Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles Crime. You know that thing that was almost solved -by a flasher dog in 1980's. But specifically this story is about how we increasingly solve crimes using forensic evidence. It's that thing that is just a staple of TV crime shows. Pull it from the torso on the left. Pull it from the boat on the right. Two hearts beat as one. Matches up perfectly. That's a match. We've got a match. And it just found us a match. Visible match. -We've a match. -Match. Were you able to determine which monkey bit him? The bite marks match those of the monkey found at the scene. Wow! That last one was presumably from one of the crossover episodes where the team from Law & Order, worked a case with the cast of Monkey Law and Monkey Order. -But... on TV and in real life forensic science plays an important role in criminal convictions. Prosecutors often complain about a so called C.S.I. effect, where jurors expect to see forensic evidence in every case. The problem is, not all forensic science is as reliable as we've become accustomed to believe. A report in 2009,by the National Academy of Sciences found that many forensic scientists do not meet the fundamental requirements of science. And a report last year by a Presidential Science Council agreed saying that, "expert witnesses have often overstated the value of their evidence, going far beyond what the relevant science can justify," and that's the thing here. It's not that all forensic science is bad, 'cause it's not, but too often, it's reliability is dangerously overstated and one sign of that is that forensic experts in court are often nudged to use one very convincing phrase. To a reasonable degree of the scientific certainty... To a reasonable degree of scientific certainty... To a reasonable degree of the scientific certainty... Within reasonable scientific certainty... To a reasonable degree of scientific certainty... Are you able to say that within a reasonable degree -of the scientific certainty? -Yes. And here's the thing that phrase does have a persuasive ring to it. Unfortunately, as that Presidential Council pointed out, it has no generally accepted meaning in science. It's one of those terms like, basic or trill that has no commonly understood definition. Am I trill? Is that good or bad? I mean I do feel trill, so I'm guessing it's awful. And-- when bad science is confidently presented, terrible convictions can happen. In fact, among the hundreds of people who have been exonerated by DNA testing since 1989, in nearly half of their cases, there was some misapplication of forensic science and there are people behind those numbers. Take Santae Tribble, who was convicted of murder and served 26 years. In large part, thanks to an FBI analyst who testified that his hair matched hairs found at the scene. And as he will tell you, the evidence was presented, as being rock solid. They said they matched my hair in all microscopical characteristics. And that's the way they presented it to the jury and the jury took it for granted that, that was my hair. But you know, I can see, why they did. Because who other than an FBI expert would possibly know that much about hair? Except of course, whoever stalled Amanda Seyfried at the 2009 Oscars. Breath taking waves, without loosing any of their body or bounce. -Stunning. -Stunning! -Stunning. -Stunning. Stunning! Stunning! Stunning! Stunning! Stunning! Stunning! The jurors in Tribble's case, were actually told there was one chance in ten million that it could be someone else's hair, and guess what? He was exonerated. Because once DNA analysis became available, his lawyer tested the thirteen hairs from the case and not only were none of them his, some of what they found was incredible. Nine of the hairs had come from the same source, a couple had come from different sources and one was a dog. Two different FBI agents who had, eh, looked at that and analyzed it, didn't recognize that it was dog hair? It was a K9. It was a domestic dog, yes. My personal conclusion was, -the dog committed the crime. Okay. So, first, it is amazing that he is able to laugh at that, but second, if a dog did commit the crime there's really no recourse there because there is actually no law against dogs committing murder and that's a fact that learned in Air Bud 9, Fuck the Paw-lice! And it turns out, Tribble is not the only case where FBI experts overstated their confidence in their results. The Innocence Project and the National Association of Criminal Defense lawyers found from the 1970's through 1999, in 268 cases where FBI hair analysis led to a conviction, 257 or 96 percent of them had errors in analysis. Oh, it gets worse because nine of those defendants had already been executed, which is horrifying. And you would expect FBI hair analysis to have a high rate of accuracy than your friend's hair analysis of you can totally pull off bangs, because you can't, you absolutely can't, believe me I couldn't, just learn-- -learn from our mistakes kids. Save yourselves! It's too late for me. And look, it's by no means, just microscopic hair comparison which has had the reliability of these results overstated. Those reports that I showed earlier suggests there is weak scientific support for some aspects of techniques like a blood pattern, footwear, firearm and bite mark analysis. And you must be familiar with that last one from cool scenes like this: A little 3D magic for clarity and I give you the killer's incisors. (COMPUTER BEEPING) Oh, Yo! The computer rated it "Yellow rectangle." And we all know yellow rectangle is the highest level of match a computer can give you about teeth. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) Look, in the real world, bite mark analysis is highly subjective and unreliable. The President's Council found the entire discipline, does not meet the scientific standards for foundational validity. Which I believe, is science speak for "Bullshit!" But people have been sent to prison on the basis of bite mark testimony by experts like, Dr. Michael West. The science of bite marks analysis, is very accurate. NARRATOR 1: When it comes to bite marks, West consider himself "The maestro." He's found bite marks on a decomposed body submerged in a swamp, on a corpse that had been buried for more than a year. He's even used a bite mark taken out of a bologna sandwich to get a conviction. Now, that sounds impressive matching a killer's teeth to a bite mark in a bologna sandwich, although, you should know that the defendant in that case, got a new trial after an autopsy report found that the murder victim had actually eaten a small amount of bologna consistent with the amounts bitten off the sandwich. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -So, that sandwich, was irrelevant to the case. In fact, you could even argue that it was actually Dr. West, who was full of, say it with me, -shit. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) And-- that is not the only issue that has arisen from his testimony. There are now five cases where he testified for the prosecution and where the charges were dropped or the conviction was later over turned and even West himself has admitted that he no longer believes in bite mark analysis for identifying perpetrators and he doesn't think it should be used in court. And yet, incredibly, every time a defendant has challenged its validity the court has ruled it admissible. And a key reason for that is that judges often rely on precedent to decide what to allow in front of a jury. So, if a particular discipline has been in court before it is likely that a judge will admit it again. All of which means that as the co-founder of the Innocence Project points out, decisions about the validity of science are being made by people who don't necessarily know much about it. Historically, we had a situation where, two scientifically illiterate lawyers argued the bonafides of scientific evidence before a scientifically illiterate judge, so the 12 scientifically illiterate jurors could decide the weight of that evidence. And if you think about it, that's absolutely terrifying. Trials can often be a situation when no one really knows what they are doing. It's like a cooking competition for toddlers, hosted by a stray cat and judged by goats. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -Oh. The tuna was under cooked and covered in cold spaghetti sauce. You then for some reason cover the whole dish in honey nut cheerios. -I loved it. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) And look, none of this is to say, that there is not reliable forensic science out there. Finger prints and DNA are obvious examples but while we think of them as perfect, it is important to know they are by no means infallible. The FBI has found fingerprint analysis could have a false positive rate as high as one error in 306 cases. And a dramatic example of this came after the Madrid's train bombings in 2004 when the FBI arrested this Oregon man, Brandon Mayfield. He had never even been to Spain in his life. But, three separate examiners, matched his finger prints to one on a bag of detonators. So, he was at that point, completely fucked! Until, investigators happen to determine that, that fingerprint actually also matched someone else who was in Spain at the time and that blew the minds of finger print experts. MARK ACREE: We always assume that finger prints are very very unique, but what the Mayfield case demonstrates, is that parts of a fingerprint can be so similar, it's possible for two people to be identified to one print. That's true. It turns out that two people can have finger prints that are so close that even experts can't tell them apart. Meaning that we are now this close to finally proving my theory. There is only one Olsen twin. She's just moving very fast -back and forth. -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) She confuses your eye. Now, I don't know how this new information helps me, yet, but when it does, the end is-- No! You frauds! You frauds! (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) And then-- there is DNA, which is the gold standard in forensic science for a reason because in perfect conditions it's seen as the most reliable form of evidence, but not all DNA tests are equal and crime scenes can produce DNA of widely varying quality. NARRATOR 2: DNA is very fragile and easily mixed up at a messy scene. BRAD HART: So, imagine you come across a crime scene. You may have a pool of blood but it may not just be one person's blood, right? The more contributors to that-- mixture of DNA the more difficult it is, to determine, whose DNA it was. Whose blood it was. Exactly, it can be difficult to tell whose blood is whose, in a large pool of blood, which is coincidentally, the premise of my new game show. So, you think you can tell whose blood is whose in a large pool of blood? It premieres on Tuesday night and apparently, -it's already been cancelled. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) But the problem here is, lower quality DNA samples are sometimes presented to juries as if they are highly reliable. In 2003, a prosecutor in a double murder told the jury that the odds, the defendant's DNA match the glove found at the scene by chance, was one in 1.1 billion. So, that's pretty strikingly impressive, but it turned out the glove actually contained at least three people's DNA and a later analysis put the odds closer, to one in two. And you know what? That's close enough isn't it? People do confuse the numbers 1.1 billion and two all the time. That's why I'm always mistakenly saying that my favorite R&B group is Boyz 1.1 Billion Men. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) And on top of all of this there is one more fact that can be impossible to detect. And it concerns the relationship between law enforcement and the forensic labs themselves because you would hope that those labs would work independently taking in evidence and spitting out results. But many labs work closely with law enforcement knowing details of the case that they are working on which can prejudice their work even subconsciously. Sometimes it's not intentional fraud but rather, something, um, much more, uh, inadvertent. Uh, which is the kind of bias that can come from feeling like you're part of a side part of a team, that you-- you're part of-- you're attached to the prosecution and you wanna get, uh, get the bad guy. Yeah, but that's not their job! At all! They are supposed to be neutral. If a referee, started participating in a team's end zone celebration, you'd have some serious fucking questions, like, why have you picked a side? And, how long you've been practicing the dirty bird? (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) So, clearly here a lot needs to be fixed and some states have stepped up. One has done a lot. Including passing a first of its kind Junk Science law. Which enables convicts to request a new trial, if the sides used to convict them was flawed, and that sounds great and the pioneering state that did that by the way, -was Texas. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) Yes, I know! -Texas! -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) You don't expect Texas to lead the nation in science-related criminal justice reform. You expect them to lead the nation in remembering the Alamo or naming their children "Football." (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) "I love you Football but if you ever forget the Alamo -we are done." -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) Now, sadly, at the federal level progress has been slow. Although, one group, the National Commission on Forensic Science has tried to fix that. They were founded to advise the DOJ on how to address many of the problems, that you've seen tonight. And their most recent meeting, featured powerful remarks from Keith Harward, who spent 33 years in prison for a crime that he did not commit based on faulty bite mark evidence. Some would say, "Well you're a free man," well... I will never be free of this. There's no possibility-- Excuse me if I get emotional. That... I spent more than half my life in prison... behind the opinions... and the expert egos... of two Odontologist. There's a death penalty case in Pennsylvania that's going on now and the judge is going to allow bite mark evidence. How many people have to be wrongly convicted before they realize that this stuff's all bogus? It's all-- made up. That's a good question and it's also the kind of speech that could really inspire that commission to do a lot of good work. Unfortunately, that was actually their final meeting because the commission was shut down in April by Attorney General and xenophobic boss baby, Jeff Sessions. And know what? That shouldn't really surprise you anyways. Sessions is a former prosecutor and he does seem like the kind of guy who watched Dead Man Walking and was like, hurry up! Let's kill the guy already! This movie should be called, "Dead Man Dilly Dallying". Let's go people, let's go! So, we may honestly be actively going backwards on this issue, which is dangerous, because not only are innocent people getting convicted, guilty criminals are being left on the streets as a result. And if this administration does not see this as a problem then we should at the very least, do more to educate potential jurors about some of the short comings in our system and one small way to do that, might be this: NARRATOR 3: In this city, -when the heat rises... -(SIREN WAILING) so does the murder rate. ♪ (ROCK & ROLL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ Alright everybody, let's get this stuff back to the lab. Hey chief, no need. Look what I found, bite mark. Bologna sandwich. Now, that's what I call... -"Dead meat." -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) Whoa! The fuck is wrong with you? Dead meat? This is a murder. -That's a human person. -That is his wife over there. -You're a fucking asshole. -(WIFE SOBBING) NARRATOR 3: He's a crime solver, who doesn't like to play by the rules. I'm getting something on these bite marks here, but it's far from conclusive. Would you say there's a reasonable degree of scientific certainty? No. -That's meaningless. -Right. NARRATOR 3: And that's a problem for absolutely everyone around him. Chief, the hair matches the victim's wife. Case closed. Slow down. Microscopic hair comparison is bullshit science. Chief, I ran a mitochondrial DNA test on those hairs. The wife did it right? Case closed. Actually, there were five hairs. -Three were from... a coconut. -And two were from... the wife. One was from a Cabbage Patch Kid and the remaining one was from-- -The wife. -This Golden Retriever. There's our killer right there, Chief. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -The victim was shot. -How can a dog fire a gun? -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -That's a bad dog right there. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) And he's about to face some... "Woof" justice. We're in doors. Fuck you. NARRATOR 3: And he won't stop asking the hard questions. How 'bout a certainly reasonable science degree to-- No. Yeah, okay. NARRATOR 3: Because he's passionate about his job. Despite not fully understanding what that job is. If we don't have something solid by tomorrow, D.A. is gonna have my ass. Why would the D.A. have your ass? We don't work for the D.A. -What? -We don't work for the D.A. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -You do understand that, right? Please, tell us you understand that. -Well, yeah. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) I understand that. Totally. NARRATOR 3: Oh, there's no way he understands that. Because this guy, will not quit. How about a certainly reasonable-- -Stop talking. -Okay. -Keep up the good work. -Okay. NARRATOR 3: And even when his team abandons him he's not afraid to call for back-up. -This better be good. -Oh, it is. I brought in some extra help. Expert witnesses to help lock in this case. Take a look. We got, the Forensic Dentist, Twin Boy Detectives, an old timely prospector with a divining rod, sack full of magic eight balls, and the county's foremost crime sniffing pony. -(PONY WHEEZING) -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) None of this is admissible in court. Actually, three of them have testified in court before and they all got convictions. Is that the bologna evidence sandwich? Oh my God! CSI, Crime Scene Idiot.
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