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Well, often times
嗯,很多時候
Business Education today, and I see it all the time
今天的商業教育,我經常看到這樣的情況
Kids come out of college, the best colleges
孩子們走出大學,最好的大學
Wharton and Harvard and Stanford and some of the great business schools and
沃頓大學 哈佛大學 斯坦福大學和一些偉大的商學院和。
they'll come out and they won't have practical experience.
他們會出來,他們不會有實踐經驗。
There's too many case studies that aren't practical.
有太多不實用的案例分析。
You know, we ask kids that are 16 to 18 years old to make
你知道,我們要求16到18歲的孩子們,使
$100,000 debt decisions when they go off to
10萬元的債務決定時,他們去了。
University, and they are not prepared for that. They don't know
大學,他們還沒有做好準備。他們不知道
what they're getting themselves into, they just assume 'Okay, I'm gonna pay four years of education at twenty-five thousand a pop and
他們正在讓自己進入, 他們只是假設'好吧,我要去支付四年的教育 在25000彈和。
when I come out the other side somehow I'll be able to pay it back'.
當我從另一邊出來的時候,我就會以某種方式來償還它。
Reporter: Right.
記者:對。
That's not how life works anymore.
這不是生活的方式了。
There's no need even to have a college degree.
甚至不需要有大學學歷。
At all. We're in high school-
根本沒有我們是高中生
I mean, if somebody graduated from a great university, that may be an
我的意思是,如果有人從一個偉大的大學畢業,這可能是一個。
indication that they will be capable of great things, but it's not necessarily the case
大有可為,但也不一定
you know, if you look at
你知道,如果你看
say, people like Bill Gates or Larry Ellison, Steve Jobs
比如比爾-蓋茨、拉里-埃裡森、喬布斯等人
these guys didn't graduate from college but
這些傢伙沒有從大學畢業,但
if you had a chance to hire them, of course that would be... a good idea. [laughs]
如果你有機會聘請他們, 當然,這將是... 一個好主意。一個好主意。 [笑]
I think having the flexibility
我覺得有靈活性
to explore a lot of different things
探討很多不同的事情
which you can do when you're in college
你可以做,當你在大學的時候,你可以做
which is one of the amazing things about being in college is
這是一個驚人的事情 關於在大學是
you can work on all these hobbies
你可以在這些愛好上做文章
and encode a lot of stuff and try a lot of different things. It's this amazing
並對很多東西進行編碼,嘗試很多不同的東西。這是這個驚人的
flexibility that I think most people take for granted
靈活性,我想大多數人都認為這是理所當然的
and once you decide
而一旦你決定
'Okay, I'm gonna start a company and I'm gonna do it with someone else',
'好吧,我要開個公司,我要和別人一起幹'。
you immediately now need to convince someone else if you want to change your mind on something, and
如果你想改變主意的話,你現在馬上就需要說服別人,而。
I think people really undervalue the option value and flexibility.
我覺得大家真的低估了期權的價值和靈活性。
I think explore what you want to do before committing is really like, the key thing and
我認為探索你想做什麼之前承諾是真的喜歡,關鍵的事情和
keep yourself flexible.
保持自己的靈活性。
Interviewer: [chuckles]
採訪者:[笑聲]
No, I think that that's...
不,我認為那是... ...
Interviewer: Yeah, I agree.
採訪者:是的,我同意。
I mean, it's actually kind of funny like-
我的意思是,它實際上是一種有趣的喜歡 -
you know, if you think like 'what is education',
你知道,如果你覺得 "什麼是教育"。
like you're basically downloading data and algorithms into your brain
就像你把數據和算法下載到你的大腦裡一樣。
and
和
it's actually
其實
amazingly bad in conventional education
隔行如隔山
'cause like it shouldn't be like this huge tour
"因為它不應該像這個巨大的巡演
If someone is standing up there kind of lecturing at people
如果有人站在那裡對人說教的話
and They've done the same lecture Twenty Years in a Row and They're not Very Excited about It and
他們也做過同樣的講座《連續20年》,但他們對此並不十分興奮,而且。
In fact i think a Lot of Thing People Learn It probably There's no point in learning them Because
事實上,我認為很多事情的人學習它可能是沒有意義的,學習他們因為
It that They never use them in the future because the like Kids Just in school Kinda Puzzled as to why they're there i think
他們以後再也不用他們了,因為像孩子們一樣,只是在學校裡,我想他們為什麼會在那裡,有點困惑。
The People Who are doing the work that we care about are
做我們關心的工作的人是...。
Figuring Out What to do next not following the person who told them what to do next and the problem with most
想好了下一步該做什麼,不跟著告訴他們下一步該做什麼的人走,大多數人的問題就在於
Colleges Is They are high school But with more binge Drinking
大學是他們是高中,但更多的暴飲暴食。
The entire purpose of a Good University Is to give you a Foundation to fail
好大學的全部目的就是給你打下失敗的基礎
Not a foundation to get an a and if You graduate from college with straight A's you have to do some serious soul-Searching?
不是一個基礎,以獲得一個A,如果你從大學畢業,直接A的你必須做一些嚴重的靈魂搜索?
As to why you chose to spend your time doing that a student's Work for the b students
至於你為什麼選擇花時間去做那個a學生的b學生的工作?
The C students Run The Businesses and that These students dedicate The Buildings it's like The Newspaper Industry
C類學生經營的企業,這些學生奉獻的建築,就像報業一樣。
Write more printing presses more Big Buildings write Makes this look
寫更多的印刷機更多的大建築寫讓這個樣子。
Grander We Have Brains That we're putting them Out there there's There's a Point of diminishing
我們的大腦越大,我們把它們放在外面,就會有一個減少點
returns in Terms of
迴歸的條款
What it's worth for a college Education and
大專學歷值多少錢和
How much Debt you're Willing to sell Yourself with a Lot of People file a Lot of People are following
負債多少你願意賣自己與很多人檔案很多人都在關注。
if Not we'd have problems we Have too many Entrepreneurs we have too Many Successful people look how many People Go through Business Classes iF
如果不這樣做,我們就會有問題 我們有太多的企業家,我們有太多的成功人士,看看有多少人通過商業課程iF
Everything You Needed Was in that Actual Business class in that book
你所需要的一切都在那本書中的實際業務課上。
it'd be too Many Successful Business People Right How many People graduate
那就太多成功的商人了吧 有多少人畢業了?
Matter of Fact the professor
事實上,教授
Wouldn't have The time to sit there and teach you
我沒有時間坐在那裡教你了
He knows this book Damn near Broke a them page by page he knows all right cuz he be entrepreneur he too busy i'm
他知道這本書,幾乎要把他們一頁一頁撕碎了 他知道得一清二楚,因為他是個企業家,他太忙了,我...
Too i'm doing Way
我也在做的方式
Too Much Right Now cuz i got the palm trees and
太多了,現在,因為我得到了棕櫚樹和。
We do It we Sell It so much Right Stuff that I'm doing that i ain't quite got time to teach
我們做了,我們賣了,我做了這麼多正確的事情,我沒有時間去教書。
and so when You walk into a Boardroom
所以當你走進會議室的時候
With a Bunch of Guys in suits who all went to college you're fine
有一群西裝革履的人,他們都上過大學,你就可以了。
Yeah i Mean Because They Read a bunch of Words I've Lived a Bunch of life
是的,我的意思是,因為他們讀了一堆字,我已經過了一堆生活。
That Self-Esteem From Seriously I Mean Most My mom first and Foremost
那份自尊心來自於認真的我最重要的意思是我的媽媽首先是最重要的
Just live in Life like you know being in real situations and Happen to be a person of High integrity and Honesty
只是生活在生活中,就像你知道是在真實的情況下,併發生是一個人的高誠信和誠實的。
you Know you never embarrassed Yourself of Course not You never walked in and Said how Everybody Thinks I'm ignorant Here i'm stupid i
你知道你從來沒有讓自己難堪過 當然沒有 你從來沒有走進去說大家都認為我是無知的 我是愚蠢的
Never i don't i don't Feel ignorant right you know i don't ryan felt like i came up in this Situation
我不覺得自己很無知,對吧,你知道的 我不覺得自己是在這種情況下出現的
or time you know where i wasn't afforded Certain opportunities and if afforded Opportunities
或者你知道我在哪裡沒有得到某些機會,如果得到機會的話
I could Be Oprah could be
我可以是奧普拉可以是
Bill Gates i could Be Warren Buffett in My Experience in
比爾-蓋茨我可以成為沃倫-巴菲特在我的經驗在
Business
業務範圍
There is Very little difference
差異很小
if Any
如有
Between a Very High-Priced Business Education and
在非常高價的商業教育和。
What's available a Lot for a Lot less Money i went to the university of nebraska-Lincoln
什麼是可用的很多很多少的錢,我去了內布拉斯加大學林肯分校。
My last Year in college i went to Wharton for a Couple Years Before That
我在大學的最後一年,我去沃頓商學院學習了幾年,在那之前,我去了沃頓商學院。
I learned Just as Much At University of Braska As I did at Wharton
我在布拉斯卡大學學到的東西和在沃頓大學學到的一樣多。
you Need to be prodded in the right Direction but an Awful lot of It Is
你需要被催促在正確的方向,但一個非常多的它是。
Self As Self taught It Isn't Necessary to pay Thirty or Thirty-five Thousand Dollars a Year to go to some
自身作為自學的人,沒有必要每年花三十或三十五萬美金去一些
big-name School
名校
to get the Education at all i mean if you're gonna Learn accounting if you're going
我的意思是,如果你要學習會計,如果你要去
Is the probably the most important of Course You'd take in Business iF you're gonna Learn to count you learn in accounting
如果你要學習會計,那麼這可能是你在商業領域最重要的課程。
Absolutely as Well and My view going to you and Always going to harvard i mean i see i
當然,以及和我的觀點去你 和總是去哈佛 我的意思是,我看到我
Would i bet on that and
我會在那上面下賭注嗎?
so i
所以我
Wouldn't run Up
不會跑起來
Huge Bills and
鉅額賬單和
Education Is Very Good at
教育是非常好的
Training People to do the same Things that we've done over and Over again?
訓練人們做同樣的事情,我們已經做了一遍又一遍?
And i think there's Always a question What the nature of The Educational Good is
我認為教育的本質是什麼是個問題。
You Know you can Say It's a it's an investment Good we're investing in the future you can Say It'S a Consumption Good like
你知道你可以說這是一個它是一個投資好我們在投資未來你可以說這是一個消費好喜歡
college Is a Four-Year Party
大學是一個四年的黨
you Know i think most of the parents and students think of It Actually as an insurance Policy Where you're Buying This Really
你知道,我想大多數的家長和學生認為它實際上是一個保險單,你在哪裡買這個真正的
Ever more Expensive insurance
越來越貴的保險
So that The students don't fall through The really Big cracks in our society and We Should Be Asking some big questions why the insurance
我們應該問一些大問題,為什麼保險會有這樣的問題?
Costs are Going Up and Up like That and if you were the president of Harvard or stanford if You wanted to get a
成本越來越高,如果你是哈佛大學或斯坦福大學的校長,如果你想得到一個。
Lynch Mob of students alumni Faculty to come after you and try to lynch you What you Should Say Is
學生、校友、教員組成的 "私刑團 "來追殺你,並試圖對你動用私刑 你應該說的是什麼?
something Like This you know we we live in this much larger more Global World We Offer a Great
像這樣的東西你知道我們我們生活在這個更大更全球化的世界裡我們提供了一個偉大的
Education to everybody and so we're gonna double or triple our Enrollment over the next 15 to 20 Years
所以我們將在未來15到20年內把我們的入學率提高一倍或三倍。
and People Would They'd All Be Furious because the value of The degrees comes from This Massive
人們會他們都會很憤怒,因為度的價值來自於這個巨大的。
Exclusion and and What you're Really running is something Like a
排斥和和你真正運行的是什麼東西像一個。
studio 54 Nightclub i hate It i Hated School i Really Hated School i Really all i hated School
工作室54夜總會我討厭它我討厭學校我真的討厭學校我真的所有我討厭的學校
Generally Right
一般正確
Because It Was this
因為它是這樣的
Instruction Following Thing Now i bet you it's probably also Because i wasn't good at It and some People
現在我敢打賭,你可能也是因為我不擅長它,而有些人則是。
Like I've Got a Great Conceptual rep Memory and a Terrible rote Memory so if i have a Story i could tell you
比如說我有很好的概念記憶和可怕的死記硬背 所以如果我有故事可以告訴你
Year By Year Kind of What Happened
年年歲歲,歲歲年年,發生了什麼?
Within a Story Within a Context but if i was to go into
在一個故事中,在一個背景下,但如果我是去到。
You Know like a Memory Based Learning it's terrible i have a Terrible Road Memory?
你知道像一個基於記憶的學習它是可怕的我有一個可怕的道路記憶?
Ego Barrier Is the worst Thing and if we Were raised differently
自我障礙是最糟糕的事情,如果我們被撫養不同的
Just imagine in the schools that all Along The People will always Say Everybody Makes Mistakes
想象一下,在學校裡,一直以來,人們總是說每個人都會犯錯
Everybody has Weaknesses
每個人都有弱點
the Key is really to
關鍵在於
Understand What Your Mistakes and Weaknesses are so that You can Learn from them
瞭解你的錯誤和弱點是什麼,以便你能從中學習
right i think in Punishment is it'S a terrible Concept
我認為在懲罰是一個可怕的概念。
punishment means that You made a mistake and you're being Punished i think Instead of punishment Every time somebody Makes a Mistake
懲罰的意思是你犯了一個錯誤,你被懲罰我認為而不是懲罰每次有人犯了一個錯誤
you Should Say The Only Thing that you need to do
你應該說的唯一的事情,你需要做的事情。
To get out of your punishment his first think What Kind of mistake Was that so if i'm in this Situation
為了擺脫你的懲罰,他首先想到的是什麼類型的錯誤,所以如果我在這種情況下。
That's like That Again
又是這樣的
How would i do deal with It differently not to make that Mistake
我怎麼會做處理它不同的方式,不犯這個錯誤。
so that Learning
以使學習
Should Come from The mistake not punishment because you're teaching People not to make Mistakes
應該來自錯誤而不是懲罰,因為你在教人們不要犯錯。
Where's Where the learning comes from Not the appreciation the if you keep Doing this over and Over again
哪裡是學習的地方,從哪裡來的,而不是欣賞,如果你繼續這樣做一遍又一遍。
you're gonna Keep encountering The Same outcomes
你會繼續遇到同樣的結果。
you Know it's an Extremely
你知道這是一個極其
Corrupt System We Have at This point There's we have an Education bubble in the u.s
我們現在的腐敗系統在美國有一個教育保麗龍。
We have a Trillion Dollars of student debt
我們有一萬億美元的學生債務
To first approximation this has gone to pay for a trillion Dollars Worth of lies about the value of The education People Have Received
乍一看,這已經去支付了一萬億美元的謊言價值的人民已經接受的教育。
And
還有
and i it's not at all obvious
而我卻不以為然
Yet Though What's going to What's going to replace This or how it's going to change
然而,雖然什麼將取代這一點,或者它將如何改變
My Um you know the the you know the
我的嗯你知道的你知道的
and I'm somewhat Skeptical That It Will Be replaced By Any Sort Of single Unitary System and i have This fellowship for
我有點懷疑它將被任何形式的單一系統所取代,我有這個獎學金的
Young People to start Companies
年輕人創辦公司
and You know it's not my claim is not That
而你知道這不是我的訴求不是那樣的
Everybody Should Do This i don't think everyone Should become an Entrepreneur and i think i think there is no one-size-Fits-All
每個人都應該這樣做 我不認為每個人都應該成為一個企業家,我認為我認為沒有一個放之四海而皆準的辦法。
so i think the future will be much more heterogeneous Much more diverse in terms of What People do
所以我認為未來會更加異質化 更加多樣化的人做什麼。
And
還有
What's What's Really Anomalous is the sort of
什麼是真正的反常,就是那種
Unitary tracking Where you have to go to an elite college You go to yale or you go to jail
單元追蹤 你必須去精英大學的地方 你要麼去耶魯,要麼去坐牢
There's nothing Else You can Do you know
你知道嗎,你沒有什麼可以做的了
and so the The i think the universities are Perhaps in
所以我認為大學也許是在一個很好的環境中。
Perhaps in the same Place as the catholic Church Was in
也許在同一個地方,就像天主教會在同一個地方。
1514 if we Go back 500 Years Where you have sort of This is monolithic Way newton's universal
1514如果我們回到500年前,你在哪裡有排序,這是單體方式牛頓的普遍性。
Way of
途徑
Body of Knowledge of teaching Things the difference Between the yale and the Harvard political science Faculties are probably
教學事物的知識體系 耶魯大學和哈佛大學政治學系之間的區別可能是什麼?
No greater Than the differences between the dominicans and the franciscans we have all Kinds of small Debates Within This context?
沒有比Dominicans和Franciscans之間的差異更大,我們有所有的Kinds of小辯論在這種情況下?
We are we Have a System of Indulgences
我們是我們,我們有一個放縱的系統。
That's costing more and more to support this priestly or professorial Class of People
那就是要花費越來越多的錢來支持這個牧師或教授級的人的生活
We are told That it's the only Way to Salvation
我們被告知這是唯一的救贖之路。
You Must get a diploma to be Saved if you do not get a diploma then You Will go to hell
你一定要拿到文憑才能得到救贖 如果你沒有拿到文憑,你就會下地獄的
And i think and i think the i think the the message that i have That's like?
我覺得我有的資訊就像?
The 16th Century Reformers That's a Somewhat Troubling Message
十六世紀的改革家那是一個有點麻煩的資訊。
Is that you have to work out?
這是你要鍛鍊的嗎?
Your Salvation on Your own you have to save Yourself and and
你的救贖要靠你自己,你必須拯救你自己和和。
And That's That's i think i believe that is the truth but it's a it'S a somewhat uncomfortable one
我想我相信這是事實,但這是一個... ...一個有點不舒服的問題