is what this session is about, which is called simplicity.

這場名為「簡單」的討論是要做什麼

And almost, I would almost call it being simple-minded,

而且，我甚至會稱這是場「頭腦簡單」的討論

but in the best sense of the word.

但是我是以最崇高的方式去解讀這句「簡單」

I'm trying to figure out two very simple things:

我一直在試著理解兩件很簡單的小事

how to live and how to die, period.

如何過活? 以及如何死亡? 就這樣。

That's all I'm trying to do, all day long.

整天就在想著這兩件事

And I'm also trying to have some meals, and have some snacks,

當然我也還是會吃飯，偶爾來些點心

and, you know, and yell at my children, and do all the normal things

對孩子咆哮，以及其他日常瑣事

that keep you grounded.

好讓我感覺日子踏實

So, I was fortunate enough to be born a very dreamy child.

我非常幸運，從小就愛做白日夢

My older sister was busy torturing my parents,

我的姐姐總是對爸媽疲勞轟炸

and they were busy torturing her.

我爸媽也同樣忙著折磨她

I was lucky enough to be completely ignored,

於是我在家中很幸運能被完全忽視

which is a fabulous thing, actually, I want to tell you.

這真的超棒的! 真的不騙你!

So, I was able to completely daydream my way through my life.

所以我整天做著我的白日夢

And I finally daydreamed my way into NYU, at a very good time, in 1967,

夢著夢著就夢進了紐約大學 -- 當時是1967年

where I met a man who was trying to blow up the math building of NYU.

我在那裡遇見了一個男人，他整天盤算著要炸掉數學大樓

And I was writing terrible poetry and knitting sweaters for him.

我則是一邊寫著糟糕的詩，一邊幫他織著毛衣

And feminists hated us, and the whole thing was wretched

女性主義者討厭我們，整個生活從一開始就讓人難受

from beginning to end.

直到最後

But I kept writing bad poetry, and he didn't blow up the math building,

但我還是繼續寫著很糟的詩詞，他當然沒炸毀數學大樓

but he went to Cuba.

卻去了古巴

But I gave him the money, because I was from Riverdale

旅費用的是我的錢，因為我來自里佛岱爾(Riverdale)區

so I had more money than he did.

所以理當比他寬裕些

(Laughter)

(笑聲)

And that was a good thing to help, you know, the cause.

這是件好事，你知道的，能夠贊助他

But, then he came back, and things happened,

不過，他回來之後，事情開始不同

and I decided I really hated my writing,

我開始受不了自己寫的那些東西

that it was awful, awful, purple prose.

寫得很差勁，華麗而空洞

And I decided that I wanted to tell --

我還是想說些...

but I still wanted to tell a narrative story

但我還是想說一段故事

and I still wanted to tell my stories.

關於我的故事

So I decided that I would start to draw. How hard could that be?

我想就用畫的吧。畫畫還能有多難?

And so what happened was that I started

於是我開始畫畫

just becoming an editorial illustrator through, you know,

我成為報章雜誌的插畫家，

sheer whatever, sheer ignorance.

真的是，真的是誤入歧途

And we started a studio.

我們成立了工作室

Well, Tibor really started the studio, called M&Co.

應該說，Tibor(講者的丈夫)成立了工作室，命名為M&Co

And the premise of M&Co was, we don't know anything,

在成立這個工作室之前，我們什麼都不懂

but that's all right, we're going to do it anyway.

不過沒關係，我們還是勇往直前

And as a matter of fact, it's better not to know anything,

事實上，一無所知反而比較好

because if you know too much, you're stymied.

知道太多反而會讓你裹足不前

So, the premise in the studio was,

所以這個工作室的初衷就是

there are no boundaries, there is no fear.

不設限，不畏懼

And I -- and my full-time job, I landed the best job on Earth,

我呢 -- 還有我的全職工作，我得到了全世界最棒的工作

was to daydream, and to actually come up with absurd ideas

那就是繼續做夢，想些異想天開的點子

that -- fortunately, there were enough people there,

幸好，也有很多人也像我一樣 --

and it was a team, it was a collective,

我們組成一個團隊，大家集思廣益

it was not just me coming up with crazy ideas.

而不只是我一個人想著那些怪誕的點子。

But the point was that I was there as myself, as a dreamer.

但重點是，我是以我個人，一個夢想家的角色參與工作室

And so some of the things -- I mean, it was a long history of M&Co,

所以有些事 -- 這其實是M&Co工作室的老歷史

and clearly we also needed to make some money,

而當然我們也必須賺錢

so we decided we would create a series of products.

我們決定設計一系列的產品

And some of the watches there,

例如這些手錶

attempting to be beautiful and humorous --

就是我們企圖讓設計兼具美感與樂趣 --

maybe not attempting, hopefully succeeding.

或許也並不只是憑空妄想，而是期待真的發揮效果 --

That to be able to talk about content,

才能思索設計的內涵是什麼

to break apart what you normally expect, to use humor and surprise,

才能打破既有的框架，運用點滴的趣味與驚喜

elegance and humanity in your work was really important to us.

成品本身的質感與人性，是我們非常重視的

It was a very high, it was a very impersonal time in design

當時普遍的設計，是非常缺乏人味的

and we wanted to say, the content is what's important,

我們想傳達的是，產品本身才是最重要的

not the package, not the wrapping.

而非包在外面的盒子和包裝紙

You really have to be journalists, you have to be inventors,

你必須成為一個抽絲剝繭的記者，一個突破創新的發明家

you have to use your imagination more importantly than anything.

你必須全心發揮你的想像力，不顧一切

So, the good news is that I have a dog

所以，好消息是，我有一隻狗

and, though I don't know if I believe in luck --

雖然我不確定自己是否相信運氣 --

I don't know what I believe in, it's a very complicated question,

我不知道自己究竟相信什麼，這問題很難解 --

but I do know that before I go away, I crank his tail seven times.

但我的確知道，每次在我出遠門之前，我都會晃晃牠的尾巴七次

So, whenever he sees a suitcase in the house,

所以牠看到家裡擺出了行李箱

because everybody's always, you know, leaving,

因為家中每個人總是時不時的出遠門

they're always cranking this wonderful dog's tail,

每個人也總是會在離開前晃晃牠可愛的尾巴

and he runs to the other room.

於是牠就會跑進其他房間躲起來。

But I am able to make the transition from working for children and --

我能自由穿梭、轉換角度，為兒童創作或 --

from working for adults to children, and back and forth,

在為成人以及為兒童創作之間反覆轉換

because, you know, I can say that I'm immature,

因為，我會認為那是因為，我是個很不成熟的人

and in a way, that's true.

某種程度來說，這也是事實

I don't really -- I mean, I could tell you that I didn't understand,

我並不 -- 我的意思是，我能篤定的告訴你，我無法聽懂 --

I'm not proud of it, but I didn't understand

我並沒有因此沾沾自喜，但我無法聽懂

let's say 95 percent of the talks at this conference.

這場論壇裡將近百分之95的演說

But I have been taking beautiful notes of drawings

但在聽講時，我還是畫下美麗的筆記

and I have a gorgeous onion from Murray Gell-Mann's talk.

我在聽Murray Gell-Mann(美國物理學家)的演講時，畫了一個絢麗的洋蔥

And I have a beautiful page of doodles from Jonathan Woodham's talk.

在Jonathan Woodham(英國設計史學家)的演講，我畫了一整頁美麗的塗鴉

So, good things come out of, you know, incomprehension --

所以，好事的降臨，總是出現在我們內心充滿問號的時刻 --

(Laughter)

(笑聲)

-- which I will do a painting of, and then it will end up in my work.

-- 那些時刻會讓我想要創作，最後就成為我的作品

So, I'm open to the possibilities of not knowing

所以，我對於自己的無知感到很自在

and finding out something new.

也同時找到新鮮的靈感

So, in writing for children, it seems simple, and it is.

為兒童創作好像是件很簡單的事，它確實是如此

You have to condense a story into 32 pages, usually.

一般而言，你必須在32頁以內塞進一個故事

And what you have to do is, you really have to edit down to what you want to say.

你往往需要從你原本想講的內容裡刪掉許多

And hopefully, you're not talking down to kids

你也希望講故事的語氣不要顯得高高在上

and you're not talking in such a way that you,

不要用這種說教的方式

you know, couldn't stand reading it after one time.

讓人讀過一遍後就不肯再碰那本書

So, I hopefully am writing, you know,

所以，我很希望自己寫的書

books that are good for children and for adults.

能讓孩童或是成人有些收穫

But the painting reflects --

但插畫觸發讀者內心投射的力量

I don't think differently for children than I do for adults.

就我看來，對孩子或對大人並無不同

I try to use the same kind of imagination, the same kind of whimsy,

我試著運用一樣的想像力，一樣的胡思亂想

the same kind of love of language.

一樣充滿愛的語言

So, you know, and I have lots of wonderful-looking friends.

所以-- 你們知道的，我有很多外貌姣好的朋友

This is Andrew Gatz, and he walked in through the door and I said,

這位是Andrew Gatz，他那時正要從門口進來

"You! Sit down there." You know, I take lots of photos.

「你，過來這邊坐好」然後我照了許多相片

And the Bertoia chair in the background is my favorite chair.

背景中那張Harry Bertoia(義大利家具設計師)設計的椅子，是我最喜歡的椅子

So, I get to put in all of the things that I love.

於是，我能夠把所有我熱愛的東西擺進畫框

Hopefully, a dialog between adults and children will happen on many different levels,

希望在各種不同的理解層次，促成孩子和大人之間的對話

and hopefully different kinds of humor will evolve.

希望擦撞出各種不同的趣味和火花

And the books are really journals of my life.

這些書都像日記一樣，紀錄著我的生命

I never -- I don't like plots.

我從不 -- 我不喜歡編劇情

I don't know what a plot means.

也不懂何謂劇情

I can't stand the idea of anything that starts in the beginning,

我無法忍受「任何事總要有個開頭」的想法

you know, beginning, middle and end. It really scares me,

你知道的，起承轉合，這些真令我害怕

because my life is too random and too confused,

因為我的生命充滿太多的變數與困惑

and I enjoy it that way.

而我很享受這樣的日子

But anyway, so we were in Venice,

總之，當時我在，我們當時在威尼斯

and this is our room. And I had this dream

這是我們的房間，我做了這樣的夢

that I was wearing this fantastic green gown,

夢中我身穿這件漂亮的綠色長禮服

and I was looking out the window,

望向窗外

and it was really a beautiful thing.

這真的很美

And so, I was able to put that into this story, which is an alphabet,

如此美麗的畫面，我才得以將它放進這個字母的故事(講者以字母為主題創作《What Pete Ate from A to Z》)

and hopefully go on to something else.

希望還會演變出其他的可能

The letter C had other things in it.

字母C還會有其他的故事

I was fortunate also, to meet the man who's sitting on the bed,

我也很幸運，能夠認識這位坐在床上的男子

though I gave him hair over here and he doesn't have hair.

雖然畫中的他頭髮茂密，實際上他是個禿頭

Well, he has some hair but -- well, he used to have hair.

恩...是有一些頭髮，不過...或者說，他的確「曾經」有頭髮

And with him, I was able to do a project that was really fantastic.

因為有他，我才能進行這個很棒的計畫

I work for the New Yorker, and I do covers, and 9/11 happened

我幫《紐約客》雜誌畫封面，接著911事件發生

and it was, you know, a complete and utter end of the world as we knew it.

對當時的我們來說，那就是世界末日

And Rick and I were on our way to a party in the Bronx,

當時，我和Rick (Meyerowitz) 正要前往參加位在布隆克斯區的派對

and somebody said Bronxistan,

我們談話中就迸出「布隆克斯坦」(Bronxistan) 這個新詞 (「-斯坦」為中東語系的常用字尾)

and somebody said Ferreristan,

還有「遠得要斯坦」(Fareerristan)

and we came up with this New Yorker cover,

就這樣，我們創造出這期《紐約客》的封面

which we were able to -- we didn't know what we were doing.

我們能...我們沒有意識到自己在創作的是什麼

We weren't trying to be funny, we weren't trying to be --

我們無意要搞笑，我們也不是打算...

well, we were trying to be funny actually, that's not true.

不，應該說我們本來只打算搞笑

We hoped we'd be funny, but we didn't know it would be a cover,

我們希望它很有趣，卻沒預料到它會成為封面

and we didn't know that that image, at the moment that it happened,

我們也沒預料到，當它登上封面時

would be something that would be so wonderful for a lot of people.

會這麼受到大家的歡迎

And it really became the -- I don't know, you know,

而且成為...我不確定該怎麼形容

it was one of those moments people started laughing at what was going on.

人們開始能夠幽默看待這次的事件

And from, you know, Fattushis, to Taxistan to, you know,

從「黎巴嫩沙拉區(Fattushis)」到拉瓜地亞機場旁的「小黃斯坦(Taxistan)」

for the Fashtoonks, Botoxia, Pashmina, Khlintunisia, you know,

「臭氣沖天區(Fashtoonks)」、「肉毒桿菌區(Botoxia)」、「喀什米爾披肩區(Pashmina)」、「柯林頓辦公區(Khlintunesia)」等等

we were able to take the city

我們將這座城市的各個地區

and make fun of this completely foreign, who are -- what's going on over here?

用模擬中東語調的方式命名，幽默地傳達這個地區的特色是什麼

Who are these people? What are these tribes?

住著什麼樣的人，屬於什麼樣的族裔

And David Remnick, who was really wonderful about it,

David Remnick(美國作家、編輯)對這個概念也感到很有趣

had one problem. He didn't like Al Zheimers,

但只有一點存疑：他覺得「阿茲海默區(Al Zheimers)」的名稱不洽當

because he thought it would insult people with Alzheimer's.

他覺得，那可能會讓實際患有失智症(阿茲海默症)的人們感覺被冒犯

But you know, we said, "David, who's going to know?

但我們跟他說：「他們有誰會記得這件事呢?」

They're not."

他們不會記得的

(Laughter)

(笑聲)

So it stayed in, and it was, and, you know, it was a good thing.

所以我們還是留下它，完成了一幅有趣的作品

You know, in the course of my life, I never know what's going to happen

無論是在哪個人生階段，我永遠無法預期下一刻會發生什麼

and that's kind of the beauty part.

這也是生命的美好之處

And we were on Cape Cod, a place, obviously, of great inspiration,

我們曾在鱈魚角待過一陣子，那裡充滿啟發和想像

and I picked up this book, "The Elements of Style," at a yard sale.

我在某次車庫二手拍賣找到了一本書，《英文寫作指南》

And I didn't -- and I'd never used it in school,

我從沒在求學期間翻過它

because I was too busy writing poems, and flunking out,

因為當時我忙著寫詩，還被退學

and I don't know what, sitting in cafes.

坐在咖啡店裡無所事事

But I picked it up and I started reading it and I thought, this book is amazing.

但當我拿起這本書開始閱讀，我領略到它的驚奇

I said, people should know about this book.

我認為，每個人都該知道這本書才對

(Laughter)

(笑聲)

So I decided it needed a few -- it needed a lift, it needed a few illustrations.

我覺得它可以用更好的方式呈現，它可以搭配一些插畫

And basically, I called the, you know, I convinced the White Estate,

於是我打給作者E. B. White的代理人 ，並且試著說服他

and what an intersection of like, you know,

電話的另一頭是

Polish Jew, you know, main WASP family. Here I am, saying,

一位波蘭裔猶太人，來自白人精英家庭。於是我說

I'd like to do something to this book.

我想為這本書加些什麼

And they said yes, and they left me completely alone,

他們同意了，就完全讓我自由發揮

which was a gorgeous, wonderful thing.

我難以形容當時有多興奮

And I took the examples that they gave,

我將作者在書中所舉的例子畫成圖

and just did 56 paintings, basically.

差不多是56幅

So, this is, I don't know if you can read this.

而這幅..我不確定你們能不能讀得到字

"Well, Susan, this is a fine mess you are in."

「蘇珊，妳站在一團混亂裡」

And when you're dealing with grammar,

當你在學習文法時

which is, you know, incredibly dry,

一般是很枯燥乏味的

E.B. White wrote such wonderful, whimsical -- and actually, Strunk --

E.B. White用逗趣的方式...實際上是William Strunk, Jr.(另一位作者，White的老師)

and then you come to the rules and, you know,

你認識到那些規則，你知道的

there are lots of grammar things. "Do you mind me asking a question?

文法的規則多如牛毛：「你方便我問問題嗎？」(Do you mind me asking a question? 非正式文法)

Do you mind my asking a question?"

「你方便讓我問個問題嗎？」(Do you mind my asking a question? 正確文法)

"Would, could, should, or would, should, could."

「將要、能夠、應當」(Would, could, should)，或是「將要、應當、能夠」(would, should, could)

And "would" is Coco Chanel's lover, "should" is Edith Sitwell,

would就像是可可·香奈兒的情人，should是伊迪絲·西特韋爾(Edith Sitwell，英國詩人)

and "could" is an August Sander subject.

could則是奧古斯特．桑德(August Sander，德籍攝影師)的精神

And, "He noticed a large stain in the center of the rug."

這幅是「他發現地毯中央的一個大污點」

(Laughter)

(笑聲)

So, there's a kind of British understatement, murder-mystery theme

這是以英式的輕描淡寫，描述秘密謀殺案的現場

that I really love very much.

我很喜歡這樣的場景

And then, "Be obscure clearly! Be wild of tongue in a way we can understand."

「請清楚地表達那些晦澀的句子！在我們的理解範圍內，盡情放縱你的言語。」

E.B. White wrote us a number of rules,

E.B. White為我們列的許多規則中

which can either paralyze you and make you loathe him

某些很可能會冗贅、麻煩到讓你從此討厭這個作者

for the rest of time, or you can ignore them, which I do,

或者你也可以像我一樣，忽視這些囉嗦的規則

or you can, I don't know what, you know, eat a sandwich.

或是你也可以，我不知道，也許吃個三明治打發過去。

So, what I did when I was painting was I started singing,

我的作法是，我一邊畫畫時，也一邊哼著歌

because I really adore singing,

因為我真的很喜歡唱歌

and I think that music is the highest form of all art.

我認為音樂是最崇高的藝術形式

So, I commissioned a wonderful composer, Nico Muhly,

所以，我委託優秀的作曲家Nico Muhly幫忙

who wrote nine songs using the text,

他用書中的文字，寫了九首歌

and we performed this fantastic evening of --

我們在這個美妙的夜晚，演奏了...

he wrote music for both amateurs and professionals.

他的音樂雅俗共賞

I played the clattering teacup and the slinky

我敲擊茶杯和螺旋彈簧玩具(slinky)來演奏

in the main reading room of the New York Public Library,

在紐約公共圖書館內最大的閱覽室

where you're supposed to be very, very quiet,

那裡原本是個肅靜的空間

and it was a phenomenally wonderful event,

卻成就了一場令人驚豔的演出

which we hopefully will do some more.

讓我們期待能有更多的嘗試

Who knows? The New York TimesSelect, the op-ed page,

誰預料得到呢? 紐約時報線上選集的論壇專頁

asked me to do a column, and they said, you can do whatever you want.

邀請我設立一個專欄，並且毫不設限地任由我發揮

So, once a month for the last year,

所以在過去的一年內，

I've been doing a column called "The Principles of Uncertainty,"

我每月發表一次專欄，名為「測不準原理」

which, you know, I don't know who Heisenberg is,

我並不了解海森堡(德國物理學家，提出測不準原理)的成就

but I know I can throw that around now. You know,

但我知道我還是能夠借用它的名氣

it's the principles of uncertainty, so, you know.

畢竟這是「測不準原理」，所以

I'm going to read quickly -- and probably I'm going to edit some,

我要快速地讀過 -- 也許我會修改一些字句

because I don't have that much time left -- a few of the columns.

因為時間所剩不多 --讀一部分我的專欄文章

And basically, I was so, you know, it was so amusing,

基本上我一開始真的是...當時真的很好笑

because I said, "Well, how much space do I have?"

因為那時我問「我的專欄有哪些限制?」

And they said, "Well, you know, it's the Internet."

他們回答「你知道的，這專欄是在網路發布的」

And I said, "Yes, but how much space do I have?"

我說「對，但是我的專欄究竟有哪些限制?」

And they said, "It's unlimited, it's unlimited."

他們說「沒有限制，沒有限制。」