ACTUALLY ANSWER THIS. WAS IT TARGETED TO A SINGLE

WAS IT TARGETED TO A SINGLE TELEPHONE NUMBER OR NUMBERS?

TELEPHONE NUMBER OR NUMBERS? >> WE SUBPOENAED FOR CALL

>> WE SUBPOENAED FOR CALL RECORDS MULTIPLE NUMBERS.

RECORDS MULTIPLE NUMBERS. >> HOW MANY?

>> HOW MANY? >> I DON'T KNOW.

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> NONE OF --

>> NONE OF -- >> THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

>> THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. >> NONE OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS,

>> NONE OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, NONE OF STAFF OF CONGRESS --

NONE OF STAFF OF CONGRESS -- >> WE'RE GETTING TO THAT.

>> WE'RE GETTING TO THAT. >> WE ONLY DID IT TO THE

>> WE ONLY DID IT TO THE SUBJECTS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN

SUBJECTS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE INVESTIGATION WHICH IS A

THE INVESTIGATION WHICH IS A VERY ROUTINE AND STANDARD

VERY ROUTINE AND STANDARD INVESTIGATION PRACTICE.

INVESTIGATION PRACTICE. >> AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR

>> AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR ANYTHING FROM ME ABOUT A

ANYTHING FROM ME ABOUT A SUBPOENA AND THE LEGALITY OF A

SUBPOENA AND THE LEGALITY OF A SUBPOENA.

SUBPOENA. MY PROBLEM IS THIS.

MY PROBLEM IS THIS. WHO ON THE COMMITTEE ASKED THAT

WHO ON THE COMMITTEE ASKED THAT THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU ACTUALLY

THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU ACTUALLY DID PUT INTO FOR A SUBPOENA AND

DID PUT INTO FOR A SUBPOENA AND GET THOSE NUMBERS BACK, WHO WAS

GET THOSE NUMBERS BACK, WHO WAS IT THAT ASKED THAT THEY BE CROSS

IT THAT ASKED THAT THEY BE CROSS CHECKED FOR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS?

CHECKED FOR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS? WHO ORDERED THAT?

WHO ORDERED THAT? >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S HOW WE

>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S HOW WE DID IT, SIR.

DID IT, SIR. >> NO, WHOA, WHOA.

>> NO, WHOA, WHOA. YOU CAME OUT WITH A REPORT THAT

YOU CAME OUT WITH A REPORT THAT SHOWED THESE PEOPLE SUCH AS

SHOWED THESE PEOPLE SUCH AS CHAIRMAN NUNEZ AND OTHERS WERE

CHAIRMAN NUNEZ AND OTHERS WERE ACTUALLY ON THESE CALLS.

ACTUALLY ON THESE CALLS. >> YES.

>> YES. >> NOW SOMEONE AND YOU AND I --

>> NOW SOMEONE AND YOU AND I -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY CUTE

WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY CUTE HERE.

HERE. SOMEBODY TOOK THE FOUR RECORDS

SOMEBODY TOOK THE FOUR RECORDS THAT YOU ASKED FOR, AT LEAST

THAT YOU ASKED FOR, AT LEAST FOUR, TOOK THOSE NUMBERS AND

FOUR, TOOK THOSE NUMBERS AND THEN SAID, HEY, LET'S PLAY MATCH

THEN SAID, HEY, LET'S PLAY MATCH GAME.

GAME. WHO ORDERED THE MATCH GAME FOR

WHO ORDERED THE MATCH GAME FOR MEMBERS OF THE CONGRESS AND THE

MEMBERS OF THE CONGRESS AND THE PRESS.

PRESS. WAS IT YOU?

WAS IT YOU? >> I DON'T THINK ANYONE DID,

>> I DON'T THINK ANYONE DID, SIR?

SIR? >> THEN HOW DID YOU --

>> THEN HOW DID YOU -- >> THAT'S THE MOST RIDICULOUS

>> THAT'S THE MOST RIDICULOUS ITEM I EVER HEARD.

ITEM I EVER HEARD. YOU DON'T JUST PICK UP NUMBERS

YOU DON'T JUST PICK UP NUMBERS IN WHICH YOU HAVE TO MATCH THE

IN WHICH YOU HAVE TO MATCH THE NUMBERS TO SHOW WHERE THEY ARE

NUMBERS TO SHOW WHERE THEY ARE AND YOU DON'T COME UP WITH THEM.

AND YOU DON'T COME UP WITH THEM. WHO ORDERED THEM?

WHO ORDERED THEM? >> WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IS

>> WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IS EXACTLY HOW IT HAPPENED?

EXACTLY HOW IT HAPPENED? >> WHO ORDERED TO FIND OUT IF

>> WHO ORDERED TO FIND OUT IF NUNEZ NUMBER WAS ON THE CALLS.

NUNEZ NUMBER WAS ON THE CALLS. >> IF I CAN EXPLAIN, SIR YOU

>> IF I CAN EXPLAIN, SIR YOU PICK AN EECHT OFVENT OF SIGNIFIC

PICK AN EECHT OFVENT OF SIGNIFIC AND YOU LOOK FOR SEQUENCING AND

AND YOU LOOK FOR SEQUENCING AND PATTERNS AND YOU LOOK FOR

PATTERNS AND YOU LOOK FOR NUMBERS AND TRY TO IDENTIFY WHAT

NUMBERS AND TRY TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE AND YOU BUILD

THE NUMBERS ARE AND YOU BUILD THE CASE.

THE CASE. >> YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE FOUR

>> YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE FOUR NUMBERS YOU ASK FOR TO SEE HOW

NUMBERS YOU ASK FOR TO SEE HOW THEY'RE CONNECTED.

THEY'RE CONNECTED. I UNDERSTAND THE SUBPOENA THAT

I UNDERSTAND THE SUBPOENA THAT YOU ISSUED.

YOU ISSUED. MY QUESTION, WAS IT YOU OR WAS

MY QUESTION, WAS IT YOU OR WAS IT CHAIRMAN SCHI IFFF THAT SAID

IT CHAIRMAN SCHI IFFF THAT SAID LET'S SEE IF THIS MATCHES

LET'S SEE IF THIS MATCHES CHAIRMAN NUNEZ'S NUMBER OR A

CHAIRMAN NUNEZ'S NUMBER OR A MEMBER OF THE PRESS'S NUMBER.

MEMBER OF THE PRESS'S NUMBER. SOMEBODY ALONG THE WAY DIDN'T

SOMEBODY ALONG THE WAY DIDN'T HAVE AN EPIPHANY THAT THESE

HAVE AN EPIPHANY THAT THESE NUMBERS MIGHT MATCH.

NUMBERS MIGHT MATCH. SO WHO DID IT?

SO WHO DID IT? WAS IT CHAIRMAN SCHIFF OR WAS IT

WAS IT CHAIRMAN SCHIFF OR WAS IT YOU?

YOU? BE CAREFUL.

BE CAREFUL. YOU'RE UNDER OATH.

YOU'RE UNDER OATH. >> I KNOW I'M UNDER OATH, SIR.

>> I KNOW I'M UNDER OATH, SIR. >> THEN ANSWER THE QUESTION.

>> THEN ANSWER THE QUESTION. >> I WILL ANSWER THE QUESTION IF

>> I WILL ANSWER THE QUESTION IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND HERE.

YOU GIVE ME A SECOND HERE. >> THE SAME SECOND WAS NOT

>> THE SAME SECOND WAS NOT AFFORDED TO MY WITNESS BY THE

AFFORDED TO MY WITNESS BY THE WAY.

WAY. >> WELL, I THINK HE WAS --

>> WELL, I THINK HE WAS -- >> WHO DECIDED TO LEAK IT?

>> WHO DECIDED TO LEAK IT? WHILE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW

WHILE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ANSWER THAT

YOU'RE GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, WHO DECIDED TO LEAK

QUESTION, WHO DECIDED TO LEAK IT?

IT? THE INFORMATION?

THE INFORMATION? WHY DID YOU INCLUDE IT IN A

WHY DID YOU INCLUDE IT IN A REPORT.

REPORT. >> THAT'S NOT A LEAK, SIR?

>> THAT'S NOT A LEAK, SIR? >> HOW DID YOU INCLUDE IT IN THE

>> HOW DID YOU INCLUDE IT IN THE REPORT?

REPORT? AFTER NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT

AFTER NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.

THIS. SO TWO QUESTIONS ARE HANGING OUT

SO TWO QUESTIONS ARE HANGING OUT THAT EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR AN

THAT EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER FOR INCLUDING ME.

ANSWER FOR INCLUDING ME. WHO ORDERED IT?

WHO ORDERED IT? WAS IT YOU OR WAS IT CHAIRMAN C

WAS IT YOU OR WAS IT CHAIRMAN C SCHIFF AND WHY WAS IT INCLUDED

SCHIFF AND WHY WAS IT INCLUDED IN THE SCHIFF REPORT?

IN THE SCHIFF REPORT? >> I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE

>> I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE DELIBERATIONS OF OUR

DELIBERATIONS OF OUR INVESTIGATION WITH YOU AND THE

INVESTIGATION WITH YOU AND THE REASON IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE

REASON IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE REPORT IS THE CALLS WERE

REPORT IS THE CALLS WERE SURROUNDING IMPORTANT EVIDENCE

SURROUNDING IMPORTANT EVIDENCE TO OUR INVESTIGATION AND I THINK

TO OUR INVESTIGATION AND I THINK THAT YOUR QUESTION IS FRANKLY

THAT YOUR QUESTION IS FRANKLY NOT BETTER DIRECTED NOT AT ME

NOT BETTER DIRECTED NOT AT ME BUT AT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE

BUT AT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH --

HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH -- >> NO, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO

>> NO, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY THAT GAME.

PLAY THAT GAME. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY THAT

WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY THAT GAME.

GAME. YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING THE

YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

QUESTION. AND EVERY MEMBER OF THE MEDIA,

AND EVERY MEMBER OF THE MEDIA, EVERYBODY HERE WHEN YOU START

EVERYBODY HERE WHEN YOU START GOING INTO THE DECORUM OF THIS

GOING INTO THE DECORUM OF THIS HOUSE AND YOU START LOOKING AT

HOUSE AND YOU START LOOKING AT MEMBERS TELEPHONE NUMBERS AND

MEMBERS TELEPHONE NUMBERS AND REPORTERS TELEPHONE NUMBERS

REPORTERS TELEPHONE NUMBERS WHICH THEY OUGHT TO BE SCARED

WHICH THEY OUGHT TO BE SCARED ABOUT.

ABOUT. YOU TOOK A SUBPOENA FOR FOUR AND

YOU TOOK A SUBPOENA FOR FOUR AND THEN YOU DECIDED TO PLAY MATCH

THEN YOU DECIDED TO PLAY MATCH GAME.

GAME. YOU FOUND NUMBERS THAT YOU

YOU FOUND NUMBERS THAT YOU THOUGHT -- SOME OF THEM DIDN'T

THOUGHT -- SOME OF THEM DIDN'T EXIST BECAUSE THEY CLAIMED THEY

EXIST BECAUSE THEY CLAIMED THEY WERE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE BUDGET

WERE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE BUDGET OFFICE AND THEY WERE NOT.

OFFICE AND THEY WERE NOT. SO WE'RE THROWING STORIES OUT

SO WE'RE THROWING STORIES OUT THERE.

THERE. SO I GO BACK TO MY QUESTION, ARE

SO I GO BACK TO MY QUESTION, ARE YOU GOING TO GO ON RECORD IN

YOU GOING TO GO ON RECORD IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY HERE TODAY

FRONT OF EVERYBODY HERE TODAY AND SAY YOU WILL NOT TELL WHO

AND SAY YOU WILL NOT TELL WHO ORDERED THIS?

ORDERED THIS? YOU OR MR. SCHIFF.

YOU OR MR. SCHIFF. >> I'M NOT GOING TO REVEAL HOW

>> I'M NOT GOING TO REVEAL HOW WE CONDUCTED THIS INVESTIGATION.

WE CONDUCTED THIS INVESTIGATION. >> AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE

>> AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH THIS ENTIRE THING.

HAVE WITH THIS ENTIRE THING. MR. SCHIFF BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

MR. SCHIFF BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. I'M DONE WITH YOU FOR RIGHT NOW.

I'M DONE WITH YOU FOR RIGHT NOW. WE'RE DONE.

WE'RE DONE. YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING THE

YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

QUESTION. YOU'RE NOT BEING HONEST ABOUT

YOU'RE NOT BEING HONEST ABOUT THIS ANSWER BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHO