LITIGATORS.

THE EMPHASIS IS ON COMFORT LEVEL

IN THE COURTROOM.

THE EMPHASIS IS MAKING THE

STRONGEST POSSIBLE CASE TO

PROTECT AND DEFEND OUR

CONSTITUTION, TO SEEK THE TRUTH

FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

>> Bill: HOUSE DEMOCRATS, YOU

HEARD IT LAST HOUR, MOVING

FORWARD NOW.

FOUR WEEKS LATER AFTER THE

IMPEACHMENT VOTE WAS PASSED IN

THE HOUSE.

THIS, AS WE LEARN NOW, THE

MANAGERS FOR THE CASE, SEVEN

CONGRESS MEMBERS FROM THE

DEMOCRATIC SIDE WILL SERVE AS

MANAGING THE

MANAGENG THE

MANAGERS THE

MANAGERS IHE

MANAGERS INE

MANAGERS IN THE SENATE.

KEN STARR, HAPPY NEW YEAR TWO.

A WAY TO GO NOW.

FIRST OF ALL, YOUR OBSERVATION

OF THE SEVEN THAT WERE CHOSEN,

AND NAMED LAST HOUR?

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT, IF

MUCH?

>> I THINK THE SPEAKER CHOSE

WELL AND WISELY.

OTHER THAN I HAVE SOME

RESERVATIONS ABOUT JERRY NADLER

IN TERMS OF HIS COURTROOM

ABILITIES.

HE IS JUST TENDING TO BE, AS HE

WAS IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE,

JUST OVER THE TOP.

HE ALSO SAID EVERYTHING IS

ALREADY BEEN PROVEN.

SO THERE'S AN INCOHERENCE IN

JERRY NADLER'S APPROACH TO

THINGS.

BUT WE NOW HAVE THE FIELD

MARSHALS, THE GENERALS.

THAT REPORTING INTO THEIR

COMMANDER IN CHIEF, THE SPEAKER.

SHE IS GOING TO, I THINK,

CONTINUE TO BE GUIDING THIS

PROCESS.

WHICH IS, ABOVE ALL, ALL ABOUT

WITNESSES ON THE SENATE SIDE.

I THINK SHE HAS CHOSEN WELL AND

WISELY.

>> Bill: WHAT ADAM SCHIFF SAID

A MOMENT AGO, HE REFLECTED ON

YOUR TIME, 20, 21 YEARS AGO.

HE WAS ADDRESSING A QUESTION

ABOUT WITNESSES.

HE WAS SAYING THAT THIS TIME

AROUND IT'S NOT ABOUT SEX OR

UNSEEMLY MATTERS.

THE INFERENCE THAT HE APPLIED

THERE.

MY QUESTION TO YOU, AS A MATTER

OF LAW, AS A PROSECUTOR OR A

TRIAL MANAGER, YOU DON'T GET TO

PICK YOUR FACTS.

THE CASE IS WHAT IT IS.

WAS YOUR FEELING ON THE COMMENT

HE MADE THERE AS TO WHETHER OR

NOT WE WILL SEE WITNESSES?

DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN OR

NOT?

>> IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN,

BECAUSE I THINK THE SENATE

MAJORITY LEADER IS FOLLOWING THE

CLINTON MODEL.

THERE IS A HUGE QUESTION -- WILL

THERE BE WITNESSES IN THE HOUSE

IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS DURING THE

CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DIFFERENTLY

CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESFERENTLY

CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERENTLY

CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERANTLY

CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERATELYW

CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERATELYN

CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERATELYE

CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERATELYD

TO CALL WITNESSES.

THEY WERE AND THEY WERE ABLE TO

DO THAT.

THEY WERE ABLE

TO TAKE.

THE CENTERS AGREED YEARS AGO,

"WE DON'T WANT ANY LIVE

WITNESSES, LET'S HAVE THE

MANAGERS MAKE THEIR CASE.

THEN THEY WILL VOTE TO HAVE WITH

THEN THEY WILL VOTE WHETHER TO

HAVE WITNESSES AT ALL.

PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO.

WE WILL HEAR THE DRUM BEAT.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE WITNESSES.

BY THE WAY, THE WITNESSES CANNOT

INCLUDE THE BIDENS.

THAT'S JUST OUT.

WE WANT OUR WITNESSES BUT WE

DON'T WANT THE PRESIDENT TO --

>> Bill: SO BETWEEN PHASE ONE

AND PHASE TWO, WHAT IS YOUR

GUEST?

DO YOU HAVE WITNESSES IN THIS

TRIAL ARE NOT?

IF THE ANSWER IS NO, YOU GOT A

SHORT CASE HERE.

>> YOU DO.

THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PRESSURE

ON THE IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS TO

PERFORM WELL.

IF THEY OVERPLAYED THEIR HAND

THE WAY JERRY NADLER JUST DID,

"WE'VE ALREADY PROVEN THE CASE,"

IF YOU'VE PROVEN THE CASE YOU

DON'T NEED TO RETRY THE CASE.

THAT IS PRECISELY THE APPROACH

FROM 21 YEARS AGO.

WE DON'T NEED IT.

100 SENATORS SAYING WE DON'T

NEED IT, WE DON'T WANT IT.

THESE ARE REPUBLICANS AND

DEMOCRATS COMPLETELY AGREEING.

THAT WILL BE A REAL KEY.

CAN YOU PROVE THIS IS VERY

SERIOUS?

BUT WE REALLY NEED THESE

WITNESSES EVEN THOUGH

JERRY NADLER SAYS WE PROVED

BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

>> Bill: LET ME GET TWO MORE

POINTS IN THE 2 MINUTES I HAVE

LEFT.

IF THAT'S THE CASE THAT YOU ARE

RIGHT ABOUT THE OUTCOME THEY

DON'T BRING WITNESSES AND BOTH

SIDES AGREE TO THAT AFTER A LOT

OF DEBATE BACK AND FORTH, THEN

YOU CAN VOTE ON THE ARTICLES AT

THAT POINT, COULD YOU NOT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THAT WILL BE IT.

YOU THEN HAVE THE CLOSING

ARGUMENTS ON EACH SIDE.

BUT YOU ASKED ME TO PROTECT -- I

PREDICT THERE WILL BE WITNESSES.

WE HAVE HAD TOO MANY INDICATIONS

FROM TOO MANY DIFFERENT SENATORS

THAT THEY WANT THIS.

REMEMBER, AND CLINTON THERE WERE

100 SENATORS AGREEING ON THE

PROCESS.

HERE WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF

UNANIMITY.

>> Bill: WHO WAS A WITNESS,

THEN?

WHO APPEARS?

>> I THINK THE TOP ONE IS

JOHN BOLTON FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

AND THE REPUBLICANS REALLY DO

WANT HUNTER BIDEN.

>> Bill: SO YOU THINK 11?

>> THERE WILL BE A BETTER ROI

OLIVER HUNTER BIDEN.

WE ALREADY SAW IT THIS.

THIS WILL COME DOWN TO THE CHIEF

JUSTICE.

THIS IS A VIEW OF THE SENATE AND

51 VOTES IS ALL IT TAKES.

A MAJORITY TO CALL THE WITNESS.

>> Bill: YOU ARE PREDICTING

TODAY WE WILL HEAR FROM

JOHN BOLTON?

YOU WERE SAYING THAT AFTER BIDEN

COULD APPEAR AS A WITNESS COMMIT

YES OR NO?

>> YES IT'S A POSSIBILITY, BUT

IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN HOW FACE

ONE OF THE TRAIL GOES.

IF THE IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS

DON'T DO A FANTASTIC JOB, AND

THEY MAY NOT COME OF THIS CASE

MAY BE OVER.

>> Bill: CAN, THANK YOU.

LET'S TALK LATER IN THE WEEK AND

TAKE IT PIECE BY PIECE AND DAY

BY DAY.