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It is now about 100 years
that the theory of relativity and
the quantum physics, quantum mechanics,
brought a real earthquake into the classic ways of Science
- especially the physics, but the topic of Near-death experiences
it can bring even a bigger earthquake
- and not only to the neuroscience,
it can change our understanding of our life
because it can open a very big picture
above our existence.
In a way it may perhaps become even a challenge
for the modern time humanity
to integrate the implication of this phenomena.
Tibetan Master Kalu Rinpoche
You see?
So, the Near-death experiences are not real
in the way they appear to the dying people.
Similarly like this world around us
is not real in the way
we are perceiving it. And it is not only
the Buddhist wisdom and Buddhist insight
which is telling that. It is even our science which knows that as well.
Giving example:
the light and the colors
they don't exist. These are just
electromagnetic waves
of a very particular wave-length
and electromagnetic waves are colorless,
or even lightless -
it is the interpretation
of our eye and especially the brain
which gives the appearance of light and colors and shapes and all that.
But
the Buddhist teachings are also very
unequivocal about the other side
of this truth: that in the different frequencies of existence
- or if you like, in the different frequencies of appearances -
the experience of happiness
and sorrow is what it is.
You know, your tooth ache:
it's good to know it is just appearance
does it help you?
I think I don't need to explain what is meant by Near-death experiences
because this topic is now discussed everywhere.
You can find it even in the mainstream medias,
you will find it in professional literature, in the magazines,
even in daily newspapers... Usually there is an attempt
to explain it away in some way,
but also, to be honest, there is
also increasing number of articles popping up
representing rather the other side
of the discussion.
So, in this talk I would explore
the phenomenon of Near-death experiences
as objectively as I can,
assuming a position
from where I can cover, or even explain
all the confronting or
conflicting argumentation of the different sides of the discussion
- and let's be clear that
these involved sides of discussion have sometimes
substantial argumentation for their position. - Sometimes it is even
enhanced by emotions. You know, because it is such a sensitive topic.
The mainstream science, for example,
will try to explain the whole Near-death experience purely materialistically
as a result of the brain chemistry:
all these neurotransmitters, endorphins,
dopamine, serotonin, all that -
and certainly they have quite a heavy weighting argumentation.
For example, that you don't need
to be dying to have this kind of experiences similar to
Near-death experiences,
and it's true, another situations may lead to similar experiences.
But, actually, in the science the predominant
explanation is in this "dying brain surge"
kind of a last goodbye
of the dying brain, you know, putting out this final
spectacular firework of brain chemistry.
So, that would be the position of mainstream science.
But then we have another angle
of argumentation and this comes
from the side of psychology, coming with the hypothesis
that the Near-death experience can be
actually kind of recalling,
or reliving
of the trauma of birth - you know,
this tunnel and the white light
and the spiritual unconditioned love so many times reported
in the Near-death experiences,
comparing it with the birth channel, the baby coming out
to the dayligt, being covered
by the unconditioned love from the parents -
hmmm
So, that would be the argumentation
from the psychology side.
And then we have, of course, the religious community
seeing in it rather
the confirmation of the oldest religious idea actually
that there is a continuation
of existence after the body dies
this kind of afterlife, that only the soul is leaving
the dying body and goes its way
to the different destiny.
Actually, Buddhism is not really working with the concept of soul,
of eternal soul, but it has
the idea of eternal rebirth:
coming from lifetime to the other one
and again in different spheres of existence -
that is the Buddhist point of view.
It is clear that in my explanations I will use predominantly
the wisdom an insight coming from the Buddhist teachings
because it opens the biggest picture
above all these phenomena of Near-death experiences
of afterlife, even of this contemporary
existence here and now, explaining so many things.
So, in this talk
wanting to take this superposition
trying to incorporate all these kinds
of argumentation into one clear explanation.
It is little bit like
the three facets or three sides
of this strange object. So the circle would represent
let's say, the psychology view,
the square would represent the scientific way of explanation,
and the cross would be the religious way of understanding.
You know, like three facets of one object
and our task would be rather
to see the whole object
in one glance.
Not that one of these is correct at the other false,
that is not very helpful. The truth is mainly contained in this
kind of an explanation which covers all the existing ones.
- Actually, I've done it already,
if you have seen the Video "UFO and Buddhism"
in the second half, beside many other things,
I was also explaining this
juxtaposition of Darwinism and creationism
with this superposition, finding a kind of
position from where these two are fully
integrated - not that one is right and
the other is completely false, it doesn't work so.
The truth is more contained in this kind of
embracing all what we know. It is something like
searching for a common denominator.
You may know it from mathematic. If you have
let's say, number 2, 3, 4:
it is not 4 because the 3 is not properly contained in that,
it is not the 6, 9, no,
12! You have to go up to 12
because all the three are properly
contained in that.
So, for task of this magnitude I will start with explanation,
with a fundamental explanation
of the relationship between brain and mind
because this is the foundation,
we have to start with that.
So, I will explain it with the help
of a computer
but I ask you, please, be attentive to it
even if it may appear to you somehow
primitive, or boring, or whatever. Stay attentive through this
little exercise
because I 'will refer to it many times
even later in this talk.
So, get it properly, here it is:
So, as you can see, I have attached many of the peripheral devices
to make the analogy to a living human being
as complete as possible.
The camera is really connected
and that's the symbol of a human seeing
and it works,
microphone is the hearing, symbol for the hearing ability.
Speaker is clear, that is the speaking,
and the modem connected to internet is the symbol for
our social contacts, socializing.
Keyboard and the mouse
is the symbol for
our active, for the active part of our life,
when we are doing things, executing things.
The mouse: symbol for decisions,
deciding every day many things.
The little light in the back is the symbol for
conceptual thinking - sometimes on,
sometimes off, and the hard disc,
the external hard drive, in this case
worldly data, the worldly
information stored in the memory.
And now we have the mind -
the notebook is the symbol, symbolizing the human mind,
and the screen = the consciousness.
The experience of our life is happening
actually, on the screen of consciousness,
and we see already now, experience is running.
So, I think that the representation of a living human being
is as complete as possible,
but now we have here two different switches:
one button has the label "OBE"
which means "out-of-body experience"
and the other one, the red one, has the label
"death of the body".
So first, let us see what will happen
when I press the OBE-button
let's do it - okay:
the notebook is now
undocked from the docking station
so the first think you can see
that the experience continues.
If we look in detail
to the docking station left behind
this is the representation of the human body
with the sensory organs and the brain
and now you see
that the mind actually is working even when it is undocked.
Very important message from that!
Now we can see that the notebook
has its own camera, has its own microphones, and the speaker,
and the keyboard, and the touchpad,
and the hard disk with its own memory
and only it is now wireless:
it has also antenna
so still connections with other beings is possible
buy the communication now
is more-or-less telepathic, it doesn't use normally
the slow human language
the contacts with other beings are now much
more direct mind-to-mind.
Now, this is the analogy for
out-of-body experiences some people are reporting
but what I mean, out-of-body experiences really verified
when the mind of the people really is witnessing something
which can be later verified and really
bringing testimony about things happening
in another places, so that's a classic
out-of-body experience. Now if we look back
in detail on the docking station
symbolizing the human body with the sensory organs
and the brain - all the material components
of our body -
it is still alive, some lights little are
on, but it is in a vegetative state,
it is like vegetable - the mind and consciousness has gone,
only the basic functions of
the body, of the living body, are still directed directly by brain:
the heartbeat, the breathing ..
Now, for the purpose of this demonstration I dared even
to open the docking station to see inside
so that what I'm doing now is like
neuro-surgeon opening the skull
in the case of human body
and, you see, here is the brain. This is the symbol for human brain
and you can see, there is quite lots of electronics
actually involved, these interfaces for the individual peripheral devices,
there is also the important
outlet from the docking station which connects
actually the notebook directly to the motherboard.
When the notebook is docked, the connection with the processor
is very direct: all these peripheral
devices are actually giving input and data
to do bus of the motherboard which is quite direct
to the processor itself. What I am actually showing
with this analogy is this very close relationship between brain
and mind. When it is docked, so it is very intimately
connected with the processor, with the
experience, but when it is
undocked, it has its own life
and goes its own way.
Now, the important message to the
neurologist, neuroscientists, when they are using
EEG (electroencephalograph) or
MRI (magnetic resonance imaging)
or cat scan (computed tomography)
they are not measuring
the activities of the mind, they are
measuring the activities of the docking station
= of the brain only! I think this is very important
message to the neurology and neuroscience.
So, let's put all back
and now let us see what will happen when I press the red button.
It's a little joke, but as the first thing
I was trying to turn the camera of the notebook
towards the docking station to symbolize
that what many near-death experiences or dying experiences
actually are reporting as the first thing: that they are hovering
over their body, witnessing frantic
activity of the doctors over the dead body - usually the near-death experience
starts like that
but then the mind
(the notebook) - the mind goes its own way
usually still having some kind of
etheric body, or fine-material body
which gradually dissolves anyway.
Usually later on, it's just a mind and consciousness
witnessing some quite dynamic-dramatic
events - positive or negative -
and if we now look at the docking station, it's completely black,
the docking station the periphery = the brain
is now dead and experience on the
screen of consciousness continues. So, this is the message
I wanted to show the relationship between brain
and mind: when it is docked, very, very intimate,
very direct, but it can undock
and it can go its own way. And here is the summary
in a graphic form. If you look to the left side:
when the notebook is not connected
so the docking station is good for
absolutely nothing, even if the periphery
is switched on, everything in perfect condition
you cannot do anything with that.
So similarly, the human body and the brain:
even when sensory organs are intact and in perfect condition
the body is alive, but the consciousness and the mind is not connected
it's absolutely good for nothing,
it's like vegetable in the garden. Very different
with the notebook. When the notebook
is connected in the docking station, when it is docked,
so it is receiving the data from the peripheral devices
but when it is disconnected, when it is
undocked, it is still functioning very well, it has its own battery
and hard drive
antenna, display, but it is working
in a different mode, so similarly
the mind, the consciousness and the mind:
when it is docked or connected with the brain, with the body,
so it is receiving the data,
the information, from the sensory organs
and the brain, but when it is disconnected from the body
from the brain
it is still functioning very well, still very alive,
but functioning in somehow different mode -
we would say it is functioning in different frequency of reality,
in the spiritual reality.
You see? Simple as that.
Docking-undocking: as long you have it fresh in your mind,
I wanted also to include here
at least one authentic near-death experience report.
In this particular case
I think it is actually dying experience
because doctor Anthony Cicoria
was hit by a lightning and he died there.
Fortunately, he was resuscitated quite quickly.
I borrowed this video
from Spiritual masters web -
- Supreme masters web
lots of information there, I can recommend,
but it was too long. So I cut it together
taking just the relevant parts, putting it together, enjoy it!
I was standing
at the phone, the building got hit by lightning and
I remember hearing this loud crack
and I saw big flash of light come out of the phone
and it hit me right in the face, and
I remember seeing every bit of that
and when it hit me in the face, it just sent me flying backwards like a rag doll
and suddenly as I was going backwards
suddenly something changed and I was moving forwards
and I remember standing there thinking: this is
really strange. I know that I got hit
I know that something bad happened, that I went flying
backwards, but now I'm not going backwards anymore
I'm just standing here and I remember looking down at my feet and
and I look at the wall, on the phone, is dangling
and I still am mystified as to what had happened
but yet I had complete recall of
every millisecond of that time
and right about that
that moment, my mother-in-law who is at the top of the stairs
starts screaming and she starts running right at me
and I felt like a deer in the headlights.
I am looking at her: what's going on
and she ran right by me
and I turned to see where she was and I looked over on the ground
and I'm on the ground
and I thought, well I mean this is exactly what I thought
I'm dead!
and as I'm standing near
I'm watching what's happening and
there was somebody waiting to use the phone
and it turns out it was a nurse - in the middle of nowhere
waiting to use the phone - and so she drops down to the ground
to start doing CPR, and my mother-in-law was standing near
and all the other people were there by then and I'm still standing here
and I'm looking at them
I hear everything they're saying, but they can't hear me
and they can't see me, because I'm calling out to them
and at that point
it was interesting, because the first realization that I made was
"gee" there's not been a break
in conscious thought at all, so
whoever I am, is not in the body,
it's whatever form I'm in,
spiritual form, is who I am
because the consciousness is with me
all my thoughts are with me, all my memories are with me
and I thought
well, I guess there's no point in hanging
around here. The second thing that was very interesting to me, was that it was
very
dispassionate, there was no emotion associated with the fact that
I was dead, it was very matter-of-fact
oh well, I am, and so I
I thought there's no point staying here, so I turned
and I started to walk up the stairs
and I don't know where I was going but that just seemed to be
what I was going to do
as I'm looking down at my legs, I see my legs dissolved
and so suddenly I'm not
in solid form anymore, I can see that I'm becoming
a floating energy ball of some sort.
I go up, I float up the stairs,
I passed through the wall into the room where
all the family is and I saw my kids
and the rest of my family and my wife and
they were all having fun painting faces and I thought
they'll be fine and
there was no emotion associated with the fact that I wasn't going to see
them again,
it was just very matter-of-fact: they'll be fine and
I'm going some place else and I
floated out the building and when I get out of the building, when things really
started to happen.
As I get out of the building, all of a sudden I was wrapped in this
bluish white light.
At first I was like: okay, what is this
and I'm analyzing it as it's happening
and if you can imagine: absolute pure
love and peace.
That's what it felt like being in this light
and that's what this was like, but this was absolute love and peace
and it was like falling into a river of pure positive energy.
I knew that where I was going
felt pretty good because I could sense
that I was being taken some place and
I saw the really high points and low points of my life just kind
quickly go by, you know, with my kids
and, you know, I did this and I did that
but I was really happy about it, and then
right about the time that I was so happy
that I was going, all of the sudden
"bang" - I was back in my body
I was angry, I, you know, I remember
it hurt, I mean it, you know, I went from absolute bliss
to feeling, you know, like somebody's got punched in the mouth,
and I had a burn on my face and burn on my foot
and there's this poor woman who's doing CPR, and I just want to tell her to stop
but I'm still unconscious
I'm in the, you know, I'm stuck back in this body
it is unconscious but, you know,
my consciousness is still very aware of what's going on
then it seem like several minutes after
after that, that she stopped
and I managed to be able to open my eyes and everything was very fuzzy
and I
I sat up and I just wanted to say that
I was okay and I wanted to thank her.
Yes, then what is me? I think me is
spirit and the spirit lives on
and that we have
a memory of all the times we've come into this
earth plane and
we come, we cycle through in, and we keep going through this process
until we learned a good enough grade that we don't have to keep coming here
Wonderful story, wonderful report
and so many things contained in the report
of doctor Cicoria, and you also you can see so clearly this
ability of the mind to dock and
to undock from the brain, from the body
but let's be clear that in the real life there are also many stages
in between that some of the centers of the brain
are connected with the mind directly
but other centers may be shut down
or disconnected, or even undocked.
You know, so there are many, many stages
in between. One example of this partial disconnection between brain and the mind
are the dreams in the night – usually starting with a review of the
of the events of the day, sometimes even
older material is presenting itself for
kind of a review, material from the brain storage
already mentioned, symbolized in our analogy by the external hard drive
these are the memories, and
memories of events and experiences from this lifetime
all the conceptual thoughts and thinking and
kind of reflections and even feelings in the basic form.
When the brain gets damaged
so this kind of memory may not be
easily accessible anymore, let's say by
injury or Alzheimer. So this would be the first storage, brain storage,
but then usually the sleep
and the dream deepens, some of the
rational controlling functions of the brain
may be reduced or even suspended completely
so that the material, unresolved material from the second
storage may get
free access into the mind - in Buddhist teachings this is called
karma
karmic potentialities,
unresolved material getting into the perception.
Perception is the story maker, so the perception will make the
kind of stories out of these potentialities
presenting it to the consciousness - and we get
nice dreams, bad dreams, confused dreams
even nightmares. It may be helpful at this point to explain
how karma is understood in Buddhism.
The original meaning of the word karma
is 'action' or 'deed', but karma has in Buddhism much, much larger meaning:
it is the central part of the teaching of conditionality - causality,
it has central position in the teachings
of ethics, it is
a decisive factor in the process of rebirth - but
for the purpose of this presentation I prefer to present karma
in almost scientific way. The easiest way to understand it
imagine it as a kind of debt. When we
act against the nature of things, we create particular potential of
imbalance or disturbance. Karma is the thirsty line, the thirsty
track remaining behind our imperfect living,
the unfinished business, kind of positive or negative disbalance,
disturbance of equilibrium.
This "debt" goes with us in a latent form
waiting for the opportunity to return, or
discharge its potential back into life
to reinstall the equilibrium. We can understand karma
and its result to be a kind of basic law of nature
comparable little bit to the second law of thermodynamics
when imbalances
seek equilibrium. You can understand it even clearer
when you look into the life of fully realized, fully enlightened beings.
They live in harmony with the life,
in harmony with their personality and their nature,
and even if they do big
things, there isn't this kind of thirsty karma remaining behind their lives,
always being even with
everything on the spot. They live
with wisdom and compassion, they just respond to the
events coming to them from outside or inside.
But we? We react!
- that's the difference, driven by forces
of imperfection we react with emotions,
with liking and disliking, with desire,
resistance or delusion - and that's karma,
that creates karma! One of the chief producers of karma
is the attachment to the idea of "self",
this ego-obsession, "me"
and "mine", ego-centeredness, egoistic
attitudes. When the particular karma finds the opportunity
to discharge it's potential back into life
that's called "vipaka" - it is the time
when karma ripens and brings it's result,
and so we distinguish good karma
and bad karma, or better, wholesome karma
or unwholesome karma - both
is a kind of debt, both is a kind of disturbance
of equilibrium. When karma of wholesome things ripens
we are in happiness, when unwholesome karma
brings its result, we are in suffering.
Actions are not good or bad because of some divine definition.
Actions - but also
thoughts, speech, also mental attitudes
motivations, all that -
we distinguish wholesome or
unwholesome actions because of the result
they bring about. Is everything in our life result of karma?
- very often comes this question -
certainly not! Karmic forces are
only dispositions. Many things can happen to us in our life
but only that, which will somehow resonate
with elements from our karmic pool will
really touch us - positively or negatively.
Karma also steers the rebirth
of beings - you know, this is Buddhism - and then
we are born with unfinished karma from previous existences.
We consume karma during our lives but
by reacting and acting selfishly
we create new karmic forces - good
or bad. Buddhism teaches to create good karma,
but in the ultimate goal it
aims at ending karma altogether. So even the dreams
are kind of karma work, when some karmic stored
stuff presents itself to the mind for
integration, for healing.
But further. In our computer
analogy we have even a third gateway
of entry in our experience symbolized
on the picture by the Wi-Fi-antenna. It is a symbol
for input coming to the mind from transcendental
or spirituals zones, from
all kinds of different frequencies of reality.
Now, on the example of dreams we have seen
that the brain is not the producer of experience, neither it is
a receiver of experience or consciousness,
in a wakeful state - meaning
when the mind is docked in the brain
or to the brain - in that case the brain is something like
a pre-processor, or deliverer, or supplier
of worldly sensory impingements, feelings
and conceptual thoughts to the mind – or more precisely,
to the perception of the mind. The brain
in this case floods the perception with worldly data
and the perception makes of it our life story
you know, the perception = the story maker,
but by functioning in this way, the brain
actually protects from, or shields the mind
of any transcendental or spiritual input
and access - and let's be clear
that this kind of "protection"
for ninety-five percent of people
is a blessing! It is really important
because more than half of the spiritual content and influence
is highly undesirable, even dangerous.
So many people damaged the natural protection by
drugs and ended in mental hospitals.
Therefore advanced spiritual practices
should be done only after clear and solid preparation
and appropriate purification - else
they may lead to unwanted or even
very unwanted results.
You see, I've put this on the paper because
it would be too difficult to formulate it correctly
in a concise way - and so here is the summary:
we should understand the brain to be rather a shield
or a defender, or actually
a blocker of any spiritual other-worldly
input. Everything which goes through the brain
into the mind is worldly and mundane by definition
and under normal circumstances
the worldly stuff has priority, so that the
other influences are blocked or
strongly reduced. But when the brain is partially
or fully disconnected, the experience of the mind
is increasingly shaped by the forces of karma
(that would be the second hard drive) which
under normal circumstances... of course the karma has
influence even into our everyday life
that what we are perceiving, or
better, how we are perceiving this multitude
of events happening to us, what we
are choosing, what we are focusing on
and how we experience it, that is
quite strongly influenced by the past karma.
So karma has
its influence even in our everyday life but
when the rational functions of the brain
are somehow reduced or partially disconnected, even blocked
then these things have free access
into the perception, into the mind. For
highly spiritual people this is the blessing, this is the
wanted opening, for
unprepared, unpurified people
this is curse, because they
then will be hunted by demons and all that
stuff of the low
spiritual areas. So, when the brain is partially or fully disconnected
the experience of the mind is increasingly shaped
by the forces of karma and impulses from the spiritual world -
and of course, when the body dies, that exactly is:
the rational filter has gone, all these rational
limitations or steering
have gone and now the mind is fully open
for the active karma
and for the influences
from the spiritually realities, different zones.
With this knowledge you will also better understand the function of different
spiritual practices.
Some of them use the brain
but majority of the practices are actually
designed to attenuate, or turn
off the conceptual functions of the brain
(= conceptual rational functions of the brain)
for example the work with Koan in Zen-Buddhism
that's one example, saturating,
or even over-saturating the brain
with an apparent nonsense
until it gives up
and opens the mind towards freedom. You know, this is a classic spiritual path
which is pretty sure that it will
open up to the wholesome or wanted
areas of spiritual
realities. Or the classical concentration meditation
using one single, non-conceptual meditation object
to fill the brain with it completely and so
to stop its coarse conceptual activities
enabling the mind to tune to refine subtle levels
of consciousness. Under meditation the majority of people
understands this, but of course there are many different kinds of meditations
and especially in Buddhism - this is just a secondary training
focusing and deepening
the concentration, but the core of the Buddhist teaching is
insight, wisdom,
which is not attained by pure
concentration of the mind – another time
I will speak about it more.
Now, some explanations: the mainstream science heaviest
argument for the "brain creates mind"
theory (which is actually
an assumption, brain creates consciousness, brain creates mind),
is the evident fact and truth
that with the help of chemical substances
it is possible to influence, even change
the experience of the mind. Psychoactive drugs
used in the therapy and psychiatry can change
the quality of life, psychedelic
chemical substances quite evidently can trigger
enormous dramatic and even spiritual experiences:
isn't it a rock-solid proof
that the experience, even transcendental experience is created
by material brain? (You know,
rhetoric question. Now comes the
rhetoric answer:) It is not! We can compare the function of
psychoactive drugs with influencing the
electronics of the docking station. If we go back to our computer analogy,
in the docking station if we influence the electronic in
any subtle way, or in any targeted way,
influencing this, it will influence the stream of data
coming to the notebook, certainly yes, and
of course, it is a very specific way we want to increase the colors, or
make it a little bit more quick, or whatever, so similarly this
psychoactive drugs are influencing the work of neurotransmitters and endorphins
and dopamine and all that
so that actually the brain works
somehow more smoothly, or as we want to Work,
so in that case, of course,
these drugs work, and can influence the quality of life,
but in no way they are proof
that the brain
is producer of consciousness or the producer of the mind -
that's the message here.
So the psychoactive chemical or biochemical drugs are not
influencing the mind directly but they are influencing
the workings of the material brain only.
Now, there are some scientific
experiments, when electromagnetic impulses were sent to the
temporal lobe of a volunteer using the spiritual helmet or
they call it the "God helmet". These people
were then reporting almost spiritual
experiences of oneness or even kind of a weak mystical experiences.
The mainstream science took this
as a proof and evidence that
all spiritual experiences are created by brain
and that they are the product of the brain.
The truth is actually exactly the opposite:
sending electric or electromagnetic waves
to some brain centers will certainly disturb, jam,
or hamper the normal brain
very subtle neuronal functions,
it will set certain brain areas
out of work, so that some of the transcendental contents
can address the mind - this is my explanation
to these very notable and interesting
experiments I was
tracing already quite some time ago thinking about how this would
be possible..
Another example: doctors gave
a dose of psilocybin to a volunteer
(psilocybin is the mushroom substance,
very strong hallucinogenic drug)
and they then put that person into MRI-scan
expecting spectacular firework
in the brain neuronal activity, but actually
the opposite was the result: some brain centers were
rather static or inactive. This is a story I only heard it,
I have no confirmation for that story
but it would go exactly in the same line
that the drugs actually, especially the psychedelic drugs,
are rather blocking or disturbing or switching off
some of the normal regular functions of the brain, this protective
function of the brain, so that the transcendental contents may
resonate, come in
into the mind and make its presentation so to say.
Actually, there is a confirmation for this experiment:
it was done by Professor David Nutt
and his group and what he said
about this experiment in a video clip: "... and what we found
was completely surprising and exactly the opposite
of what we predicted, because we found that psilocybin turned off
blood flow in the key parts of the brain such as the prefrontal cortex
the posterior cortex and the thalamus. When you look at those parts of the brain
you realize that they are actually the parts of the brain
which control and integrate the way in which the brain processes information.
They are the kind of gatekeeper regions
the nodes which regulate what you do and what you feel
and by switching those off, we can kind of liberate the rest of the brain
so that it can do other things and that's why you get the expansion of
consciousness."
The mind is not created by brain and these are all
indications for that, but what I would consider as a real proof
is one case from the collection of
Ian Stevenson. It was not collected by him,
it happened in Bangalore, in India, and it was collected by
doctor Satwan Pasricha, associated clinical professor
of National Institute of Mental health in May 1985.
Again,
to make this story short: Sumitra was
a bare-foot married village woman and she died of a seizure
they declared her dead, but after some time she woke up
as a completely different woman, as Shiva
a daughter of a schoolmaster, of a schoolteacher
from another village, which died violently
some years before.
Now, suddenly she did not recognize anybody
from her previous family, she found very strange to meet her
husband so-to-say, she started to address him in a very special way,
now she was a quite an intelligent woman, with a completely different
personality.
She could read and write. When the schoolmaster
from the other village heard about it, he came to see her -
she immediately recognized him, she
could actually recognize even the mother -
they made a kind of test visiting the family of this schoolteacher
there were quite a number of women all over
and they hid the mother into her special room
and Sumitra-Shiva was immediately
clear that mother is not here, she would go
to the room of the mother, she knew where it was.
She could remember 16 accounts of Shiva's life not mentioned
in any press reports, she
identified 22
relatives of Shiva from photograph, some of them naming
directly by name.
So, for me this is a very strong case showing
that the mind is not created by brain.
So, this was the first part of the talk and I have to admit that
actually the main purpose was to shake up
the mainstream neuro-scientists and their convictions
that the mind and the consciousness are created by material brain.
Wishing really,
inviting them to open up to a bigger perspective
on the complexity of the
human mentality and human consciousness.
It is not that simple as they
think and there are so many things coming
from different sides knocking at their
doors, you know, to explain
all these "anomalies" all these anomalies
like out-of-body experiences, like telepathy,
near-death experiences, how it would be possible that
with sending loving kindness you can influence other people
and it is true, it is even statistically
proven. Now, on the other side
I want also to acknowledge
the huge development in neuro-science
especially in the 5 last years, such a big step forward
in the research, in the results of the
research. Probably
also due to new generations of the scanners.
Tomography means the slicing
of the body with the scanner. Computed tomography is still using actually
radiation, X-ray, so
there is little concern about irradiation
of these organs you are
scanning. The MRI - magnetic resonance
is not using X-ray, it is using
very, very strong magnets – sometimes the contrast still needs to be
increased
so there is sometimes intravenous
contrast medium injected. Even more so with the positron emission tomography PET
PET-scan is also using
intravenous medium, so
that the blood-saturated centers
in the body can be detected very
clearly, but the resolution of the PET-scan is not very good
so what is the new method: combining,
because each of these scanning methods
(including also the electro-encephalograph EEG), each of these methods
is good just for something and not so good for other things
so actually the new generations are now combining
usually two different methods together in one machine
so that the new project, the "Human connectome project" has been started.
and the ambitious aim
is to map the neuronal connections in the brain.
Before it was the Human genome project
mapping of the DNA, which is more-or-less concluded -
of course, the research continues, but the genome has been
decoded so to say, so now comes the brain -
and we are getting these very impressive beautiful pictures
even visually it is quite interesting,
but I think that these new
beginning results in this research
are bringing more questions than answers.
The idea was in neuro-science that
all these information
that is a kind of convergence of the information in the brain
so there would be a kind
of a center, where the consciousness is created and the mind is created
now look at these pictures:
the neuronal connections are rather running apart
instead of coming together.
So I think there are quite some new
wrinkles
on the forehead of the materialistic neuro-scientists
and new challenge actually appears
because if we look in the
old Abhidhamma, more than two thousand years old
in Buddhism, actually,
there are not five senses, there are six senses:
the five senses
we know plus mind, and
each of the senses has its base. So the seeing has the eye,
the hearing has the ear or the drum, the nose, the tongue,
the body for
touching, for the tactile qualities it is the whole
surface of the body and
the organ for the mind is defined as heart.
In Asia
you have, you get it even today
when "I think..." you know, pointing to the head
but the Asian people "I think..."
pointing to their hearts. So the influence of these
ancient ideas is still among the people there -
may be correct, it may be wrong
the knowledge of anatomy two thousand years ago
was certainly very basic but
these sages were actually approaching
the mind and body from completely different perspective
to understand it - so they may be
correct, there may be wrong - don't believe
just things too quickly even in the spirituality
what I say: that a healthy faith
and the healthy skepticism belongs to the healthy life
and belongs to the healthy spirituality as well,
but the fanatical faith
and obsessive skepticism
this is the way down, this is the way to blindness
and to be limited.
So this is my recommendation also for the neuro-science
to have its sceptics but
to also have open windows
for completely new way of understanding, especially if it promises
to explain so many new things. So this
can be said about the Human connectome project -
but actually more to this:
the brain plasticity, very well-known,
that if some center is damaged that
the brain can very nicely compensate after a while
it will create new connections
in the neuronal ways and functions.
So, I
think even that each person
is wired somehow differently. I suspect there is big difference
between the Asian brain
and the Western brain, that there is a different cultural background it's clear
I suspect that even the brain is wired differently.
I spent five years in Burma,
I know what I am talking about
and, moreover,
there are people walking among
us almost without a brain.
It is called "hydrocephalus"
it is this article I came across:
on the right side this is the brain of a normal average person
on the left side this is the hydrocephalus
when there is a huge cavity
filled with cerebrospinal fluid and
little bit of the brain tissue at the edges of the skull
and this is a person who has a job
as a civil servant, father of two children
actually they found it by chance
that he has this huge cavity
in the head, and his IQ
is under the average, that's true, 75 that's not very good,
the average would be 100 or 105
110 and he has 75
but in a certain framework he can lead a normal life
you know, and how to explain
these things. For me it is just another
indication that the mind with its enormous complexity
is not created by brain. Look what the
famous professor Michio Kaku has to say
to this new discoveries. He is the cofounder of the string theory
so theoretical physicist of a great caliber I would say
of course, in this particular clip
he is talking to university students so also
he was tuning his language to the level of the audience
enjoy it. First of all: is the brain a digital computer?
For fifty years we thought yes, and the answer is really no.
The brain has no operating system, the brain
has no programming, there's no CPU
there are no subroutines, nothing. So what
is the brain? The brain is learning machine
it is a neural network of sort, which rewires itself
after learning every task. Therefore it does use some
digital some analog in a combination, but as you correctly pointed out
reading, reading what these neurons do
is beyond our capability. So what we do in the laboratories we cheat
we simply see a configuration of neurons corresponding to moving your arm like
this
then we create a dictionary - very clumsy
but that's what we do in the laboratory. You see!
So, considering the complexity of the mind
as well, I came across another
article, which was actually
exploring the complexity of the body,
of the human body - I could not believe it.
So I started to calculate it myself and in fact, I came to the double
of that incredible
message.
So, this article was describing the human body consisting of
37 trillions of cells. The number,
the assessment is now higher, I remember
some twenty years ago it was something like ten trillions
now it is more, it is 37 trillions
of cells. Each cell has a nucleus
with chromosomes. Human cell has 23
chromosomes or chromosome
double, or chromosome pairs; and the chromosome actually it's
a DNA molecule coiled very tightly together.
The 23 chromosomes are
not the same, they are different in size but the average size
of DNA, if you straighten up
the molecule, so the average size is
5 centimeters. If you would
straighten the DNA of one human cell and connect it together:
230 centimeters,
over two meters - which is
a lot
because it is just a molecule, this double helix.
DNA is a molecule
3 nanometers thin
which means 20,000 times
thinner than the human hair.
This article was just playing with the idea
that we would take DNA of one human body
straighten it up and connect: how long will be
this fiber?
From London to Paris? What do you think?
From London to New York - or
twenty times around the earth? What do you think?
All wrong,
all wrong! Terribly wrong:
million times around
the earth -
one human body. Actually according to my calculation
almost two million times around
the equator. This
enormous complexity of the human body!
And we are sometimes so stupid
referring to it
"my body". What is mine in that?
The digestion? Or the blood circulation, or the immune system?
The neuronal network? What is
mine in the body. Now
imagine if the mind would be more complex than the body -
possible, I don't know. So neuroscience is doing big step forwards?
In my understanding it is big
ant step forwards on
a journey many miles long.
I think with this preparation we are now ready
to proceed to the next chapter in this
exploration talk
not yet near-death experiences but out-of-body experiences.
Let's look at that phenomenon
little bit more precisely because that's kind of a between link
and we can understand the near-death experiences better
when we understand out-of-body experiences.
There are two kinds of them, but to start with that
I will take a kind of a reference
base, so that we have something solid
we can rely on, and I will take the
very detailed description
of out-of-body experience of psychologist doctor Susan Blackmore.
When she was young in Cambridge
she was exploring different area of
paranormal phenomena generally, but as a psychologist keeping
quite a sober view and mind over that, critical mind actually,
perhaps even too critical, materialistically colored,
they had some meeting and then
they went to their private rooms and
she described that they were using
cannabis - you know, this is the
academic cover-name for marihuana -
they were stoned on marihuana and
in that state she got extremely strong
out-of-body experience, starting with
disassociating from the body seeing
her from above, then continuing through the ceiling
and above the Cambridge building, then she would
travel towards the Mediterranean
then back over
Italy, Switzerland, then to New York and South America
then she would expand to the size of the universe
then again getting so small
she could not fit back into her body
she was travelling inside her body could not
wake up in her body, fortunately there have been friends around to
help her
finally she got kind of
back to have normal senses.
Now, in her report
two things are extremely valuable for
our exploration of near-death experiences.
When she was above the
Cambridge building she
moved a little bit, because you know, in this
out-of-body condition you can move to certain
limits by your will, by your wanting,
so she moved to the gutter
of the building (gutter is the rain-water channel
on the roof) looking at it
in detail and she could see that there are old
metallic gutters there
and then she continued the astral travelling
towards Mediterranean.
The next day she went out
wanting to see if
her vision from the out-of-body experience
really is matching the human world
reality and
looking at the gutters there were
new plastic ones! You see,
the out-of-body experience completely mind made.
So, that's the first very important message
from that report. The second one: for her
it felt so extremely real -
getting the second message from this side:
even if the things feel so
extremely real, substantial like this world
around me, doesn't mean that it is
real
and I take it as a very valuable information
because it is coming from a professional,
and if you
reflect deeply, you start to doubt
even our world around us because
it appears so extremely real to us -
but perhaps I will come to it a little bit later
there is a difference. So, I said
there are two different kinds of out-of-body experiences:
these, which are purely
kind of hallucinations of the mind
but there is the other one,
the other kind of out-of-body experiences
which can be corroborated,
veridical, they are called veridical when you can verify
that this out-of-body mind was witnessing something
which was really taking place in another location
and we have the report
of doctor Cicoria, the first part of it.
He was evidently out of his body
you know, seeing this phone
dangling, looking at his feet, still there
but when he turned, he could see his body people running to it
he could hear what they were
saying, but they could not hear him
and he was seeing
something which was taking place in
the earthly reality. - So, if you want to become
invisible, that would be the recipe.
Of course this is just the beginning
of the out-of-body experience in the
near-death experiences, later on, if we go
with the report of doctor Cicoria
he was floating over the stairs,
his feet, his legs were dissolving,
went through the wall into the room where
the children were painting faces.
We do not have any confirmation
if this was the earthly reality or
this was already a part of out-of-body experience
which is a pure projection. I don't have the information, could be both:
it could be that the children,
his family, really was there and the children were
painting some faces, but it can be also
that he was already detaching from the
human world frequency, going into the spiritual one.
The collection
of verified out-of-body experiences is actually quite large
and still growing, but it's true that
these things are happening mostly among the close
family members or relatives so that
the veridical weight of
these testimonies is not very high
therefore very special position
are receiving those cases which are happening in the hospitals
because the testimony is coming from professional personnel.
To name
at least the most famous ones: I would say Pam Reynolds.
In 1991 she developed a dangerous
aneurism very deep down in the brain
almost sitting on the brainstem, extremely difficult to get to it.
Aneurism is the ballooning of the blood vessel.
If that bursts
that is fatal, the patient would die.
So actually, Pam was in a critical condition
and everybody giving up because
to get to that aneurism without damaging
the brain was very, very difficult task.
Finally doctor Robert Spetzler took the case
in Phoenix, in Arizona but
he choose a very special condition for this very special case.
It this called the "deep hypothermic
cardiac arrest"
which means that for the main part of the surgery
Pam was put into death. This kind of
operation is called or nicknamed "standstill operation".
The procedure took
7 hours,
starting with general anesthesia, the body was
pumped with phenobarbital, a medicament
to slowdown the brain metabolism
to get rid of the brain waves, then
started the external cooling of the body
to have more time for the main surgery.
Also the eyes were closed and taped
shut to avoid drying out
of the eyes, special beeping
modules were inserted into the ears
of the body to have the possibility to monitor the response of the brain and
the brain stem -
it was completely flat. In this condition
the body of Pam was wheeled into the operation theatre.
Now the second round of the preparations started
doctor Spetzler started to unpack
the bone saw to open the skull
and the cardiologists, the female
cardiologists started to connected the
heart-lung machine to cool the blood,
to cool the body even internally - and
at this time Pam's mind came out
of the body, undocked from the brain
and typically observing
these happenings in the operation theatre
from above, seeing her body. Actually her face was also covered with a drape
only the crown of the head was exposed for the surgery -
and this is the condition from which
her out-of-body experience comes: instrumented
completely, all the vital functions of the body was
monitored, closely observed, and she is bringing
testimony how the bone saw
looks like, that what doctor Spetzler was holding
in his hand, this very unexpected tool
bone saw - we would imagine something like that -
not at all, it's a kind of the pneumatic drill
actually, with interchangeable blades
and Pam is comparing the instrument
to the handle of her electric toothbrush.
She is correctly describing
also the case in which the interchangeable blades
are disposed, she is even correctly remembering the conversation going on
between doctor Spetzler and the cardiologist
because there is a problem,
blood vessels in the groin are too small
to connect the heart-lung machine so doctor is
instructing to try the other side.
The out-of-body experience of Pam is happening in this very closely observed
circumstances of the hospital of the operation theatre.
Later on the operation continues,
the body temperature is brought down to 15 degrees centigrade,
of course the heart stops by itself
the blood is drained from the brain
so that doctor Spetzler can use
his surgical microscope to perform the operation
and at this time Pam goes seamlessly
into her very elaborate near-death experience
and coming back after
worming of the body, coming back to tell us the story.
There was a very good BBC documentary
about this case, it is still available somewhere in the internet
and in that documentary Pam is giving her
commentary: "I was looking down at the body
I knew it was my body, but I didn't care.
My vantage point was sort of sitting
on doctor shoulder. I remembered the instrument in his hand
it looked like a handle of my electric toothbrush..."
and doctor Spetzler
later in the interview, he was reflecting the case
"I don't have an explanation for it
I don't know how it's possible for it to happen
considering the physiological state she's in
at the same time I have seen so many things
that I can't explain that I don't want to be so arrogant
as to be able to say that there is no way can happen."
This is a wonderful comment of
a high-level specialist to
express this kind of humbleness towards the mystery of
life, very beautiful. So, that was the Pam Reynolds case.
The other case is also very special
Vicky Umipeg Noratuk
woman born blind. She got married
but was involved in a very bad
car crash. In that
dying condition brought to the emergency unit
of a hospital - and classically
hovering above
the table, seeing the body on the table.
The special feature of this
particular case is that first time
in her life she could see - when she was dead!
Observing this frantic
activities of the doctors trying to
do the resuscitation. First she did not know it is her body
but as you can move in this condition
according to your will to some extent,
she moved to the hand hanging from the table
she recognized her wedding ring.
Therefore she understood it must be her body on the table.
But again, she did not stay very long and continued
into very spiritual kind of the heavenly
near-death experience which
she in this BBC Video commented like this:
"It is still very emotional thing
when I talk about this because there was a point
in which I could bring forth any knowledge I wanted to have
and it was like this place where all the knowledge Was
and then I was send back
and then I went back into my body and it was
excruciatingly painful and very heavy and I remember feeling
very sick." Just few words from Vicki
and we can feel the genuineness, the authenticity
of her deep spiritual experience. This is the reason why sometimes I put the
near-death experience of such an intensity
parallel or in juxtaposition with
and real enlightenment (of considerable intensity)
they are different, it is not possible to compare it
but the effect on the life
is similar, the life is changed.
But now coming to the final chapter
of this long explorative talk: near-death experiences -
what it is really? And
I would say, I would like to stay sober
throughout this exploration, not jumping
too quickly on any bias or any spiritual
believe, rather
at first to collect all the information available
and all the facts and trying to put it together
so that hopefully at the end it starts to make
a clear picture.
To start with: everybody is complaining about the fussiness of the term itself
"near-death experiences". I would recommend
three different distinct categories
dying experience, near-death experience
similar to near-death experience
and dying experience
really reserving it only for the cases
when there was an evident cardiac arrest,
there was no heartbeat, there was no blood circulation
and the report veridically, verifiably
comes from the time, when there was
clinical death. So, that would be the dying experience.
Real near-death experiences are extremely intensive,
clear experiences. They are not happening in the dying brain,
they even cannot happen in brain without fresh blood. They are happening in the
undocked mind. One example for that
I would take the case of
Stefan Jankovic, Stefan v. Jankovic
in Switzerland 1964
long time ago a horrible car crash
in high-speed he flew through the windshield
with his head. Everything broken,
blood everywhere. When the doctor finally arrived
the heart already stopped beating
so the doctor was trying resuscitation
put some injection into his arm - not helping, so
when he wanted to make the heart massage
he found out that the ribcage is broken so he couldn't do that
he declared him dead.
But also at that time arrived second doctor
perhaps he was living in the vicinity perhaps
he was one of the passengers - there was
a row of cars already and bystanders everywhere
so he came rushing and
talking shortly with the first doctor he checked
Stefan - declared also
clinically dead. So they were standing there
discussing a little bit the case and then the second doctor
came to the idea that he has adrenaline injection
in his emergency case so
why not to try. So he administered
an injection of adrenalin directly into the heart
of the body and the wonder happened after a while
the heart started to function, making pressure
so rapid transportation to the intensive unit
of the first hospital.
Now, probably this story is not quite unusual
what is unusual on this particular story
that Stefan was witnessing all that
hovering three meters over the scene
in this kind of
out-of-body condition - sometimes it is called the 5th dimension.
Sometimes people reporting
seeing everything from all sides at the same time
but actually what Stefan was
reporting, that he could actually
sense or feel the thoughts
of two bystanders as well, not only what was spoken there
that he was hearing that but even the thinking process of the
bystanders and
he noticed one religious lady
was praying actually: 'may all the sins
of this dying person be forgiven,
may he come to heaven'- and Stefan was
impressed by the wonderful act of compassion
and also he noticed the mental attitude of
another guy that he was rather critical
and angry sending negative thoughts towards that
what he was witnessing.
So, that's the special case that two doctors declared
clinical death and the report actually
of Stefan comes from that time - it is not
only veridical out-of-body experience
it's a dying experience. Some days later the 2nd doctor came
to visit Stefan in the hospital.
Stefan greeted him with a frown
'What have you done to me to call me back into this
soring body' - and actually Stefan wrote in his book
that the dying was the best experience of his life.
So,
very specific case, very special. Pam Reynolds?
No, I would not call her into this first category, into the second one
= near-death experiences. The characteristic of the second
category I would define as:
the life integrity is seriously endangered
and there is a story coming from that condition
but the heart is possibly working, the breath
can be added by ventilator, certainly a critical
condition, but there is the circulation
of blood. This is the significant difference between the first category and the
second one.
So, Pam Reynolds
because remembering that there was a discussion what she
actually reported between the doctor Spetzler
and the assisting doctor to connect probably the heart-lung
machine to pump the blood out of the system to cool the blood,
- possibly that
at that stage the heart was still working. So out of cautiousness
second category. But
her out-of body experience is 100%
veridical. She witnessed something
when the eyes were clearly taped
the auditory pathways were monitored by
electroencephalograph on the brainstem
- flat - so clear case.
Also the
doctor Cicoria,
second category. He was electrocuted
but who knows? Perhaps his heart was still beating
I don't know. So, out of cautiousness second category.
But a classical representation
of second category would be doctor Alexander,
Eben Alexander.
The special case or the special
feature of that case that he is
neuro-surgeon and he was with
serious meningitis - encephalitis
I don't know exactly the difference, swelling of the brain,
deadly, critical, so,
actually fully complying with the second category
but I think his heart was beating, he was in deep coma
seven days, big
near-death experience, quite popular
in books. To the second category
certainly belongs also coming
out of anesthesia (narcosis)
after operation, after the surgery the life integrity can be quite seriously in
question.
So people sometimes reporting near-death experience.
Into the second category
I would take also people falling
from cliff, the life integrity
is seriously endangered, I guess,
it fulfils the second category, but what they
are reporting is rather the
life review, the events of the life
rapidly flashing in front of their
mental eye. It's just one
element of a classical near-death experience, but why I am mentioning that
because the term "near-death experiences"
was coined to this
kind of experience in the end of nineteenth-century
so it's really very old
and needs revision, I guess. But
all the other cases I would put it into the third category
because this basically has nothing to do with a real near-death experience,
keeping it nicely way apart.
Seizures
it can be deadly, but usually not.
Another case of the third category:
extreme stress, you know, life integrity not in danger.
or extreme meditation - well,
perhaps the ego is dying, but life integrity no, no, no.
All the drug reports:
ketamine mmm very special
drug, actually used in medicine sometimes
because it has an anesthetic effect
there is a kind of a detachment
even from the feeling of self - so today it is usually taken as a party drug.
Sometimes like floating,
kind of an out-of-body, but forget it: this has nothing to do with the real
near-death experience. The atmosphere is completely different,
and the effect. The same with the pilots,
fighter pilots: sometimes they are making sharp turns
when they are on mission. So, in the training they are prepared in
a big centrifuge to be exposed to the surge of gravity
and they are actually going to 9 "G" =
nine times the gravitational pull
what we are experiencing on the surface of the earth
so they go nine times over. So everything
extremely heavy - of course, even the blood. So the heart cannot
pump it up to the brain.
So, pilots coming out of the centrifuge
on the verge of fainting, reporting strange things
but again, I was reading some of these,
far away from the atmosphere of near-death experience.
You know, if this would be near-death experience, so
I would qualify in that case as well. What happened to me?
In a long retreat in the mountains
there was a period of very well going,
very easily going practice. Sitting for a very long time, three-four hours,
feeling absolutely refreshed.
So from one of these sittings I stood up
abruptly: instantly fainting!
I collapsed. The same effect:
the pressure of the heart was adjusted
for the sitting position. When I stood up
so rapidly, so suddenly, of course,
the heart cannot change the pressure so quickly.
I went down, I was unconscious for a while
- which I don't remember. I remember
coming back when the mind started
to "re-dock", docking
again with the brain, with the psyche,
with the neurotic patterns of the mind
this heaviness, the limitations from this
free flowing of the free mind.
So,
yes, the mind can dock and undock.
Perhaps the fighter pilots can qualify as
a partial undocking, that's okay,
but don't put it into the category of near-death experiences.
And all the drug experiences:
actually, doctor Rick Strassman made
lots of experiments with DMT - dimethiltryptamine,
extremely strong and powerful psychedelic
hallucinogenic drug - onset
within seconds! and
because it was for a scientific research
he took only professional volunteers
with lots of experience with drugs
to have really valuable reports from them -
and perhaps two of them, of many,
have reported vaguely similar to
near-death experience, but the majority was
rather reporting encounters with completely different life forms
that was the majority
of these special trips, completely
different life entities, interacting with them -
that was the routine experience.
I even thought that perhaps Rick Strassman two of them has
overdosed - no,no,no, just thinking, just joking.
Similarly with the CO2 - all this kind of
cheap-shots from the sceptics, from the mainstream science materialists.
Drowning will hold
even on the halm of straw! You know,
muddying the water so that it is not clear.
CO2 that it causes near-death experience,
co2 in a bloodstream! People
in serious condition, life condition - probably the breathing is not working
well
so there is too much co2 in the bloodstream
you know, mixing the cause with the result.
So that too much
carbon dioxide in the bloodstream would be rather the result of the critical
condition
so enough with all this. Now
getting into the serious reflections
about near-death experiences – and again:
I would like to take a kind of a solid foundation what
we can rely on, or take quite some reference from that
and this time I would take the "Tibetan Book of death and dying"
"Bardo Thodol", many things coming from that.
It's an old literature, I read it some
thirty-five years ago, but I think the major
points I will remember correctly. First of all
"bardo" means transition,
the state of transition. So when the body dies, there is some time of a transition.
Theravada Buddhism would like
to put last conscious moment
"cuti" followed by the "patisandhi" which is the rebirth consciousness
of the next life - like an instant
following. But
I think more
suitable to speak about this transition state
in between which the "Bardo Thodol" is describing in
such colorful images. So, "bardo" meaning
transition, and the book is speaking about three
stages within that. Bardo of dying,
Bardo of Dharmata and Bardo of rebirth,
indicating that there is a kind of
development in that quite long
between-state. So that would be the next message,
and if you read if you remember the Bardo Thodol,
actually from the beautiful white light
of death, which the near-death experiencers are
describing with indescribable
beauty and nobility
and sublimity, wisdom, unconditional love -
all the superlatives, but then
the Bardo Thodol actually describes this stages it goes down.
In the Dharmata the first encounter is with the beautiful deities,
but then the wrathful, the fearful deities
and only then comes the Bardo of rebirth.
The Buddhist teachings are quite clear
that the rebirth in the same level
like again as a human, is extremely rare.
It's true that Bardo Thodol
declares that there is a possibility to exit
into next rebirth in any of these stages
and I think from the white light even
to exit to the Nirvana, or some
Tibetan teachings even take the white light to be Nirvana
or Rigpa - not really
in Theravada, Nirvana is not light,
certainly not. But certainly
very high spiritual state, clearly.
So, there is a development going down, you know, message
to all those near-death experiencers
who wants to die as soon as possible
again to experience this beauty -
be careful because the near-death
experience is just the beginning of the between state
and who knows how it goes after.
You know, take the case
of Howard Storm with
his stomach rupture, and he was dying of pain actually
late night in the hospital no surgeon,
so getting out of his body he was taken by beings
into the long corridor getting dark, getting darker
and hell, really, experienced hell.
So you know...
Next message
from Bardo Thodol appearing repeatedly in the text:
it is just projection,
it is just projection of your karma, so,
don't take it lightly because it's
serious, evidently, but it is just projection.
Very important message because that's also my understanding
that near-death experiences are projection of karma.
Perhaps the last thing which I would take from the Tibetans,
explaining that after the body dies
there is a kind of unconscious break
they say average is 2-3 days
when the mind
wakes up into this new condition in the Bardo-state
and everything is enhanced: the bliss
is much stronger than anything on the earth, the horror is stronger than
anything on the earth, the colors the feelings, everything's
more direct.
So, there is a gap and
this would explain why majority of people even with the cardiac arrest
doesn't remember anything, because
they were still in the gap, they came back before
the mind would wake up into the
in-between state. It's true
that occasionally we are having also
report of an almost seamless exit
from the body, real undocking
into the out-of-body experience.
Doctor Cicoria is one case.
Mickey Robinson - another case.
He was actually involved in
plane crash, dosed with kerosene, burning.
In the hospital dying of pain actually
of the burns and he said: 'like if you take
a glove off the hand' he was in the
spiritual world. Actually I would
turn it that the glove remained in the bed
and the hand would go into the spiritual world.
So, occasionally there is
almost no break, but I think, majority there is a break.
So, these are the things from the
Tibetan Book of Death. It's
an old literature, 14 century,
it seems that even in this
area there is a kind of a development.
The old religions
usually speak about a kind of judgment
and even some of the Asian or
Arabic near-death experiences really have this
kind of an atmosphere like to be sentenced by a tribunal
or at least being handled
quite bureaucratically.
The Indian traditions speak
often about God Yama,
God of death - Yama, weighting the
deeds: black stone for bad deeds,
white stone for good deeds on the scales
which will be more heavy that will be the destiny,
but if you take the Western near-death experiences, the majority
you know, this extremely beautiful
kind of peace - at least the beginning
of this afterlife,
between state. So, perhaps there is even some
development in that. Actually, what is this
judgment, these people would report as an
life review - again it is a kind of a review
of the events of the life, very quickly,
even doctor Cicoria
was reporting some, Stefan was reporting much more, about 2,000
his assessment 2000 rapidly flashing
pictures of the life situations. I would understand it
in the help of my analogy
with the computer: this is the time when the docking station with the periphery
is dying
the body with all the sensory organs and brain is dying.
So all that what was stored in the brain
(in the analogy that was the external hard disk)
all unresolved stuff is a karmic potential. The potential cannot just disappear
tracelessly. That's against the physics.
So it is the essence of the life,
unresolved life situations and deeds
that it is transferred as a kind of essence
into the storage of the notebook which survives.
Now it is a pure karmic potential
from the past life, kind of a
summary of the karma of the ending life.
Speaking
about the understanding of
death and rebirth in Buddhism, Buddhism has
actually the idea of an endless rebirth in different spheres
of existence - so
what is actually giving the direction of
the next rebirth? - Karma.
Karma activated in the time of dying.
So, it is not necessarily the whole karmic
package which can be quite..
containing probably everything, you know, through all this life,
the previous lives, all that, unresolved karma,
a lot of that - no, it is just the karma
activated in the time of dying
and there are four cases: "garuka karma" means
very strong karmic force. So, if you killed your parents
or killed a saint, that's the Garuka
karma which will influence the quality of your life
already on earth but even more after.
But Garuka karma can be also positive.
So, if you got Enlightenment, significant intensity
of Enlightenment it will certainly
influence the quality of your life already on the earth
but even more after. But this is not always the case
so, then there are two others:
death proximate karma or
habitual karma and the order is not really given because
rather what is stronger. Death proximate
the mental state, the memory which
came during dying can very well influence
the direction of the whole afterlife, of the rebirth.
or habitual karma
that what was done repeatedly during the life, accumulated strength
so it can very well influence the rebirth,
the direction of the rebirth. But then comes the fourth one
and that's the problem:
any karma, any unresolved karma can get
activated and that's the scary part of the whole thing
and that's what brought me to Buddhism.
The simile
for that is given with the cows, when the country man comes in the morning
open the fence: Which cow will
get first. So if there is a strong
bull - that's the Garuka karma.
But probably there isn't any
so then it is these two: either the cow which is the nearest
to the gate or the cow which habitually goes first.
But if this is not exactly the case, then
any of the cows - you know, here we are!
So this is the explanation in Buddhism.
Now talking about the different spheres
of existence or as I call it
the different frequencies of appearances
I have this
diagram, using that very often,
I think at least once I should
give credit to the authors of that:
designed by Sunanda Lim
compiled by Venerable Achara Suvanno Mahathera.
So it's a typical
list of worlds
the planes of existence, meaning
that all these frequencies
of existence are inhabited by beings.
These are worlds
actually, of beings. We are here,
we are quite low, still there are four
levels under the human ones, which
is understood as the spheres of misery
or great misery and
all that actually, above the human,
levels of devas or angels
this is the sphere of fine-materiality
the Gods, the Brahmas and the high devas,
and the immaterial spheres, the Arupa loka.
and so this is the understanding in Buddhism
this all are spheres of rebirth
the rebirth can go
actually, to any of these spheres
whatever, according to the activated karma
and here
in this diagram the spheres are actually
painted one over the other.
In my understanding I would
put quite some space in-between - for a quite good reason.
I would compare these spheres of existence
to the radio stations, you know, they are stations
which you can tune in and quite a lot of space in between
what is the characteristic of the radio
station?
All those who are tuned to the same frequency
are actually receiving the same kind of broadcasting,
the same like
all humans are interpreting the world
in a similar way: this is the table, this is the
tree, everybody agrees this is the house, this is a lake
and is this sky, you know, this is red, this is brown -
more-or-less everybody agrees with that.
So, that's because
all are tuned to the same frequency. So these would be like the
radio station shared by many
but there is evidently also in between state
which is the Bardo.
Actually, all these spheres except this
are spheres of nama-rupa. Nama
is mentality, rupa is materiality.
So in Buddhism we have two different types of phenomena.
All phenomena are empty - probably
today it would be rather defined as "virtual
realities", you know, spheres
of virtual realities.
But still, two types: mental
and 'material' phenomena. So Buddhism
would teach that all these spheres of beings,
all these worlds are just empty phenomena rolling.
But the phenomena
the existence and happening of these phenomena is real. Buddha
would never deny that. The beings
in this lower field are actually experiencing
their worlds exactly as we do
with this solid objects all around them
kind of a heavy solid materiality
all around them. In the blue
fine-material spheres the materiality is much more subtle
only shapes and
the immaterial spheres. Now, why I would put some space in between:
the state of Bardo
has not "solid" materiality
I would call it a "mental materiality": it is
a pure projection, there is not this kind
of solid materiality
which would obey to the law of physics,
mathematic, chemistry,
electricity, gravity, all that. That's the difference
that the beings of the particular sphere
are sharing material phenomena
which makes the whole sphere
somehow more static. When it is only
materiality made by mind, so
it is much more fluent, changeable. Here on earth when you
wake up in the morning you wake up to the same room you went
to sleep the day before. In this Bardo
between stage everything is changing
from minute to minute. So that would
explain
why the people in the near-death experiences
everybody is actually reporting something quite different
because the experience is completely individual
Certainly there may be some influence from
beings from the other side so to say which are
tuned to the same between-frequency, possible
but generally that's an area of
individual projection. This is again
quite a substantial central message
from this talk - better I'll take it from the paper.
When you examined the authentic
near-death experiences in Internet beside many heavenly, exalted, luminous ones
you will find also deeply horrifying hell
experiences. They are not so many, perhaps
in the relation 1 to 10 or
2 to 10, but my suspicion is
that the hell experiences are under-reported.
Quite understandably, because of the stigma
these people may get from there environment. Even if people don't believe
in the religion, there is still this background idea
that only bad people experience hell
which is evidently not true!
Examining these hell accounts carefully
beside a real disgust for the whole existence and rebirth
in Samsara, on top of that I got for a while
creepy feeling of apparent cosmic injustice.
In Buddhism, if you know the law of karma correctly,
you'll get a clearer understanding or even
assertion that there is a basic universal justice
but this justice or perhaps we should say rather
cosmic equilibrium - it works
only when we consider extremely long periods of time.
In a given cases -like
within one lifetime-
irregularities are quite possible.
Buddhism is teaching
conditionality: cause and effect, like for example
karma-vipaka relationship, meaning
things do not happen in our life just by chance
or coincidence. There are many references in the Scriptures
supporting this kind of fundamental universal justice.
Even for the direction of rebirth
the Buddha gave clear general metaphor: if stones
mixed with liquid butter are thrown into water
by nature the stones will go down
and the butter will go up. That was his simile illustrating the basic
function
of karma during rebirth. But
on other occasions Buddha also clearly declared
occasional irregularities. The Samsara
and karma are not a mechanical clockwork
not at all! If you study the different kinds of near-death experiences
quite possibly the difficult hellish reports
may reveal the nature of near-death experiences more clearly
then the exalted ones. It will become clear
that the form, the form (!) of the near-death experiences
is a mental fabrication, or better,
mental karma fabrication similar to
our dreams. You can feel
in these stories the typical dream language, this sudden changes of the
place and scene
without any logic, the emotional charge
in these stories, or, another element of the dream language,
substituting one thing by other thing,
etc. Bryan Melvin near-death experience is one of the most intensive
horrifying one. After such
a shock no wonder that after being
"saved" by Jesus in the end of his near-death experience
he became dedicated Christian evangelist.
The same Mickey Robinson
or Howard Storm. The hell
near-death experience of Howard Storm brought even the thought
to me, that the experienced horror may be linked in some way to the extreme
pain of his physical body. When the mind
undocks bodily pain instantly disappear,
logically, but if later the mind comes closer to the ailing body
and connects just a little bit, the intensive pain
may give rise to the hell imaginary in the mind.
But probably this explanation is not correct
because it doesn't fit to all of the hell stories.
You know, Howard Storm,
actually his stomach ruptured
and he suffered extreme pain, he was dying of pain actually
they could not find a surgeon, so he
got a very extended near-death experience - the horror one,
and again, in the end he was as if saved by divine beings.
Saartje's near-death experience
became hellish ominous - but even more so
when the police and the medic came, or even broke
into her room and she, in a state of a serious bodily distress,
woke up from her near-death experience into her body.
Again a kind of dream language interpretation
of the heavy situation. Police came in
and she was actually getting
this very ominous
end of her near-death experience. But
her experience was not that intensive as the other ones.
I have great respect and I am sending
great gratitude to all these people who came forward
and shared their difficult stories
but also I fully understand
all those, who did not come forward.
These highly colorful reports convincted me
that the form of near-death experiences stories
is a creation of the undocked
mind but on the other side
that the near-death experience phenomenon itself
is a highly important, often coded
encounter with deeper layers of one's own being
in other spiritual systems
often referred to as "higher self"
or "high self" or even
as an encounter with God or Jesus.
But if we consider
that the higher echelons of consciousness are actually interconnected
in direction of oneness, everything becoming one,
so even such an interpretation as
encounter with God or Jesus cannot be actually considered as
quite wrong. We should understand that a being,
a person, has many psychological, but even spiritual
layers, in Buddhist language we can say
many karma layers. I had somehow comparable encounter with
deeper layer of myself,
of my being, at the beginning
of my meditation practice. Therefore I can give my personal thoughts to that.
This very noble, very high
"instance" felt extremely superior
to the everyday little ego, it was not
really any "self" at all but it was something
like very advanced "instance"
in the very middle of my own being
or better: me "beingness",
extremely powerful,
in an advanced way extremely fatherly,
concerned fully with spiritual progress
of the much lower ego. It was not
more "me", it was above
that limitation, it was also clear
that this "instance" is able to arrange
anything in order to advance spiritual progress
of the given individual, far, far beyond
ego's typical concerns, worries
fears, pain and happiness.
Sometimes
even little bit like when you want to bring your
ailing dog to the veterinarian... But here we are coming to the central paradox
of the near-death experience phenomena: from the worldly perspective
near-death experience belong to the category of dreams
or mental projections, but as to their content,
intensity and significance they can be the most important,
decisive and pivotal event
in the existence of an individual.
Perhaps, when all this will become more clear,
then psychology will start to develop
kind of a "scientific religion"
to prevent people to have hell
experience when the body dies.
Speaking
about the middle of our own being: that was my first
image of rebirth and it is still the best
I have actually. In death
beings are released from their bodies,
leaving all behind, and they are coming to the center of their beingness
which they experience as the great white light of the death and dying,
but because there is still unresolved karma
the karma will bring them down into some next existence.
This was actually
my image that in dying the
stream of consciousness, the stream of mind
is coming into its own center interpreted as the white light
of the death, this enormous beauty
and knowledge and loving kindness - all these superlatives
but because there is still unresolved karma
the mind will fall down
into next existence, into next individual
mind and body, having another lifetime
leaving that again, dying again,
coming to the white light of the death again, but missing it again
falling into next rebirth, and again
another lifetime, sometimes missing the
white light by far, falling into next existence
and again until we learn
and we don't need to come anymore. One of the most simple and most beautiful
images
of the aim of all great spiritual systems
is the picture of the path towards
the center. The spiritual paths
are connecting us and bringing us to the center of our own
being. Some Buddhist systems
call it emptiness, you can call it fullness
it's the same: coming home.
We live in the outskirts in the periphery of our true beingness,
in a kind of exile and separation for very long time.
On the spiritual way we are putting aside
our attachments and merging in the vortex of presence.
The opening can happen in a click
but usually it is a long way
because we love our
prison.
So, I think with that I have actually explained majority
of the near-death experiences
disagreeing partially with everybody.
Certainly I disagree with the materialistic
understanding not-understanding of reality,
the psychological
kind of approach has much more to say
as I started, You know, this similarity
of the birth channel with the birth of the baby
to compare it with the tunnel and coming to the white light
no,no,no this is just a coincidental
kind of similarity. Meeting
the departed ones - there is absolutely no meaning in that
no, but the psychological explanation
has at least this phenomenon
of projection, psychology works a lot with projection
we are projecting our own material around us
that's very well-known and in a near-death experience really this is
something going on
a lot. So, certainly, psychology has little bit more to say
but I have little bit disagreement even with the spiritual
community
which takes quite often the life just
as a kind of dream, hallucination
a thought - actually
there was a movie "Jonathan Livingston Seagull"
some 35 years ago
has quite
touched me somewhere, and if you have seen it
the novel was written by Richard Bach
Neil Diamond made the music, and
the departed Jonathan gets the teaching
from Chang, I think, was then wise
seagull teaching him and the conversation
goes like this, Chang is explaining to him:
"your whole body from wing tip to wing tip
is nothing more than your thought itself
in a form you can see. Break the chains
of your thought and you break the chains
of your body too" - I don't agree with that.
The thoughts are not made of cells
molecules and atoms. Spiritual community
jumping on that kind of explanation
'everything is just a thought-form' - not really,
not everything. There are material phenomena
as well, Abhidhamma is very clear about it "nama-rupa"
nama is everything
conscious the consciousness and the mental factors,
but there are also rupa phenomena
which are not conscious and these are
the earth, water, fire, air – in Abhidhamma
understood as nothing material, please be careful,
these are only characteristics out of which
the mind creates the appearance on this material world
around us, not that there would be
anything substantial, hard, heavy
out there - that's our illusion
that's the world of appearances. According to this highest kind of
insight, highest kind of
truth or reality, these are only qualities.
It is like things are painted with different colors
in our mind.
I would compare it - what we know
quite, what is familiar to us, we know
that all the colors of the world are just combination
of three primary colors, we know that.
If you look on a television with a magnifying glass
you will see just 3 primary colors
and everything what appears on a television is
the admixture of three primary colors so similarly
our mind works with these
four elementary qualities
painting appearance
of the material world around us. That's Abhidhamma.
Do you think that in this the Buddhism and Abhidhamma went
too far, too far-fetched, too fantastic to be true?
Not at all, science knows these things long time ago, I told you already
in the beginning.
Listen what said one of the greatest physicists of modern time,
the central figure of quantum mechanics Niels Bohr
almost a century ago: "The common sense view of the world
in terms of objects that really exist
out there, independently of our observation
totally collapses in the face
of the quantum factor", quantum mechanic.
And Niels Bohr again:
"If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you
you haven't understood it yet." And I would say
if Buddhism hasn't profoundly shocked you
you haven't understood it yet! Einstein was never happy with quantum
theory
though he agreed that all its conclusion and axioms were
scientifically
perfectly correct but still, this is his kind of
defiance quote: "I like to think the moon
is there even if I am not looking at it."
According to Abhidhamma the moon is
not there when you don't watch it, but the moon is not there even if you
and many others are watching. According to
Abhidhamma there are only rupas - empty phenomena happening
that's all, that's the ultimate reality
of the moon. But
on the other side Einstein agreed
and admitted: "Reality is merely an illusion
although, very persistent one!"
good to know: he is here referring to our everyday sense of
reality. But more important than Einstein's thoughts
is he the quote from Eugene Wigner, the Nobel Prize scientist of the 20th
century:
"...the very study of the external world
led to the scientific conclusion
that the content of consciousness
is the ultimate universal reality."
content of consciousness
is the ultimate universal reality – and that science!
It sounds like a handshake
between science and Buddhism indeed. Do you remember the quote in the
beginning? Kalu Rinpoche?
"You live in illusion
and the appearance of things. There is reality,
you are that reality (your consciousness is the reality)
but you don't know it (you project it). When you understand this
you will see that you are nothing (there is not
a real you), and being nothing
you are everything (everything you can conceive
is just the content of your consciousness, you
are everything), and that's all."
- actually it this not all, because there is one more step
to accomplish: to free oneself from
all this appearances, illusions and hallucinations.
And now we are coming to the end
of this long, long talk. Do the pieces of the puzzle come together?
Are they starting to give a clearer picture now?
Can we perhaps even
answer this strange, creepy
question: is the heaven
and hell real? - well
what we can say with full certainty,
considering this great number
of near-death experiencers authentic reports,
what we can say with absolute certainty
that heaven
and hell happens. - - to whom?
to everybody? for how long?
how real? how intensive? - I leave it open.
I'll leave it to you to connect the dots
according to your sources of information
your own reflections, your beliefs.
Actually the Buddhism was never so much
concerned about the degree of
reality of - all of these
planes of existence.
It was always
somewhere around the teaching but
it was never really the central point. The real point of the teaching
of Buddha's concern was
always: the connected feelings
of happiness and sorrow, of bliss
and horror, that these feelings and emotions
are what they are. At this point usually
bringing an example of the bad ones: when we have a nightmare in the night
really horror, horror dream, waking up still full of fear
uuuff, it was only a dream, you know,
trying to shake it off. Only a dream?
really? So why is your pajamas sweat through?
if it was only a dream! You know,
this is the scary part of it, that during dreaming
this was your reality. So even
if all this, all this spheres actually
are just pure hallucinations, pure projections,
pure appearances, spheres of
dreams and appearances, the happiness and sorrow
is what it is.
Certainly, even according to Buddhist teachings to be reborn
in some of these high divine places
is a really very beautiful, noble
and blissful state of existence
but the real aim of Buddha's teaching is nowhere here
because Buddha was actually directing
the people who follow to full
awakening from all kinds of appearances and dreams and delusions and
illusions, to mature
the existence to the level of Nibbanic peace.
Nirvana - the blissful,
very, very sublime state of peace and freedom,
the liberation - so that we don't need to come again.
I like this picture. It is little bit like a symbolic portrait
of Samsara - the ever turning
self-sustaining perpetuum mobile of
all living and dying beings in the whole
Omniverse.
Is it beautiful?
Is it horrifying?
Unfortunately, it is both.