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Okay, let's do a little bit of a follow up here, follow-up to the conversation. So
ok let's do a little bit of a follow up here follow-up to the conversation so
Fred and Jane, they're having a disagreement that's normally what we
friend Jane they're having a disagreement that's normally what we
call it, maybe you'd even call it a fight if they start yelling at each other, get
call it maybe you'd even call it a fight if they start yelling at each other get
angry, I think it's easy to get frustrated. But, in reality they're just
angry I think it's easy to get frustrated but in reality they're just
negotiating
negotiating
so, this is a kind of negotiation. Negotiation have some key parts we want
so this is a kind of negotiation negotiation have some key parts we want
to remember, let's look at what those key parts are. They include: goals strategies,
to remember let's look at what those key parts are they include goals strategies
issues and planning so, when you have a negotiation it's important to remember
issues and planning so when you have a negotiation it's important to remember
that you have some goals, you have some strategies, you have some issues, you have
that you have some goals you have some strategies you have some issues you have
some planning. Now, we just saw Fred and Jane, did they have goals? Mmmh!! kind of, Fred
some planning that we just saw friend Jane did they have goals kind of friend
wanted to go overseas, Jane wanted to go to Disneyland, so it's kind of their goal
wanted to go overseas Jane wanted to go to Disneyland so it's kind of their goal
and remember there another goal was, they want to have a vacation together with
and remember there another goal was they want to have a vacation together with
the family, so again that's kind of a goal. But then, did they have a plan?
the family so so again that's kind of a goal but then did they have a plan to
Did they have a strategy? Then, have those things in fact, they were a little bit just
have a strategy then have those things in fact they were a little bit just
making things up as they went along.
making things up as they went along
Did they have an issue that was very clear? Hmm, not really no, so what happens
did they have an issue that was very clear hmm not really no so what happens
is they're just kind of talking and that's not a good way to negotiate,
is they're just kind of talking and that's not a good way to negotiate
because it means, how are you going to win? This is a key point in negotiation
because it means how are you going to win this is a key point of negotiation
that we're going to learn about in a minute, how do you know if you win or lose?
that we're going to learn about a minute how do you know if you win or lose
Well, you begin with having goals, strategies, issues and planning.
well you begin with having goals strategies issues and planning
Okay, let's take a look at the parts of a negotiation that we just mentioned, but
ok let's take a look at the parts of a negotiation that we just mentioned
let's look a little bit deeper into how they fit together into a kind of a chain
let's look a little bit deeper into how they fit together into a kind of a chain
of negotiation.
of negotiation
Okay, what we can look at here is the very first part of the negotiation which are
ok what we can look at here is the very first part of the negotiation which are
the goals and then after the goals, you need to work on the strategy, after
the the goals and then after the goals you need to work on the strategy after
the strategy, you need to work on the issues, and after the issues you need to
the strategy you need to work on the issues and after the issues you need to
work on the planning. So, these four parts kind of fit together
work on the planning so these four parts kind of fit together
before your negotiation begins, not doing your negotiation,
before your negotiation begins not doing your negotiation
this is not, this is not like steps to a negotiation.
this is not this is not like steps to a negotiation
These are actually all inside every negotiation at any time, these are all
these are actually all inside every negotiation at any time these are all
inside so, you've got your goals, your strategy, your issues, your planning, this
inside so you've got your goals your strategy or issues you're planning this
is all inside of a negotiation. Before your negotiation begins however, if you
is all inside of a negotiation before your negotiation begins however if you
want to increase your chance to win, to do better, before the negotiation you
want to increase your chance to win to do better before the negotiation you
think: what are my goals? What are my strategies?
think what are my goals what are my strategies
What are my issues that are important to me? And what is my plan to win this
what are my issues that are important to me and what is my plan to win this
negotiation, or at least to get what I want? Which is really the key point to
negotiation or at least to get what I want which is really the key point to
every negotiation, to get what your goals are. So, every negotiation has these parts,
every negotiation to get what your goals are so every negotiation has these parts
every, every negotiation has goal strategies, issues and planning, but some
every every negotiation has gold strategies issues and planning but some
people don't do them well, some people try to ignore them, they don't make a
people don't do them well some people try to ignore them they don't make a
plan, they just start talking maybe that's kind of their plan to make people
plan they just start talking maybe that's kind of the plan to make people
confused by just talking a lot. But, you win your negotiation by doing these
confused by just talking a lot but you win your negotiation by doing these
better so, in this unit were going to focus on how do we do these better? And
better so in this unit were going to focus on how do we do these better and
in later units, we're going to focus on each one in detail to show you how to do
in later units we're going to focus on each one in detail to show you how to do
that.
that
00:03:38,430 --> 00:03:42,780 Okay, you have some exercises in the book and I'd like you to go ahead, and look at
yeah
those exercises, give them a try. These exercises aren't really hard and I
ok you have some exercises in the book and I'd like you to go ahead and look at
didn't make the exercises to make it hard for you,
those exercises give them a try these exercises aren't really hard and I
the goal is not to be hard, the goal in fact it's not to take a test or to
didn't make the exercise to make it hard for you
get the right answer, the goal is to help you think about these ideas for a
the goal is not to be hard to go Lynn factors it's not to take a test or to
negotiation.
get the right answer the goal is to help you think about these ideas for a
Why is this important? Because when you negotiate, it's really key to get your
negotiation
mind in the right perspective, to get your mind in the right situation so that
why is this important because when you negotiate it's really key to get your
you can win. That's a key point, so you can win, so these exercises are made to
mind in the right perspective to get your mind in the right situation so that
help you get ready to get your head in the right space, to get thinking in the
you can win that's a key point so you can win so these exercises are made to
right direction, and to remember some of the words. It's not hard, it's easy but I want
help you get ready to get your head in the right space to get thinking in the
you to start thinking this way, so do some of these filling the gap exercises
right direction and to remember some of the words it's not hard easy but I want
which include these gap exercises, go ahead and write up a short answer to
you to start thinking this way so do some of these filling the gap exercises
some of these topics on the next page, like 123 and four down there 123 actually,
which include these gap exercises go ahead and write up a short answer to
right? And I want you to begin to think about negotiation, now before I let you go then,
some of these topics on the next page like 123 and four down there 23 actually
let me go ahead and introduce a little bit more about why we should begin to
right and i want to begin to think about negotiation now before I let you go then
think this way. Why for example, pull up my slide here
let me go ahead and introduce a little bit more about why we should begin to
00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:22,289 Okay,
think this way why for example of my slide here
why should we focus on
yeah
this part here? Why are there parts of negotiation so important? Why do we
ok
need to pay attention to these parts?
why should we focus on
Well, let me begin by maybe just reminding you of some negotiations
this part here why why are there parts of negotiation so important why do we
you've seen before, maybe you've gone to the night market with your mother or
need to pay attention to these parts
father or aunt, maybe you've gone to night market with some friends, maybe you've
well let me begin by maybe just reminding you of some negotiations
bought something, or you were with somebody who bought something. You saw them
you've seen before maybe you've gone to the night market with your mother or
negotiate really hard, they really focus they really argue, what you thought maybe was
father or and maybe you've gone and I market with some friends maybe you've
arguing, but actually it was negotiation for a long time. Now, the question is: if you
bought something or you with somebody who bought something you saw them
do go negotiate, how do you know that you're getting something you want ?How do
negotiate really hard they really focus their really argue thought maybe it was
you know that you win?
arguing but actually was negotiation for a long time now the question is if you
Let's say, I go to the night market and I want to buy this cup here and I like
do go negotiate how do you know that you're getting something you want how do
this cup then, so I ask the person in the market and you know, what does this
you know that you win
cup doing? He says well, this cup is great, he tells me the features you can
let's say I go to the night market i want to buy this cup here and I like
keep the hot tea hot, you can keep the cold water cold, and has a top, and has a
this cup and and so I ask the person in the market and you know what does this
really good handle on, it can last a long time. I say: "how much is this cup sir?" And
couple doing he says well this cup is great he tells me the features you can
he says: "this cup is maybe 100 NT dollars" and so now, I need to think, do I want
keep the hot tea hot you can keep the cold water cold and has a top and had a
to pay 100? Or do I want to negotiate different price? Of course, if I can
really good handle on it can last a long time I say how much is this cup sir and
negotiate a different price
he says this cup is maybe 100 ng dollars and so now i need to think how do i want
what does that mean? If I negotiate a price of 80 then I save 20, and that
to pay 100 we do I want to negotiate different price of course if I can
person was selling to me, does he lose 20?
negotiate a different price
Well, he certainly makes 20 less than he would have made if I paid 100, right? If I
what does that mean if I negotiate a price of 80 then I save 20 and that
paid 100 for this cup, the seller makes 100, the buyer spends 100. By paying 80, the
person was selling to me does he lose 20
buyer spends 80, and the seller makes 80, 80 is 20 less but does he lose 20?
well he certainly makes 20 less than he would have made if i paid 100 right if I
right?
paid 100 for this cup the seller makes 100 the buyer spend 100 by pay 80 the
You see, I don't know because I'm not the seller, I don't know, we don't know the
buyer spends 80 and the seller makes 8080 is 20 less what does he lose 20
price, we don't know the cost, right? So, what happens when you negotiate in a
right
night market like that, if you say something like I'll give you 80 very
you see I don't know because I'm not the seller i don't know we don't know the
often what does the salesperson says? He says: "huh
price we don't know the cost right so what happens when you negotiate in a
It costs me 100, you'd make me lose,
night market like that if you say something like i'll give you 80 very
lose 20, I would lose 20". This is a very normal thing to say, right? and
often what does the salesperson say he says huh
then you say: "oh! I am sorry, I don't want you to lose money ", right?
it cost me 100 you'd make me lose
Do they really lose money? Well, we don't know this is a key part negotiation, the
lose twenty i would lose 20 that this is a very normal thing to say right and
secret information is secret, we really don't know. I guess we can check, we could
then you say on so I don't want you to lose money right
go call up the supplier and ask how much one buys? If one wants to buy this
do they really lose money well we don't know this is a key part negotiation the
from the supplier, how much is it? Then we would know, but we usually don't do that,
secret information is secret we really don't know I guess we can check we could
we don't know. So, I have no way to know if the seller is going to really lose
go call up the supplier and ask how much one buys one if one wants to buy this
money but I do know me, the buyer if I pay 80 or I pay 100, the difference is 20 for
from the supplier how much is it then we would know what we usually don't do that
sure.
we don't know so i have no way to know if the seller is going to really lose
Now, the next question becomes what's the value of this cup to me? What do I think
money but i do know me the buyer if i pay 80 or I pay 100 the difference is 24
I get from this cup? Is it worth keeping my tea hot? Is that worth 100? Was it
sure
worth 80? Was it worth 50? Now, here's what we begin to look at these ideas of the
now the next question becomes what's the value of this cup to me what do I think
goals, the strategies, the issues and the planning, because if I think about it and
I get from this cup is it worth keeping my tea hot is that worth 100 was it
I say: "well, you know, I don't know, I don't care, I just want to pay less, less is
worth 80 is it worth 15 now here's what we begin to look at these ideas of the
better, right? Of course, if you could give me this cup for free, that would be best.
goals and strategies the issues and the planning because if I think about it and
I don't think, he's going to give me the cup for free, but that would be best,
I say well you know i don't know i don't care i just want to pay less less is
and so what do I do, I begin to negotiate or in Taiwan we say ..... , right? Cut
better right of course if you could give me this cup for free that would be best
down the price, argue with the price, right? And then, sometimes people give you a
I don't think he's going to give me the cup for free but that would be best
rule of thumb, like people save you travel to China and you negotiate, always
and so what do i do I begin to negotiate or it in taiwan way Sarge ah right cut
cut the price in half, begin at half.
down the price argue with the price right and sometimes people give you a
Well, what I'm saying is: how much is this cup worth to me? Now, if i say 100
rule of thumb like people save you travel to China and you negotiate always
you know, Mmmh
cut the price in half begin at half
I have another cup, it's okay, it's not as good as this cup maybe, it doesn't really
well what what I'm saying is how much is this cup worth to me now if i say 100
keep my tea warm. So, maybe 100 is a little bit too much, if it's 100 I just keep my
you know
other cup, I don't need it. Now, if I want 80 and I say 80 is worth it, I'm
I have another cup it's okay it's not as good as this cup maybe it doesn't really
willing to pay 80, because I think keeping my tea warm is worth the 80 and
keep mighty warm so maybe 100 102 little bit too much if it's 100 I just keep my
my other cup doesn't work that good so 80 is my goal. Now, if my goal is 80 and
other cuff I don't need it now if i want 80 and I say 80 SATs worth it i'm
then I say: "Okay sir, you say 100 I'll give you 80" and then the salesperson
willing to pay 80 because I think keeping my tea warm is worth the 80 and
says:" 80, okay".
my other cup doesn't work that good so 80 is my goal now if my goal is 80 and
Sold, what's your first reaction? Your first reaction is huh,
then I say okay sir you say 100 i'll give you 80 and then the salesperson
I should have said 60, I said 80 but he gave it to me right away,
says 80 ok
obviously I paid too much.
sold what's your first reaction your first reaction is huh
So, here we run into the key point of negotiation. Of course, you can always
I should have said 60 sure that 60 s and 80 but he gave it to me right away i
feel better, if you get a lower price and of course, you will feel better if you
obviously paid too much
get something for less and this seller makes less money. Of course, and when the
so here we run into the key point of negotiation of course you can always
seller agrees very quickly ,you say: huh,
feel better if you get a lower price and of course you will feel better if you
I should not have done that, why? Because the seller made more than he
get something for less and this seller makes less money of course and when the
expected, he was happy to make that, I could have, I could have made the price
seller agrees very quickly used up
lower and he would have not been so happy, and I would be more happy. So that
I should not have done that why because the the seller made more than he
always happens, that's always true.
expected he was happy to make that I could have I could have made the price
That's the problem in negotiation is: how do you know if you win or lose?
lower and he would have not been so happy and I would be more happy so that
How do you know if you did a good job or a bad job? If you're just waiting for the
always happens that's always true
seller to say: "OhI okay, I'll give it to you and that's a bad job, then you'll feel
thus the problem and negotiation is how do you know if you win or lose
bad. But, what about the cup? Does the cup do what you want? Does the cup do what you
how do you know if you did a good job or a bad job if you're just waiting for the
need?
seller to say okay i'll give it to you and that's a bad job then you'll feel
Does this cup keep my tea hot? And is that worth eighty dollars to me? If
bad but what about the cup does the cup do what you want is the cup do what you
that's worth eighty dollars and the salesperson sold it to me for 80, what I
need
wanted was 80, then actually I should think
does this cup keep mighty hot and is that worth eighty dollars to me if
good I got what I wanted, it's worth 80 to me for this Cup.
that's worth eighty dollars and the salesperson sold it to me for 80 what I
The thing I get keeping my tea warm, better than my old cup that is worth 80
wanted was 80 then actually I should think
to me, if that's worth 80 to me then I should feel I've won, I've been victorious,
good i got what I wanted it's worth 80 to me for this Cup
I've done a good job, my negotiation is successful.
the thing I get keeping mighty warm better than my old cup that is worth 80
Okay well, if I don't think 80 I just think cut the price, cut the price, cut
to me if that's what 80 to me then I should feel I've 1 i've been victorious
the price.
I've done a good job my negotiation is successful
How do I know I win? Well, I probably never know I win, unless I get the cup for 0
okay well if I don't think 80 I just think cut the price cut the price cut
which is impossible, I'm always going to think I should have negotiated more. and
the price
If I get the price down to 80, and I keep pushing, no 70, I keep pushing no 60,
how do i know i win well I probably never know I win unless i get the cup 40
and maybe sell it to me for 60, I'm still going to say: Oh! I should have held out
which is impossible i'm always going to think I should have negotiated more and
longer,
i get the price down to 80 and I keep pushing no.17 I keep pushing those 60
I should have cut that price more, I should have gone for 40, right? So, in
and maybe sell it to me for 60 i'm still going to say all I should have held out
negotiation, the very beginning of a negotiation we don't really know what we
longer
want,
I should have cut that price more I should have gone for 40 right so in
that's not good and at the end of a negotiation we don't know
negotiation the very beginning of a negotiation we don't really know what we
did we win? Or did we lose?
want
did I do good? Or did I do bad? Do I need to improve or should I just keep doing it
that's not good and at the end of a negotiation we don't know
this way? On the other hand, at the beginning of a negotiation if you set
did we win or did we lose did I could do
your goal clearly, what is the value to me? How much do I want to pay to get what
did I do good or did i do bad do I need to improve work so just keep doing it
I get from this? Then you negotiate and then you get it, if you get it you can
this way on the other hand at the beginning of a negotiation if you set
say I did a good job or I did a bad job. If my value is 80, and I negotiate and the
your goal clearly what is the value to me how much do I want to pay to get what
salesperson only goes down to 90 then I say, that's it I don't want it, because if
i get from this then you negotiate and then you get it if you get it you can
I pay 90 that is more than my value, if he goes down to 80 then I got what I
say i did a good job why did a bad job if my value is 80 and negotiate and the
wanted.
salesperson only goes down the 90 then I say that's it I don't want it because if
If the next person comes and they negotiate behind me, and they get it for 70,
i pay 90 that is more than my value if he goes down to 80 then I got what I
I should still think my goal was 80, I got it for 80 now maybe in the future, maybe in the
wanted
future when I negotiate another time, I need to consider the value again
if the next person comes and they negotiate behind me and they get 470
carefully maybe I thought the value was more than its worth to me.
should still think my goal was 80 I got 480 now maybe in the future maybe in the
But for now, if I thought it was 80 and I get 80 then that's my goal.
future when I negotiate another time I need to consider the value again
So, in negotiation it's important to think beforehand, what are your goals,
carefully maybe I thought the value was more than its worth to me
strategies, issues? And then, that will help you come up with your planning to
but for now if I thought it was 80 and I get 80 then that's my goal
make a plan. If you have all of these together, well thought out cause you
so in negotiation it's important to think beforehand what are your goals
always have these in a negotiation maybe you don't think about it ,maybe you don't
strategies issues and then that will help you come up with your planning to
do it well, maybe you try to ignore it, maybe you're just always trying to go for 0 which
make a plan if you have all of these together well thought out because you
is impossible.
always have these in a negotiation maybe you don't think about it maybe you don't
Lower, lower is better, better I guess so but what about your time? What about your
do it well maybe you try to ignore it maybe he's always trying to go 40 which
energy? And what about the thing you want to get? So, maybe I argue and I just keep
is impossible
saying lower, lower, 70, 70 and the man says: "no, I won't give it to you for 70
lower lower is better better i guess so but what about your time what about your
and then what happens? I have to go home and I have to use my old cup and then I
energy and what about the thing you want to get so maybe I argue and I just keep
have to suffer another week or two weeks, or three weeks using my old cup,
saying lower lower 70 70 and the man says no i won't give it to you for 70
it doesn't keep my tea warm and I say : "Oh" ,that really make me angry, I went there, I
and then what happens I have to go home and have to use my old cup and then i
spent the time, I came back ,I got to use this old cup and now, I feel it was worth 80.
have to suffer another week or two weeks or three weeks using my old couple
Instead of fighting for 70, I should've just paid 80, I think you have that
doesn't keep mighty warm and I said off and really make me angry i went there i
experience too, don't you?
spent the time I came back I got to use old cup and now i feel it was worth 80
I think we have both those experiences, everybody you go somewhere, you bargain
instead of fighting for 17 should've just paid 80 I think you have that
the seller says: "okay, I'll give it to you and you said" Oh! I bargained,
experience too don't you
I gave up too fast, I bargain to easily, I should have fought more or the
I think we have both those experiences everybody you go somewhere you bargain
other hand, when you bargain really hard and then you go home, you don't buy it,
the seller says okay i'll give it to you and you said I bargains
then you keep regretting, I should've bought it, I wasted time there, I got to
I gave up too fast i bargain to to easily i should have fought more for the
go back again and I feel that I should have just bought it for the other
other hand were you bargain really hard and then you go home you don't buy it
price. So goal, strategy, issues and planning, this is what I want you to
then you keep regretting I should've bought and I wasted time there i got to
begin to think about in this class,
go back again and I feel that it's I should have just bought it for the other
don't just go to a strategy code and begin no, think before hand, right? Number
price so gold strategy issues and planning this is what I want you to
one, you must have something in common,
begin to think about in this class
he has a cup, I want a cup. Number 2, you have to have something that's different.
don't just go to a strategy cold and begin no think before him right number
I want to pay 80, he wants me to pay 100, now you begin, now I think what are my
one you must have something in common
goals? What are my strategies? What are my issues? What is my plan? Then I execute, when
he has a cup i want to cut number 2 you have to have something that's different
I'm done, I can go back and say did I get my goals? If I got my goals then that is a
i want to pay 80 he wants me to pay 100 now you begin now I think what are my
a success, if I miss my goals, how much did I miss by?
goals what are my strategy one of my issues with my plan that i execute when
How much did I do? That's not good, did I miss it by twenty percent? Did I missed
i'm done i can go back and say did I get my goals if I got my goals and that is a
it by fifty percent? Did I miss it by ten percent? Two percent? And then I can judge
success if I miss my goals how much did i miss by
it.
how much did i do that's not good did I miss it by twenty percent and i missed
Okay, so that's our beginning of this class, I want you to begin thinking that way,
it by fifty percent that mr. by ten percent two percent and then I can judge
thinking of goals.
it
Let's start with goals about that, that's really a good idea, clear, clear goals not
ok so that's our beginning of this class I want you to begin thinking that way
just cut the price, cut the price, cut the price.
thinking of goals
Okay, see you next time in our negotiation class.
let's start with goals about that that's really a good idea clear clear goals not