), to get together all of the
information that they're gathering from
everyone, and to, uh, basically summarize it
into a transcript to offer to the
Ontario government as information for
what they should do, or how they should
try to implement it,
um, so that it can all be designed for
April, and uh, implemented shortly after that, (though
they haven't set a specific day on
implementation). Um, there was a lot of
repeated comments, a lot of people had
the same things to say, (which, I mean, is
good! That means we have a concensus on
certain things that should be addressed
And it was really cool that as the mic was
being, uh, handed around people seem to have
answers to other people questions, um, with
regard to how certain things could be
handled. And I sat there for a good five
minutes, like shaking, and just being like,
'uh, I don't know, maybe I should speak, maybe
I shouldn't?'. I sorta, I went intending to speak, but
I was nervous, I was scared, and I wasn't
sure if it, if I really, it was appropriate to
go- to speak about what I had originally
intended, (which was, um, how my personal
experience is very much related to my
poverty; um, my abuse is related to my poverty, and
a lot of it wouldn't have happened if I
wasn't impoverished). Um, and that wasn't
really, entirely relevant, but I did, I did
end up putting up my hand; I worked the
courage up. Um, when I was done I was
literally shaking like this; like you could
here me shaking as I was speaking; my voice
was shaking. It was pretty, hmm, but the people
at my table said I didn't do too bad, and
the main points that I brought up are
that there are already currently um,
intercommunity centers that can be used as
addresses for the homeless, so that the
homeless can be included within the
Basic Income program, (which is huge, because
they're the biggest faction of poverty that
are not helped through our current systems).
Um, I also addressed that, Aidan and I
agreed, (um, by the way, my friend Aidan came with
me - super awesome of him! I really
appreciated the support, and the help; and he
just has a lot of good things to add to the
conversation), um, and uh, we agreed that it
should be done on an individual basis, uh, or
determined on an individual- a person's
individual situation, instead of uh, as
couples or families per se, (um, children
aside, of course), because, uh, this allows a
lot more freedom for situations of
domestic abuse; particularly like my
situation, where I was in the situation as
long as I was, in a lot of senses, due to
financial dependence; and a lot of people
are in that situation when it comes to
spouses, and family members, and a lot of
different things. And uh, domestic abuse
doesn't really seem to be a thing considered very
often for Basic Income, so put in that
point as well. And then it was brought up
just before I spoke, uh, people being
concerned about all the jobs that might
be lost as they're trying to reduce the
administrative costs, basically of social
assistance, by introducing this Basic Income
program. And uh, with that, um, Aidan and I had
come up with a pretty decent counter, I
feel, that it seems reasonable to handle
that, is to offer subsidized education or
training for anyone who is within those
sectors of jobs that are being taken away
um, so that they can reapply thier skills
elsewhere. It is also very possible that
they can just be relocated, their skills
can be reapplied elsewhere without any
more training, (and by all means, if that's possible,
do that first!), but if training and
education is necessary in order to apply
themselves in a different area of the
community, allowing that- them that
opportunity would reduce the burden of
the fact that they've lost their job, and allow
them to continue contributing to society
and earning an income without- with it
having purpose, instead of just being an
income, for the sake of an income
Um, why not get rid of jobs that aren't
contributing to society, and help people
re-designate their labour and their efforts
towards things that will contribute to
society? In terms of progress, it really only
seems to make sense. So that's what I put forward, and I
was shakin the whole time; it was scary! Um, but
uh, after that they basically wrapped it up and
summarize that, um, they were, uh, taking notes of
everything that was being said at that
time, (uh, like ladies were transcripting in the
corner), and um, they took all of the, um, big
question paper, and we have this thing
called a- I think they called it a 'parking lot',
(uh, just like, this blank page to put notes
on that didn't really fit in other
places); and they took all of that to also
refer to. And in the end they basically said
that they were going to release, um,
a transcript of everything that happened,
and that would be then used to determine
what they're going to do with the pilot
I actually spoke with, um, one of the main
people that was, uh, organizing, or running
things at the front, and he said that,
um, uh, people had actually address a number
of questions that hadn't been answered,
and the government doesn't actually know
the answer to; and that's part of why
they were doing this consultation, was to
try and, (excuse me), get that kind of
information from people. So ultimately, I
feel pretty positive about it; pretty okay. I-it,
um, it was educational; I mean, I I knew a
lot about Basic Income, but uh, it allowed me
to hear some peoples different ideas on
it; it allowed me to hear, um, some peoples
understandings of different government
um... What do you say? Regulations or things
that could be changed, (like, I'm not very
familiar with the taxation system, and
some people were; and they were
suggesting, um, uh, sources to get the income from)
So I learned a lot. I also, um, had been- Aidan had
convinced me that negative income tax might
be the better choice, just out of cost
and implementation, because he said it
didn't make sense, uh, or it would be very
costly to have people- giving, to be
giving people, um, of large incomes amounts
that they would literally have to just
get right back to the government; because
there would be administration within
that, that would just create money to have to
be spent, that wouldn't otherwise be
necessary. But, um, a couple of really cool guys, um,
(Noah and Eric), sat down at our table with
us, and Eric had a very good point, (a lot
of rather good points), about the fact
that just the, uh, broadness and universality
of Universal Basic Income, (instead of
negative income tax), would reduce the
administrative cost immensely,
to the point that it would eat up
whatever costs are created by giving,
um, the higher income people money that they
would just have to get back at tax time;
because we already have a setup tax
system, where that basically already
happens, and if people- in the negative
income tax situation, people have to
report their income at some various
different points, in order for that to
work, because it's based off of your
income. So you're- there's still reporting, whereas
with the Universal Basic Income, there's,
there's no reporting, no-nothing
beyond what's already done at tax time.
So it just literally gets rid of an,
an excessive amounts of administration, and
doesn't really add any. Um, so, yay Eric! Thanks
so much for helping me get back on the
universal page, and, and that's where I
definitely sit right now; and I really hope
that's how they intend to apply the
pilot, but I don't know. We will see,
um, what they plan, as of April! In the
meantime, I am ultimately feeling very
positive about how the consultation went
Wasn't what I expected at all, but it was
very educational, and uh, an awesome learning
experience! And a little bit of a speaking
experience, because I did, uh, speak for a
few minutes, (although I was shaking
like a little scared mouse the whole
time, but I tried which is what matters!)
And I got my good friend to come with me,
which really helped in the whole getting
out and doing something that causes me
extreme anxiety thing *laugh*
So it was a positive for my mental health too,
but overall, um, yeah, it, it went well; um,
and I'm, I'm hoping to see in April that,
uh, they took everything into consideration,
and didn't just pigeonhole certain ideas,
(because you never really know how
they're going to take the information in
the end). Um, but yeah, guess we'll see as of
April what Ontario intend to do with this
I put in my word, best I could, and um,
one way or another, I do think it's worth
your time to educate yourself about the
Basic Income project, if you're an Ontarian,
because it can be beneficial to everyone,
regardless of your bas- uh, your income
situation, and uh, in that sense, beneficial
to our entire society, and our ability to
progress, and reducing poverty, and
suffering, and thus grow and prosper!
So, why not, right? Definitely educate
yourself in the end; and uh, if you have any
comments or thoughts on the Basic Income
concept, or um, any information that I
haven't mentioned here, that you think is
relevant, by all means, please do feel
free to share that in the comments below;
and as always, do join me again next
week, where I try again to share a little
something I've learned in life!