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  • Equifax.

  • The company whose name sounds like a theatrical production

  • in which Daniel Radcliffe, plays a horse

  • -that fucks a fax machine. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • Now Equifax,

  • is one of the big three credit reporting agencies.

  • The companies who keep financial data on all of us.

  • So that people like uh, lenders and landlords can decide,

  • whether or not we are trustworthy.

  • So, Equifax controls some of our most sensitive information

  • and about a month ago, we learned this.

  • NEWSCASTER 1: Breaking news from the credit monitoring company,

  • Equifax.

  • Cyber thieves making off with private information

  • of 143 million Americans,

  • nearly half the U.S. Population.

  • It's actually worse.

  • It's now 145 million Americans

  • and I have got good news and bad news there.

  • The good news is that by "private information"

  • they don't mean your Google search history, so,

  • nobody yet knows about the time you searched for,

  • "wario porn (real),"

  • or "world's richest dogs looking for assistants,"

  • or "can loneliness cause the farts?"

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • But the bad news is, the information they got,

  • could well be all this.

  • NEWSCASTER 2: It's your name, social security number,

  • birth date, driver's license and addresses where you lived,

  • information that is mostly permanent

  • unless you're in federal witness protection.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -Wow! Okay,

  • so, that does sound bad,

  • but here's a simple solution, just move 145 million people

  • into the witness protection program.

  • That means Jones' uh, you are the Thompson's,

  • uh, Thompson's you're the Campbell's,

  • Campbell's you're the Mendoza's,

  • Mendoza's, you're the Jones'.

  • Wait-- wait hold on, Jones' you shouldn't be there,

  • I made you the Thompson's.

  • No, Thompson's I made you the Campbell's.

  • Campbell's, you're the Mendoza's.

  • Mendoza's, why are you there?

  • You should be living in the Jones' house in Phoenix.

  • Oh no, I shouldn't have said Phoenix.

  • -Oh God, the Jones' are dead! -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • -The Jones' are dead! -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

  • Forget the whole plan, I was just trying to help!

  • I'm sorry for trying! Oh, they're dead!

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) -And-- and I know--

  • -I know there might be... -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

  • ...some younger people watching this

  • and, well hold on-- who cares?

  • We're the first generation

  • to routinely send pictures of our junk to each other

  • -over the internet. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • Why should we give a shit

  • about someone seeing our social security numbers?

  • But you should know,

  • criminals can do a lot more with that number

  • than they can with a picture of your dick.

  • This information is gonna be sold

  • left and right on the black market.

  • People are gonna be able to open up credit cards

  • for the rest of your life once they have that information.

  • They can go out and purchase a home in your name.

  • They can open bank accounts, take car loans.

  • Someone who has your social security number

  • could actually take a job, they could file taxes

  • and even claim your kids as dependents

  • and be gone with your refund

  • before you ever actually file a tax return.

  • No! No!

  • No, the tax benefit,

  • is the whole point of having children.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -Without that,

  • all you're left with is your actual children.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -Which, you know...

  • -Ugh! -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • The point here is, it's a huge problem

  • and in any other era,

  • this would've been the biggest news story

  • for a month, but--

  • but now that every day's headline

  • is simply the words,

  • "Everything batshit bananas again today,"

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -it slipped under the radar,

  • but it is worth asking, "How the hell did this happen?"

  • Because the short answer is,

  • the people in-charge have done literally everything wrong.

  • And let's start with just--

  • just the way that Equifax told us about the hack.

  • In early September, their then CEO, Rick Smith,

  • a man with a face and name so bland

  • he may as well be called, "Human Person,"

  • or "Frasier re-run."

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -He issued a taped apology,

  • but his remorse seemed a little less than heart felt.

  • On July 29th of this year, we discovered that attackers

  • had gained unauthorized access to certain Equifax data files.

  • This is clearly a disappointing event

  • and one that strikes at the heart...

  • of who we are and what we do.

  • -Holy shit! -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • Rick Smith is so alarmingly mechanical

  • you probably have to put him in rice every time he gets wet.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -Now, notably

  • he mentioned there that Equifax learned about the breach

  • on July 29th,

  • but even more notably that video was uploaded in September,

  • which is, and this is true, after July.

  • So, Equifax knew about the breach

  • for nearly six weeks

  • before telling the public and they claim

  • that they needed that time because the investigation was

  • "complex and time consuming."

  • Although, that's not all that happened in that time span.

  • NEWSCASTER 3: Three Equifax executives

  • sold nearly two million dollars in company stock,

  • days after the data breach was discovered.

  • Wow!

  • Selling stock before the public knows there's a problem

  • is one of those thing that looks suspicious

  • whether or not you're actually doing something wrong.

  • It's like, walking into a petting zoo,

  • with a bib on.

  • What exactly are you planning

  • -on messily devouring in there? -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • And Equifax defended that saying,

  • none of the executives in question

  • including their Chief Financial Officer

  • knew about the data breach, which raises another question,

  • -"How is that even possible?" -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • Did they just ignore emails with the subject lines,

  • "Breach!" "Following up on breach!"

  • "Where the fuck are you? Breach, breach, breach!"

  • And, "Just spoke to you in person about breach

  • and you just stared blankly at me, and then said,

  • 'I'm gonna order from the salad place.'"

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • And if you are getting frustrated already

  • with this kind of incompetence,

  • you're gonna need to pace yourself,

  • because this story, gets a lot worse.

  • Apparently, there were multiple points

  • where this hack could have been prevented

  • and one of them is incredible,

  • because Equifax were alerted by Homeland security,

  • back in March,

  • that they needed to fix a critical vulnerability

  • in their software.

  • But as lawmakers discovered at a recent hearing,

  • that's not what happened.

  • There was one person apparently, who forgot to tell somebody

  • that they had a piece of software

  • that needed to be patched.

  • Yeah, it is not ideal,

  • that a company guarding such valuable information

  • leaves something that important down to one person.

  • It's like finding out that Chase Bank

  • has a big red button labeled, "Lose everyone's money,

  • and the only thing stopping anyone from pushing it,

  • -is Frank." -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • And look, I love Frank.

  • I love the guy, but what if he has to pee?

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • A-- and I want to tell you that this is an anomaly,

  • but Equifax has had multiple headline-grabbing breaches

  • over the years,

  • and that is not even counting smaller incidents like this.

  • I checked my credit report the other day

  • online with Equifax...

  • That was it, and next thing I know I have 300 pieces of mail

  • sittin' in my mailbox.

  • NEWSCASTER 4: Every single one of these is addressed to her,

  • but they're not hers.

  • Instead, she got other people's credit reports.

  • Now, names, social security numbers,

  • dates of birth, current and previous addresses

  • bank and loan account numbers,

  • all stacked up on a kitchen table in Biddeford.

  • -(AUDIENCE GROANING) -Yeah, I mean,

  • that not great, is it?

  • And it really should have set off red flags at Equifax,

  • when hundreds of different credit reports

  • were being mailed to the same address.

  • What exactly did you think had happened there

  • that every single Fraggle checks their credit at once,

  • down at Fraggle Rock?

  • -Down at Fraggle Rock? -(AUDIENCE CLAPPING)

  • -Now-- very nice. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • -And-- -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • And I know that other companies have had breaches

  • but none remotely as damaging as this new Equifax one,

  • 'cause remember, this isn't Target

  • exposing customer's credit cards.

  • This is compromising social security numbers

  • the things that thieves could use

  • to open new credit cards in your name

  • and if your information was stolen, which remember,

  • is about a 50-50 chance, it could haunt you forever.

  • You don't change your birth date,

  • you don't change your social security number.

  • Those who've been, uh, jeopardized by this hack

  • will have to protect themselves for years, until they're dead.

  • It's true and just think about that.

  • There is only one other thing

  • that you have to constantly protect yourself from

  • until you're dead.

  • -And that's fucking death! -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • And you would hope that Equifax would do a decent job

  • of mitigating the damage.

  • After all,

  • they did have nearly six weeks to work on a response,

  • but instead, their fuck ups continued.

  • For instance, they created a website

  • for concerned consumers to go to,

  • but then this happened:

  • The site that Equifax started is called Equifax Security 2017.

  • But a developer named Nick Sweeting,

  • wanted to show, how easy it is

  • to create a similar fake site, so he did.

  • He called it, Security Equifax 2017.

  • (AUDIENCE GROANING)

  • Exactly, someone created a fake site

  • and if you're thinking, "Well, who would be dumb enough

  • to fall for that?"

  • Equifax! That's who!

  • Because they tweeted links to that fake site

  • at least eight times!

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING IN DISBELIEF)

  • Despite the fact that site had a couple of tiny clues

  • that it might be fake from the headline reading,

  • "Why did Equifax use a domain

  • that's so easily impersonated by phishing sites?"

  • to the fact that when you clicked on their Frequently Asked Questions,

  • this happened.

  • ♪ ("NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP" BY RICK ASTLEY PLAYING) ♪

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING AND CHEERING)

  • Well played pranksters, you have my respect.

  • But look, don't worry.

  • Equifax says that they are tightening up their operation.

  • And to see how well that they've done on that,

  • You-- you can just go to, equifaxfraudprevention.com,

  • not because it's their site but because it's our site.

  • We bought it two days ago,

  • and if you'll go there you'll find the message,

  • "How were we still able to do this?

  • Why haven't you learned anything?"

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • But wait-- wait! Because there is even more.

  • 'Cause Equifax also offered consumers

  • a year of free credit monitoring

  • but when people tried to sign-up for the service,

  • they noted something.

  • Guess what? You lock into Equifax terms of service

  • -when sign-up for it, -Ah!

  • which means that you can't sue the company.

  • You've gotta resolve any disputes in forced arbitration.

  • Exactly! You'll be giving up your right to sue.

  • So legally, your best recourse at that point would be,

  • shaking your fist at the heavens while shouting, "Equifax!"

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • Now, they-- they've since rescinded that clause,

  • although many frustrated people are now signing up

  • for third party credit monitoring services like,

  • LifeLock, who've been advertising everywhere.

  • And they've seen a real surge in business

  • in the wake of this breach, although,

  • if you're considering LifeLock because you are mad at Equifax,

  • there is something you're gonna need to know.

  • According to filings with the SCC,

  • LifeLock purchases credit monitoring services from

  • -Equifax. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING NERVOUSLY)

  • And that means someone buys credit monitoring

  • through LifeLock.

  • LifeLock turns around and passes some of that revenue

  • directly along to Equifax.

  • Is that right Mr. Smith?

  • That is correct.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING IN DISBELIEF)

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • -It's true. Some of-- -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

  • some of the money that you pay to LifeLock

  • goes right back to fucking Equifax,

  • which could only be more infuriating

  • if you then found out that the rest of it goes

  • to Toys For Todds.

  • A charity that purchases sex toys

  • -for grown men named Todd. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • Buy your own sex toys Todd, we can't carry you on this one.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • And look, Equifax connections aside,

  • LifeLock has had repeated issues itself,

  • including settlements with the FTC

  • and a truly disastrous ad campaign

  • a few years back.

  • I'm Todd Davis,

  • and I'm here to prove just how safe

  • your identity can be with LifeLock.

  • That's my real social security number.

  • Yeah, LifeLock's then-CEO Todd Davis,

  • actually put his real social security number,

  • 457-55-5462,

  • on a truck and billboards.

  • For a time, it was impossible to escape

  • his social security number,

  • -457-55-5462. -(AUDIENCE CHUCKLING)

  • And that was a very cocky move

  • and one that resulted in him having his identity stolen

  • -13 times. -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

  • And I'm guessing, that the defense

  • for the people who took it was,

  • "I didn't steal his identity

  • I literally got it off the back of a truck."

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -So, to put it mildly,

  • LifeLock, may not be your best solution

  • to the Equifax crisis, which brings us to the question,

  • "What is?"

  • Well, consumer advocates told us

  • that the one big step everyone should take,

  • is to go through all three large credit reporting companies,

  • that's Equifax, Experian and TransUnion,

  • and freeze your credit.

  • That way no one can access it, including you,

  • until you unfreeze it.

  • Now the companies also offer

  • their own credit protection products,

  • with names like, Trusted ID

  • or Credit Lock Plus.

  • But, they are often more expensive

  • and offer fewer consumer protection.

  • So, if you need a way to remember this,

  • locks, are something you don't want.

  • Think of Justin Bieber's dreadlocks.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -A terrible decision

  • to be avoided!

  • Whereas freezes are great.

  • Uh, think of this tiny penguin losing its frozen mind.

  • ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪

  • See! So, to recap,

  • -locks, oof, freezes, wee! -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • Now-- now, here is the thing-- here's the thing on this.

  • Freezing and unfreezing of your credit can cost money

  • which will go back to these companies, because seemingly,

  • they just can't fucking lose on this.

  • And if you need any more proof of that,

  • on the very same day

  • that Congress was yelling at Equifax's former CEO,

  • it emerged that the company had just been awarded

  • a seven-million-dollar contract by the IRS, to prevent fraud,

  • which led one senator to make a pretty brutal comparison.

  • You realize, to many Americans right now, that looks like uh...

  • we're giving Lindsay "Lohawn" the keys to the mini bar.

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING IN SHOCK,) APPLAUDING)

  • I understand your point.

  • That was the pause of man thinking, "Do I let that pass?"

  • "Do I correct him on how to pronounce Lohan?"

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -Or do I double down

  • and pronounce her name, "Lingonberry Lahoni Baloney."

  • (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • And you should know-- you should know

  • that IRS deal has been suspended,

  • not cancelled by the way, just suspended.

  • And that might make you angry but the problem is,

  • that anger won't have much impact on Equifax.

  • Because they make most of their money

  • selling our data to businesses, like banks.

  • So, in their eyes,

  • we are not the consumer, we're the product.

  • To think of it in terms of KFC.

  • We are not the guy buying the ten-piece buckets,

  • -we're the fucking chickens! -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • So, for the time being,

  • businesses are the only ones who can exert influence here

  • and as one colorfully dressed expert pointed out,

  • that's not gonna happen anytime soon.

  • I haven't heard any big company came out-- come out yet

  • and say, "We're not gonna use Equifax anymore"

  • -for their credit scores. -STUART VARNEY: Good point.

  • So far, everybody's been quiet,

  • and I don't know what they're waiting to hear.

  • This is outrageous, they should be done

  • but I bet you,

  • because it's America, they'll be okay.

  • -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -Here's the truth,

  • that angry business casual farm animal on Fox Business

  • -is talking sense. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • And that sentence alone shows just how bad things are.

  • So, in the long term,

  • there should clearly be major reform to this industry

  • and how it's regulated,

  • but that is going to take time, so until then

  • you need to freeze your credit reports

  • with all three of these companies,

  • and only unfreeze them

  • when you need to apply for credit.

  • And because the freeze option

  • can be hard to find on their sites

  • if you go to our twitter feed,

  • we will give you exact links to do that, and when you do,

  • they will give you a PIN number that you need to unfreeze it.

  • So, do not lose that number, or at the very least,

  • make it something memorable.

  • I don't know, like...

  • -457-55-5462. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

  • -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) -But not that, 'cause of course

  • that's Todd Davis's social security number.

Equifax.

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