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  • Now, when we look at distributive

  • bargaining, what do we see? In

  • distributive bargaining, we see that you

  • have, basically, like a scale here. (Let me

  • show you here. Nope, not there. Here

  • may be, about here. Here we go. Let me go on

  • my monitor here. That's nice. Oops, turned off

  • my screen. okay there we go.) All right, so we

  • have a scale. So on this scale, I put a

  • little picture of a pizza. Now, why pizza?

  • Because remember Fred and Jane were

  • arguing about the pizza, right? Now why is

  • pizza good example of this? Well, on the

  • scale, you see, if one side goes up the

  • other side goes down. If one side goes

  • down, the other side goes up. That's

  • distributive bargaining. Anytime, this

  • side goes up, the other side goes down.

  • What one side wins, the other side loses.

  • What one side loses, the other side wins.

  • So you win, I lose. I win, you lose. So

  • that's what distributive bargaining is.

  • Both sides are in direct conflict, and

  • there's really not a lot you can do to

  • change that. The resources are fixed. What

  • does it mean to be fixed? Just like in

  • this picture, here. It's a pizza. It's a

  • round pizza. There's no more pizza. That's

  • it. We cannot go buy more. There's no more.

  • We gotta split up this pizza. If you get

  • one piece, I get one piece less. If I get

  • one piece, you get one piece less. So in

  • the case of Jane and Fred, that was

  • extreme. They had only one little tiny piece,

  • but same thing. If I cut it in half, one

  • person gets half, the other person gets

  • half. Would that be okay? Well, no.

  • Because Fred and Jane want to be full. They

  • want to eat enough, so that they are not

  • hungry.

  • And half is not enough, so they both want

  • to eat the whole piece. In any case, Fred

  • wants more, and Jane once more. They both

  • want more, so someone is going to have to

  • win, and somebody's going to have to lose.

  • And you say, "Well, Professor Warden, what

  • if they just cut the pizza in half and

  • their both are a little bit happy, isn't

  • that good? I mean, yeah, they still might

  • be hungry but at least Fred gets a

  • little bit, and Jane gets a little bit."

  • And the answer to that is, in that case,

  • yes, you're right. Fred will get a little

  • bit, and Jane will get a little bit, and

  • Fred will be a little bit less hungry,

  • and Jane will be a little bit less

  • hungry. But in this way, they're both

  • still hungry, so they both lose. So

  • thinking win-win, it's not so easy. Just

  • cutting something in half does not mean

  • win-win. That just means I get half

  • of what I want, which is the same as

  • losing, right? It's the same as losing, and

  • in distributive bargaining both sides do

  • not want to lose. And later, when we study

  • win-win, both sides don't want to lose

  • either. It's not just cutting something

  • in half. That is not the way it works. So

  • in this case, I use the scale to show one

  • side goes up, one side goes down. There's

  • just no way to stop it. Or the pizza, if

  • you get something, I get something less,

  • and in Fred an Jane's case, a very small

  • amount. So they're both going to end

  • up being hungry no matter what we do.

  • Okay. So I think I kind of made the point

  • there clear. For the buyer, a distributive

  • negotiation begins with what the best

  • deal is-- the target point. Now, let's begin

  • looking at this very, very carefully, step

  • by step, because I want you to remember

  • this, because it's a really key idea, right?

  • very, very important. So if you're the

  • buyer, a distributive negotiation begins

  • with the best deal, which means getting

  • the lowest price, right? I want to buy at

  • the lowest price. OK. So I want to buy

  • this cup,

  • and I want to get the lowest price. This

  • cup costs one hundred dollars, and I

  • would like to get less than 100, and

  • lower is better, right? if I am the buyer.

  • So the target point is the best deal, and

  • the worst deal is still acceptable.

  • That's called the resistance point. So

  • let's say this cup here, this cup, maybe

  • the retail price, the sticker price is

  • 100, okay, whatever. It doesn't really

  • matter to me. I have my price. So for me,

  • what is my target price? Well, if i could

  • pay 50, that is what i would like to pay.

  • Of course, I'd like to pay zero, right? but

  • remember what we talked about in the

  • previous units? that i need to have what

  • is my target. So in this case, let's say

  • my target is 50. OK. Now, then I'm the

  • buyer, so I would like to go lower, so 50

  • is my target price. That's my target

  • point. Now, how much does the price go up

  • and I'm not going to buy? 50 is what I

  • what I'm targeting, target point. Ofcourse,

  • if it's lower than 50, I'm

  • happy. That's fine, right? But 50 is my

  • target. Now, how much higher does the

  • price go and I'm just not going to buy

  • it if it goes higher? In that case, let's

  • say that my upper price, my resistance

  • point, I will not go past the

  • resistance point. Let's say that my

  • resistance point is... let's say 80, OK.

  • The sticker price maybe 100. We

  • don't care. That sticker price is

  • not important, the retail price is not

  • important to us. If that retail price is

  • 100, that is over my resistance point of

  • 80. So if somebody tells me you must pay

  • the price that's on there, the sticker

  • price, the retail price, the list price

  • I'm going to say no. I don't want to

  • spend that because that is over my

  • resistance. So we have two things here:

  • target and resistance. I want you to

  • remember.

  • So the resistance point for the buyer is

  • the highest price i will pay. Higher than

  • that, I will not buy, right? Higher than

  • that, i will not buy. The target point is

  • the desired price for me, 50. Anything

  • beyond the resistance point cannot be

  • accepted. 80, if it's 81 dollars, I will

  • not accept. If it's 82 dollars, I will not

  • accept it. If it's ninety dollars, no. If 143 00:07:07,860 --> 00:07:15,569 it's one hundred dollars, no. If it's

  • $79, then yes. I can accept that. That

  • doesn't mean I will accept it, but I can

  • accept that. If it's eighty dollars, can I

  • accept that? Yes, that's my, that is my

  • actual resistance point, right? but 81?

  • no. Both the target point and the

  • resistance point are secret information

  • that you should not tell the seller. Now,

  • here, we get into the next important

  • point in negotiation. And that is this

  • idea of secret information. So this is

  • the cup Ii want to buy. This cup I want to

  • buy it for 50. That's my target, my target

  • point, the most i will pay is 80. So 50 to

  • 80 in here, right? If you are going to

  • sell to me, and I told you, "Sir I would

  • like to buy that cup, and I would like to

  • buy that cup somewhere from 50 to 80.." And

  • what would you say to me? You would say,

  • "Oh, no problem, 80." And then what would I

  • say? "Well, 80 OK." 80 because 80 is still

  • within my resistance, right? Resistance

  • point, target point, resistance, it's

  • inside. Now, that was pretty stupid of me

  • to tell you that, right? I should just

  • tell you that 100 is way too much. I'm

  • not going to

  • spend that much, and then you say well

  • how much do you want? and then maybe I

  • begin by saying how much do I want. Maybe

  • I begin by saying 40, and then we can

  • work up like that, right? So we begin with

  • two ideas here, both of them are secret.

  • Resistance point and target point-- please

  • remember those. Those are so awesomely up

  • here, right? Resistance point and target

  • point. Okay. Secret information-- you never

  • want to tell the other side, in this case,

  • the seller. You never want to tell the

  • seller. Okay, now then let's change

  • perspective a little bit. Now the seller

  • is a little bit different, right? If the

  • seller is selling this cup, then the

  • seller must begin with a price, right?

  • Because he's selling it, I mean you

  • cannot go and ask, "I would like to buy

  • that cup. How much is it?" and the seller

  • says, "Hmm. I don't know. How much money do

  • you have?" Right? That doesn't work,

  • right? No, I don't think that works,

  • although there are some companies that

  • do that kind of thing. So if you come to

  • me you say, "Mr. warden, I'd like to buy

  • that cup." And I say, "Hmm.. the price of this

  • cup, let me tell you.. How much money is in

  • your pocket right now?" I don't think that

  • would be a good way to begin. What do we

  • normally begin with? Normally, you go to

  • the seller, and there's a price there, a

  • sticker price or a list price or retail

  • price, and that price is listed there. Or

  • you can ask me and I tell you 100. This

  • cup is 100. So the seller must always

  • begin. The seller must always begin with

  • some public information, and that public

  • information is going to be the price.

  • So we call this the seller's asking price,

  • the sellers asking price. OK. Now, after

  • the seller is asking price what comes

  • next? Let's take a look. "At the start of

  • the negotiation, one value is public

  • everyone can see it. While two values are

  • secret." So the asking price, the selling

  • price, the retail price, the list price

  • this in fact is public. Two other values

  • or secret, but we'll talk about that in a

  • second. So the first step is for the

  • buyer to decide how much to offer or the

  • initial starting offer, right? So if i go

  • to buy the cup, and the list price is 100,

  • I must decide what do I say to begin

  • with. Do I say 0? "You should give me that

  • cup for free, please." Well, I can't start

  • with zero. I guess I could start with 0, but no

  • one's going to take me serious, right? So

  • what do I begin with? That's going to be

  • the opening or first offer. The first

  • offer needs to be lower than the target.

  • Remember my target, right? Remember my

  • target? My target was 50. Since the seller

  • will try to raise the price, the seller

  • will always try to make the price go up.

  • So the buyer should begin under the

  • target. If my target is 50, I would like

  • to get 50. How do I get 50? I must begin

  • below 50. I say i'll give you 40. So here

  • we have this little chart. I like this a

  • lot. We can see, on this graph here, on

  • this line, we have three things so far. On

  • the right side, we have the buyers

  • resistance point, that is I will not

  • spend more than this. In my case, the

  • example was 80. I will not spend

  • more than 80. Then you have the buyer's

  • target point. In my case was 50 for the

  • cup, so I will spend more. I will

  • definitely spend less than this. I'm

  • happy to spend less. The question is

  • though, what do I want to get? I wanted to

  • get 80, and then we have the first offer.

  • So maybe I begin my offer down around 40.

  • And then in this chart, we have a

  • different example. So we have 12,000. It's

  • the buyers resistance point. More than

  • 12,000, too much. He wants to get 9,000, so

  • where does he begin? He begins down

  • around 7,500. And the one more piece of

  • information there is what it's the

  • sellers asking price? That's public

  • information, isn't it? The seller's asking

  • price. OK. So I really like you to look

  • carefully at this. (Oops. There we go. My

  • screen again, very sensitive, the screen

  • is.) Now what? You look very careful in

  • your book at this, and begin to

  • understand the difference between the

  • buyer and the seller. I think it's easy

  • for you to understand. I think you do

  • it every day. You understand it, but the

  • problem is I want you to really see that

  • this information has to stay secret. You

  • really must think what is my target? We

  • talked about this last time, didn't we?

  • What is it that is my target? How do I

  • decide if I win or if I lose? How do I

  • decide if I do a good job or a bad job?

  • You have to have your target clear. Your

  • resistance, right? so your target to your

  • resistance. If the price keeps going up

  • to your resistance, well then that's not

  • so good for you. But after some point,

  • that resistance point, you will not buy

  • at all. So this range here must stay

  • secret.

  • If the buyers first offer is too low for

  • the seller, then the seller will not want

  • to sell. So now we begin to look at this.

  • How do you begin? You begin lower than

  • your target. How much lower? how much

  • lower? And my answer is well if you go

  • too low, the buyer will say, "Huh, that is

  • just so low. Forget it. I don't want to

  • talk to you." Right? So you don't want to

  • go that low ,but you don't want to go

  • over your target. This means the first

  • offer must be higher than the sellers

  • resistance point. Ah so now we bring in

  • the seller's resistance point. Remember

  • the buyers resistance point? That is the

  • highest price the buyer will pay. Higher

  • than that is too high. What about the

  • sellers resistance point? While the

  • seller is different, the seller would

  • like the price to go up and up and up.

  • The buyer would like the price to go

  • down and down and down. So for the seller,

  • if the price goes too low, the seller

  • will lose money. So the seller has a

  • resistance point also. What is that?

  • That's the lowest price the seller will

  • sell for. However, this lowest price the

  • seller will sell for, its secret. It's

  • secret. He's not going to tell you what

  • it is. I mean he may say that he knows. He

  • may tell you something, but it will not

  • necessarily be true. So this is the

  • sellers resistance point.

  • And for the sellers resistance point and

  • the buyers resistance point, they are

  • apart. They are not together. I mean

  • usually they would be a part. If they're

  • together, there's no negotiation.

  • Everything's already agreed upon, so they

  • are apart. Now, this area between the two

  • is what we call the negotiations zone, the

  • bargaining range. Let's take a look at

  • this slide here very quickly. So let's

  • take a look at the buyers view. If the

  • price is too low for the seller, he or

  • she will walk away from the negotiation.

  • If the price is too high for the buyer,

  • he or she will walk away from the

  • negotiation. Look at this picture. So if

  • you look at the very bottom, that's

  • called the bargaining range, the

  • bargaining range, the bargaining range,

  • meaning we can have the price go all the

  • way down, in this example, to 7000 or the

  • price go all the way up to 12,000. So

  • 7000 to 12,000 is the bargaining range.

  • Lower than 7,000, if the price goes under

  • 7,000, guess what? That price is too low

  • for the seller. That price is too low for

  • the seller. That means the buyer's offer

  • is too low. What does too low mean? It

  • means the seller just says, "Nope, I don't

  • want to talk to you. Negotiation over!" How

  • about the other end, 12,000? Can the price

  • go over 12,000? No! Why? because if the

  • price is over 12,000, that price is too

  • high for the buyer, too high for the

  • buyer. That means the sellers offer is

  • too high. The seller wants too much. The

  • seller wants the price too high. A buyer

  • cannot agree, so those are the two

  • resistance points, sellers resistance

  • point and the buyers resistance point. If

  • you go beyond these, there's no deal, so

  • we must stay within these.

  • The problem is the buyers resistance

  • point is secret information, and the

  • sellers resistance point is secret

  • information. So we need to guess where

  • they are. What do we have inside there? At

  • nine thousand, we have the buyers target,

  • right? That's what he would like to get.

  • And we also have the sellers asking

  • price. That's the price he would like to

  • get. That's not secret. That's the one

  • piece of information that's public, not

  • secret. "Each side must have their own

  • goals clear, and guess what the other

  • side secrets are." Now this is another

  • thing, but I want you to think about in

  • negotiation, remember today I'm

  • emphasizing you want to win. How do you

  • win? You win by winning or you win by

  • making the other side lose, same thing.

  • Another key point today which sounds

  • again, it sounds not nice. And that is you

  • want to keep your information secret. I

  • want to keep my information secret, but

  • you want to get the other side secret

  • information out. How do you get it? There

  • are many ways, and none of them are too

  • good. They're all kind of trick the other

  • side. Fool the other side. Make them say

  • something they don't mean to say. Get

  • them confused. Get that information. Of

  • course, they don't want to give it to you,

  • so you need to get it somehow. So that's

  • how you can win. How do you win? Keep your

  • information secret, and get the other

  • side's information out. Gget their secret

  • information to not be secret anymore. I

  • know you're saying, "Oh Professor Warden,

  • this is all so terrible! We should be nice to

  • each other." And I'm saying, "OK. You can

  • do that, and you will be the one who

  • loses in a negotiation."

  • "The buyers first offer must

  • not be below the sellers resistance

  • point..." So the buyer wants to begin low

  • price, right? How low? Well, I don't know,

  • but not too low. Because if it's too low,

  • then game over. Higher than the sellers

  • target point, the seller will agree to

  • the offer quickly. So if you go high, if you

  • go high, then the seller may say, "Yep no

  • problem." And that always happens, doesn't

  • it? That always happens when you go

  • somewhere and you say something like, "I'd

  • like to buy that cup. How much is it?" and

  • he says, "That's one hundred dollars." And I

  • say, "Well, I'll give you 90." "Nice, OK. 90." And

  • what do I say? "OH! 90, why did I agree so

  • fast? I could have got it for 80." Right? so

  • if you go high, high enough, right? then

  • you're going to be past that target,

  • past the target of the seller, and

  • the seller will be happy to give it to you because it's

  • over the target, no problem. So here we

  • have the chart, again. Look at this

  • closely with me. Stick with me. Try to

  • follow this, a little bit confusing, right?

  • but I think you can do it. So what we

  • have over here is the two ends. On the

  • left end, buyer's offer too low, buyer's

  • offer too low. That means the price is

  • too low. The seller will not sell. What's

  • on the right side? The right side, on the

  • right side is seller's offer too high,

  • sellers offer too high. So this is the

  • bargaining range, the bargaining range

  • right? We can't go outside this range,

  • otherwise nothing will work, right?

  • Nothing will happen. No one will agree.

  • Okay. You can see here some things are

  • secret. So the buyers resistance point is

  • secret. The buyers target point is secret.

  • That should be you if you're the buyer.

  • And what about the seller? Well, you need

  • to guess the sellers resistance point.

  • And you need to guess the sellers target.

  • He's not going to tell you what they are.

  • Now, here's an interesting one, right here

  • that we've kind of talked about but not

  • really focused on so far. So that's this

  • seller's target point. So this is what

  • the seller would like to get for the

  • price, but what about the list price?

  • Here's the list price. This is the

  • sticker price. That's the sticker price.

  • Well, guess what? The sticker price, the

  • asking price, the retail price is higher

  • than the target point, the target price.

  • Why does the seller make the price

  • higher than what he wants? Why does he do

  • that? Because he knows that the buyer is

  • going to push the price down, right? So

  • what does he do? He begins higher. He

  • begins further up. So what about this, the

  • buyer? same thing. He begins low. Why begin

  • low? Because he knows he's going to be

  • pushed up in price. OK. So let's take a

  • look at this carefully together to make

  • sure we really have a good grip of it.

  • OK. So we come back to look at this

  • picture one more time because I want to

  • really emphasize how important this idea

  • is, and to get you thinking in a way that

  • really understands what is this

  • bargaining range, what are the resistance

  • points. So let me go ahead and

  • jump back to our slide here a bit. Spend

  • a little bit of time trying to specify,

  • clarify, I guess I should say, a little

  • bit on this. Okay. Now, the key point to

  • begin with is what is the bargaining

  • range, right? So our bargaining range

  • begins at the sellers high end, which is

  • the resistance point for the...

  • ......resistance point

  • for the buyer over on this side. And then

  • the resistance point for the seller over

  • on this end, over here. So with these two

  • ends in place, we need to remember that

  • the negotiation will not take place if

  • you're outside. So if you're way over

  • here or your way over here, not going to

  • happen, right? Why is it going to happen?

  • It's going to happen because we're

  • inside the bargaining range. So that's

  • the first point, and then what's another

  • important point. Let me change to my

  • highlighter here. I think the key point

  • here is what is your secret information?

  • Secret information, why is secret

  • information so important? because secret

  • information means if the other side

  • knows, well, then it's game over. You're

  • doomed. Because if I know the buyers

  • resistance point, and I'm the seller, I'm

  • going to go as close as I can to that

  • resistance point. On the other hand, the

  • reverse is also true. If I'm the buyer,

  • and I'm trying to buy from the seller

  • and I know the sellers resistance point,

  • I'm going to push as close as I can to

  • that resistance point. So the resistance

  • points must be secret. Also, the targets

  • must be secret, that is what is the goal?

  • what is the Goal package-- this all must

  • remain fairly secret. Now, you can say

  • what

  • you want. You can tell the buyer I want

  • to buy this product. You can tell the

  • buyer the price you want, but you don't

  • want that to be your real target. You

  • need to go outside, away from that

  • because they're going to push you back.

  • So the reason I like this picture so

  • much, the reason I like this chart so

  • much is that this chart really gives us

  • that, that clear feeling of here are the

  • points to begin with. Here are the points

  • to begin with. Here are the stages inside.

  • It's not as simple as just saying I get

  • as low as possible, like 0. I always ask

  • people how low do you want? They say well

  • lower is better, right? And I say, "Well,

  • that's true. Lower is better, but look if

  • you go too low, the negotiation will not

  • even happen. They won't take you serious.

  • They won't negotiate or withdraw." The

  • same... is true on the other side,

  • too high. So we've got these points at

  • the end. Then we have these points inside

  • the target points. So those target points

  • secret, very secret. If you let that out,

  • it's game over. You're going to lose, so

  • please take a look at this graphic very

  • carefully, and don't be intimidated by

  • it, thinking, "Wow! It's too complicated."

  • It's not really complicated, but on the

  • other hand, if you understand it, don't

  • just walk away and say, "Well, I got it. I

  • understand. I can draw a picture if i

  • take a test." No, it's not about taking a

  • test. It's about making your plan for

  • your negotiation so that you know what

  • are your beginning points what are your

  • resistance points, guessing what the

  • other side resistance point is, guessing

  • what the other side's target is, knowing

  • what your target is, and then beginning

  • your negotiation in this way, away from

  • your target, moving up towards your

  • target, being careful. Did you pass your

  • target? Now, you have to watch out. Don't

  • pass your resistance point and measuring

  • these things as you negotiate. This is

  • especially true when you have multiple

  • opportunities. You may have multiple

  • buyers that you're selling to or you may

  • have different

  • sellers that you can buy from. So you can

  • choose them. So you can go to each one of

  • them and negotiate. By having this very

  • clear picture, you can then decide who

  • gives you the better deal, who gives you

  • the better result. But how do you know

  • that? If you don't have your ideas very

  • clear, if you don't have your resistance

  • and target points, and before that, your

  • goal package, if you don't know any of

  • these things, if you don't know what is

  • my goal package, then you cannot possibly

  • make this. And if you don't make this,

  • then when you go to negotiate, all you're

  • thinking is what's my goal package?

  • That's what I want. That's kind of like

  • hit or miss. I get one hundred percent

  • or I get nothing. No. That's not the

  • way negotiation works. Probably, you want

  • to get some things you want. You're going

  • to lose some things you want, but how do

  • you get the most? How do you get more? In

  • distributive bargaining because you get

  • something other side loses something, you

  • need to have your goal package ready. You

  • need to be very clear. Then you need to

  • lay this out clearly. Know your

  • resistance point. Know your target point,

  • and guess. See if you can guess the other

  • side's resistance point, and the other

  • side's target point. If you do that, and

  • you keep your information secret, you'll

  • have a better chance to win more in the

  • distributive bargain. If you let your

  • secret out, you're going to lose in

  • distributive bargaining. All right. Good

  • luck with your negotiation!

Now, when we look at distributive

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