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  • I'd like to talk to you today

    譯者: Bert Chen 審譯者: Ekaterina Saraeva

  • about a whole new way to think about sexual activity

    今天 我想和大家談談

  • and sexuality education, by comparison.

    如何用一個全新的角度 去思考性活動

  • If you talk to someone today in America

    和性教育 兩者相比

  • about sexual activity,

    如果在美國 今天你和某人談論

  • you'll find pretty soon you're not just talking

    有關性活動的事情

  • about sexual activity.

    你很快就會發現 你不只是在聊

  • You're also talking about baseball.

    性活動

  • Because baseball is the dominant cultural metaphor

    你們可能還會聊到棒球

  • that Americans use to think about

    因為棒球是一種主流文化喻象

  • and talk about sexual activity,

    美國人會想到

  • and we know that because there's

    聊天談到性生活時

  • all this language in English

    我們會知道是因為

  • that seems to be talking about baseball

    在英文裡 所有這種言語

  • but that's really talking about sexual activity.

    都聽起來好像是在講棒球

  • So, for example, you can be a pitcher or a catcher,

    但是其實都是在談論性活動

  • and that corresponds to whether you

    舉個例子 你是位投手或是捕手

  • perform a sexual act or receive a sexual act.

    但其實在比喻

  • Of course, there are the bases,

    你是主動方還是被動方

  • which refer to specific sexual activities

    當然說上了幾壘這種就更不用說了

  • that happen in a very specific order,

    每一壘都代表特定的性活動進度

  • ultimately resulting in scoring a run

    發生在一個非常特定的順序

  • or hitting a home run,

    最後就是要跑回本壘得分

  • which is usually having vaginal intercourse

    或轟出一支全壘打

  • to the point of orgasm,

    那通常指的是發生第一次性行為

  • at least for the guy.

    就有高潮

  • (Laughter)

    至少男的會有

  • You can strike out, which means

    (笑聲)

  • you don't get to have any sexual activity.

    你也可能被三振出局 意思是

  • And if you're a benchwarmer,

    你沒有進行任何性活動

  • you might be a virgin or somebody who for

    如果你是一位板凳球員

  • whatever reason isn't in the game,

    那可能表示 你是一位處男、處女

  • maybe because of your age or because of your ability

    或是一位與這場無關的人

  • or because of your skillset.

    可能是因為你的年紀或能力

  • A bat's a penis,

    或是因為你的技巧

  • and a nappy dugout is a vulva, or a vagina.

    球棒指的是男性生殖器

  • A glove or a catcher's mitt is a condom.

    球員休息區則是指女性陰唇或陰道

  • A switch-hitter is a bisexual person,

    手套或是捕手套就是保險套

  • and we gay and lesbian folks play for the other team.

    如果說一個人能夠左右開弓 意思是他是一位雙性戀者

  • And then there's this one:

    不管是男同志還是女同志

  • "if there's grass on the field, play ball."

    還有一句話是這麼說的

  • And that usually refers to

    『只要球場上有草,就可以打球了』

  • if a young person, specifically often a young woman,

    這通常是指

  • is old enough to have pubic hair,

    如果一位年輕人 通常指的是年輕女性

  • she's old enough to have sex with.

    她的年紀已經夠大 開始會長陰毛

  • This baseball model is incredibly problematic.

    也表示她已經到適當年紀 可以與他人有性行為

  • It's sexist. It's heterosexist.

    拿棒球來比喻「性」會造成非常多問題

  • It's competitive. It's goal-directed.

    這種比喻是性別主義 是異性戀主義

  • And it can't result in healthy sexuality

    具有競爭意味 而且是目標導向

  • developing in young people or in adults.

    這種比喻方式無法導致

  • So we need a new model.

    讓年輕人或成人發展健康的性活動

  • I'm here today to offer you that new model.

    所以我們需要一個新的模範

  • And it's based on

    今天我在這裡就是要給大家看看新的模組

  • pizza.

    這是以

  • Now pizza is something that is universally understood

    披薩為模組

  • and that most people associate with a positive experience.

    現在人人都知道披薩

  • So let's do this.

    並且大多數人對披薩都有正向經驗

  • Let's take baseball and pizza and compare it

    所以我們來試試看

  • when talking about three aspects of sexual activity:

    我們拿棒球和披薩來比較一下

  • the trigger for sexual activity,

    談到性活動的三個面向的時候

  • what happens during sexual activity,

    性活動的觸發點

  • and the expected outcome of sexual activity.

    在從事性活動的時候

  • So when do you play baseball?

    以及希望性活動帶來的結果

  • You play baseball when it's baseball season

    所以你在打棒球的時候?

  • and when there's a game on the schedule.

    你會在球季開始的時候打棒球

  • It's not exactly your choice.

    有一場排定的比賽的時候

  • So if it's prom night or a wedding night

    你無法選擇

  • or at a party or if our parents aren't home,

    所以如果是舞會之夜或婚禮之夜

  • hey, it's just batter up.

    或是在派對上或如果我們的父母不在家

  • Can you imagine saying to your coach,

    我們就準備來翻雲覆雨

  • "Uh, I'm not really feeling it today,

    你能想像一下 對你的教練說

  • I think I'll sit this game out."

    我今天狀態不太好

  • That's just not the way it happens.

    我想我還是不要上場比賽

  • And when you get together to play baseball,

    事情不是這樣子的

  • immediately you're with two opposing teams,

    你們在一起打棒球的時候

  • one playing offense, one playing defense,

    馬上就要分成兩隊

  • somebody's trying to move deeper into the field.

    一邊扮演進攻方 另一邊扮演防守方

  • That's usually a sign to the boy.

    有人想試著更深入球場

  • Somebody's trying to defend people moving into the field.

    那通常是指的是男生

  • That's often given to the girl.

    有人試著防守不讓人進入

  • It's competitive.

    通常指的是女生

  • We're not playing with each other.

    競爭非常激烈

  • We're playing against each other.

    我們不是在玩

  • And when you show up to play baseball,

    我們是在互相對抗

  • nobody needs to talk about what we're going to do

    你要去打棒球的時候

  • or how this baseball game might be good for us.

    大家都知道我們要做什麼

  • Everybody knows the rules.

    這場球賽對我們有什麼好處

  • You just take your position and play the game.

    大家都知道規則

  • But when do you have pizza?

    你就只要站好你的位置 開始比賽

  • Well, you have pizza when you're hungry for pizza.

    但是你什麼時候會去吃披薩?

  • It starts with an internal sense, an internal desire, or a need.

    當然是在你非常想吃披薩的時候 你就會去吃披薩

  • "Huh. I could go for some pizza."

    這是源自於一種內在的感受、欲望或是需求

  • (Laughter)

    我想去吃披薩

  • And because it's an internal desire,

    (笑聲)

  • we actually have some sense of control over that.

    因為這是一種內在的欲望

  • I could decide that I'm hungry

    事實上我們有些許控制感 想去控制內在欲望

  • but know that it's not a great time to eat.

    我可以決定 我很餓

  • And then when we get together with someone for pizza,

    但我知道現在還不到吃飯的時候

  • we're not competing with them,

    我們跟他人一起去吃披薩的時候

  • we're looking for an experience

    我們不是在跟他們競爭

  • that both of us will share

    我們是在尋找一種經驗

  • that's satisfying for both of us,

    讓我們兩個能夠共同分享

  • and when you get together for pizza with somebody,

    同時滿足我們雙方

  • what's the first thing you do?

    我們跟某人一起去吃披薩的時候

  • You talk about it.

    第一件事你會做什麼?

  • You talk about what you want.

    你會討論要吃那種披薩

  • You talk about what you like.

    你會說出你的需求

  • You may even negotiate it.

    你會談到你喜歡什麼東西

  • "How do you feel about pepperoni?" (Laughter)

    你甚至可能會忽略它

  • "Not so much, I'm kind of a mushroom guy myself."

    你覺得義式香腸好不好吃?(笑聲)

  • "Well, maybe we can go half and half."

    感覺還好 我個人比較喜歡吃洋菇

  • And even if you've had pizza with somebody

    也許我們可以各來一點

  • for a very long time,

    即使你跟某人一起吃披薩

  • don't you still say things like,

    已經有一段很長的時間

  • "Should we get the usual?"

    難道妳不會說這種話 就像是

  • (Laughter)

    我們應該常吃嗎?

  • "Or maybe something a little more adventurous?"

    (笑聲)

  • Okay, so when you're playing baseball,

    或者做一些更有冒險感覺的事情

  • so if we talk about during sexual activity,

    好 所以你在打棒球的時候

  • when you're playing baseball,

    所以我們在從事性活動的時候 談到棒球

  • you're just supposed to round the bases

    你在打棒球的時候

  • in the proper order one at a time.

    你只要去跑壘

  • You can't hit the ball and run to right field.

    在一定的順序之下 一次上一壘

  • That doesn't work.

    你不能擊球

  • And you also can't get to second base and say,

    那樣沒用

  • "I like it here. I'm going to stay here."

    你也不能跑到二壘 說

  • No.

    我喜歡在這裡 我想待在這裡

  • And also, of course, with baseball, there's, like,

    不行

  • the specific equipment and a specific skill set.

    當然 說到棒球 當然有

  • Not everybody can play baseball. It's pretty exclusive.

    特定的裝備和技巧組合

  • Okay, but what about pizza?

    不是每個人都可以打棒球

  • When we're trying to figure out what's good for pizza,

    好 但是披薩呢?

  • isn't it all about what's our pleasure?

    我們試著要了解披薩有什麼好吃的時候

  • There are a million different kinds of pizza.

    這不都與我們的意願有關嗎?

  • There's a million different toppings.

    有一百萬種不同的披薩

  • There's a million different ways to eat pizza.

    有一百萬種不同的配料

  • And none of them are wrong. They're different.

    有一百萬種不同的披薩吃法

  • And in this case, difference is good,

    都沒有錯 他們都不一樣

  • because that's going to increase the chance

    就這個例子而言 有差異是件好事

  • that we're having a satisfying experience.

    因為這將能夠增加機會

  • And lastly, what's the expected outcome of baseball?

    讓我們有個滿意的經驗

  • Well, in baseball, you play to win.

    最後這場棒球賽期望的結果是什麼?

  • You score as many runs as you can.

    在棒球領域而言,你打棒球是為了要獲勝

  • There's always a winner in baseball,

    你盡可能多跑壘得分

  • and that means there's always a loser in baseball.

    打棒球的時候 一定會有贏家

  • But what about pizza?

    也就是說 也會有輸家

  • Well, in pizza, we're not really --

    但披薩呢?

  • there's no winning. How do you win pizza?

    就披薩而言 我們不是真的

  • You don't. But you do look for,

    這方面沒有輸贏 你要怎麼贏得披薩?

  • "Are we satisfied?"

    你沒辦法 但是你會去找披薩

  • And sometimes that can be different amounts

    我們滿意嗎?

  • over different times or with different people

    有時候 我們吃的數量會不一樣

  • or on different days.

    次數不一樣 或是跟不同人一起吃

  • And we get to decide when we feel satisfied.

    或是在不同日子

  • If we're still hungry, we might have some more.

    我們必須決定我們什麼時候覺得滿意

  • If you eat too much, though,

    如果我們還很餓 可能就多吃一點

  • you just feel gross.

    如果你吃太多

  • (Laughter)

    你只會覺得想吐

  • So what if we could take this pizza model

    (笑聲)

  • and overlay it on top of sexuality education?

    所以假使我們拿這個披薩模組

  • A lot of sexuality education that happens today

    套用在性教育上

  • is so influenced by the baseball model,

    今日許多性教育

  • and it sets up education that can't help

    都深受棒球模組的影響

  • but produce unhealthy sexuality in young people.

    以這種模組建立起的教育

  • And those young people become older people.

    不得不對年輕人產生不健康的性活動

  • But if we could create sexuality education

    讓那些年輕人的思想變得更老化

  • that was more like pizza,

    但是如果我們能創造出一套性教育方式

  • we could create education that invites people

    更像是披薩譬喻的方法

  • to think about their own desires,

    我們創造出一套教育方法 邀請民眾

  • to make deliberate decisions about what they want,

    思考他們自己的性欲

  • to talk about it with their partners,

    經過深思熟慮做下他們想要的決定

  • and to ultimately look for

    跟他們的父母談談「性」

  • not some external outcome

    最後

  • but for what feels satisfying,

    不是要尋找外部結果

  • and we get to decide that.

    而是要尋找怎樣會讓我們覺得滿意

  • You may have noticed

    我們必須決定

  • in the baseball and pizza comparison,

    你們可能已經注意到

  • under the baseball, it's all commands.

    在棒球和披薩的比較之下

  • They're all exclamation points.

    在棒球領域 都是命令的方式

  • But under the pizza model, they're questions.

    他們都是驚嘆號

  • And who gets to answer those questions?

    但是在披薩模組 他們都是問號

  • You do. I do.

    誰會回答這些問題呢?

  • So remember, when we're thinking about

    你會 我也會

  • sexuality education and sexual activity,

    所已請記得 當我們想到

  • baseball, you're out.

    性教育 性活動

  • Pizza is the way to think about healthy,

    棒球的時候 你就出局了

  • satisfying sexual activity,

    披薩是一種方式 思考健康

  • and good, comprehensive sexuality education.

    令人滿意的性活動

  • Thank you very much for your time.

    和適當且具廣泛性的性教育

  • (Applause)

    謝謝大家

I'd like to talk to you today

譯者: Bert Chen 審譯者: Ekaterina Saraeva

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