>> EARLIER I CAUGHT UP WITH TED

CRUZ ON CAPITOL HILL TO GET HIS

TAKE ON OPENING ARGUMENTS FROM

TRUMP'S DEFENSE TEAM IN CASE THE

DEMS LAYOUT EARLIER THIS WEEK.

TAKE A LOOK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING

TIME OUT, I KNOW IT IS A BUSY

DAY AND I KNOW YOU BEEN IN

WASHINGTON FOR A LONG TIME.

BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR

DOING THIS.

TODAY WAS A VERY INTERESTING

DAY.

TODAY WAS THE FIRST DAY THAT THE

PRESIDENT'S TEAM HAD OPPORTUNITY

TO LAY OUT WHAT IT IS THE INTENT

TO PROVE.

YOU BEEN IN MANY COURTROOMS,

WHAT DID IT FEEL LIKE TODAY,

HOW'S IT DIFFERENT, HE'S IN

POWER, HE'S DONE THIS, YOU THINK

HE'S A DICTATOR.

>> I THINK IT WAS GRATIFYING,

THEN FIRST TIME THE PRESIDENT

HAS HAD TO DEFEND HIM THROUGHOUT

THE WHOLE PROCEEDING IN THE

HOUSE, THEY WOULD NOT LET THE

PRESIDENT DEFEND HIMSELF.

I THINK EVERY SENATOR IS

GRATEFUL THAT THE NEVER ENDING

OPENING ARGUMENT, THE 24 HOURS

OF NONSTOP FROM THE HOUSE

MANAGERS OPEN.

AS THEY ARE CLOSING ARGUMENT

ENDED LAST NIGHT, MY SENSE IN

THE SENSE OF A LOT OF PEOPLE,

THEY FAILED TO PROVE THEIR CASE.

TODAY THE PRESIDENT'S LAWYERS,

DID INEFFECTIVE JOB REPORTING

HOW SELECTIVE THEIR QUOTATIONS

WERE FROM THE RECORD, HOW MUCH

THEY LEFT OUT AND I'M REALLY

LOOKING FORWARD TO MONDAY.

ON MONDAY STARTING AT 1:00 P.M.

WE COME BACK TO THE TRIAL IN THE

PRESIDENT'S LAWYERS WILL PRESENT

THE PRINTABLE DEFENSE AND WHAT I

HOPE TO HEAR FROM THEM IS A

SUBSTANCE DEFENSE ON THE MERITS.

THAT LAYS OUT THE CASE ON THE

FACTS FOR THE PRESIDENT'S

INNOCENCE.

I THINK THE HOUSE MANAGERS MADE

A CRITICAL MISTAKE ON HOW THEY

STRUCTURE THEIR ARGUMENT.

A CENTRAL ELEMENT OF THEIR

ARGUMENT IS A PROPOSITION THAT

IT WAS FACELESS AND FRIVOLOUS TO

WANT TO INVESTIGATE MARIE'S MOM

UKRAINIAN NATURAL GAS COMPANY

AND WHETHER OR NOT JOE BIDEN AND

HUNTER BIDEN WERE PAYING 100

BUCKS A YEAR IN THEY PRESSURED

HIM AND THREATENED $1 BILLION IN

AID TO FORCE UKRAINE TO FIRE THE

PROSECUTOR WHO WAS INVESTIGATING

BURISMA.

>> HOW DOES THIS TRIAL RESOLVE

ANY OF THAT.

THIS IS ABOUT ONE DEFENDANT AND

I HATE EVEN REFERRING TO HIM AS

THAT.

>> THE HOUSE MANAGERS LAID OUT

THE PROPOSITION THAT IT WAS

BASELESS, FRAUDULENT, PHONY AND

NO BASIS WHATSOEVER FOR SEEKING

AN INVESTIGATION INTO BURISMA,

THE TOTAL ANSWER IS THERE WAS

OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE OF

CORRUPTION AND A PRESIDENT IS

ALWAYS JUSTIFIED.

HE HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO

INVESTIGATE CORRUPTION.

THE FUNDAMENTAL ARGUMENT THAT

DISPOSES OF THIS CASE, IT MAKES

CLEAR THE PRESIDENT DID NOTHING

IMPEACHABLE AS HE HAS THE

AUTHORITY TO INVESTIGATE

CORRUPTION.

THE HOUSE MANAGER GOES FROM THE

DOOR DID HUNTER BIDEN TESTIFY,

THEY MADE IT RELEVANT AND

CRITICAL.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE

THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WAS VERY

IMPORTANT THAT MIGHT LEAD TO A

MOTION TO DISMISS.

I WANT YOUR OPINION THAT, THEY

BASICALLY SAID THAT THE SECOND

ARTICLE OF OBSTRUCTION IS NOT

BASED IN ANY THING SUBSTANTIVE

BECAUSE THE HOUSE THAT NANCY

PELOSI ANNOUNCE WE ARE GOING TO

BEGIN THIS IMPEACHMENT

INVESTIGATION HAD NO

JURISDICTION OF AUTHORITY TO

GRANT SUBPOENAS.

THEREFORE IF THE PRESIDENT DID

NOT ABIDE BY THE SUBPOENAS IT IS

NOT OBSTRUCTION.

THERE HAS TO BE A VOTE IN THE

HOUSE.

>> THAT IS CERTAINLY A LEGAL

ARGUMENT THAT THE PRESIDENT'S

LAWYERS ARE PUTTING FORTH, THEY

PUT IT IN FORTH IN THEIR BRIEF.

THE OBSTRUCTION CHARGES

SECONDARY TO THE HOUSE MANAGERS

CASE.

THIS CASE -- I DON'T THINK YOU

WILL SEE A MOTION TO DISMISS.

THE WAY THINGS THEY WILL PLAY

OUT, WE WILL SEE THE OPENING

ARGUMENT CONTINUE ON MONDAY,

MAYBE TUESDAY THEN WE WILL HAVE

16 HOURS OF QUESTIONS FROM

SENATORS.

WE CANNOT ASSESS QUESTIONS

OURSELVES, I WOULD LOVE TO GO

ROUND AND ROUND WITH ADAM

SCHIFF, BUT THE SENATE RULES DO

NOT ALLOW.

INSTEAD WE HAVE TO WRITE YOUR

QUESTIONS IN THE CHIEF JUSTICE

WILL ASK QUESTIONS FOR US.

WHAT I EXPECT TO SEE AFTER THAT,

WE WILL VOTE ON ADDITIONAL

WITNESSES IT BE NECESSARY AND

WHETHER IN ORDER.

THAT MAY BE A CLOSE VOTE, WE

KNOW 47 DEMOCRATS WILL VOTE YES.

THERE MIGHT BE FOR REPUBLICANS

WHO VOTE WITH THEM.

I DO NOT KNOW.

>> THOSE SUPPORT ROMNEY AND

SUSAN COLLINS AND LISA

MURKOWSKI, AND LAMAR?

>> THAT'S THE RUMOR.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S NEED FOR

ADDITIONAL WITNESSES, WE HAVE

MORE THAN ENOUGH TO REJECT THESE

ARTICLES ON THE MERITS BUT THEY

HAVE NOT PROVEN THEIR CASE.

>> AND THERE IN THE MOTION TO

DISMISS.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE A

MOTION TO DISMISS.

>> IT'LL BE INITIALLY A VOTE ON

WITNESSES.

IF WE'LL VOTE NO ADDITIONAL

WITNESSES ARE NECESSARY, THE

NEXT VOTE WILL BE A MASON FOR

JUSTICE.

RATHER THAN DISMISS WE WILL GO

TO JUDGMENT AND ACQUIT THE

PRESIDENT WHICH MEANS WE WILL

STAND UP AND VOTE GUILTY OR NOT

GUILTY ON EACH OF THE ARTICLES.

IT'S A MUCH BETTER OUTCOME FOR

THE PRESIDENT AND COUNTRY FOR

HIM TO BE ACQUITTED, NOT

DISMISSED AND THROW THE CASE OUT

BUT REACH FINAL JUDGMENT AND

FIND THE PRESIDENT NOT GUILTY.

THAT WILL BE THE END OF THIS

BECAUSE THE HOUSE MANAGERS HAVE

NOT MET THE CONSTITUTIONAL

STANDARD APPROVING HIGH CRIMES

AND MISDEMEANORS.

THE PRESIDENT HAS THE AUTHORITY

TO INVESTIGATE SERIOUS

ALLEGATION OF CORRUPTION.

THERE WERE MASSIVE ALLEGATIONS

OF CORRUPTION, AT LEAST ENOUGH

EVIDENCE TO JUSTIFY AN

INVESTIGATION.

>> IN THE END, HOW LONG YOU

THINK THIS WILL TAKE.

I KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT THE

WITNESSES TAKING TIME.

>> THERE'S A FORK IN THE ROAD,

IF IT IS 51 SENATORS VOTE, WE

DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL AND THIS

WILL END NEXT WEEK.

IF 51 SENATORS SAY WE NEED

ADDITIONAL WITNESSES, IF THAT

HAPPENS WE HAVE GOT TO BE FAIR,

WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PRINCIPLE

WHICH MEANS IF THEY GET JOHN

BOLTON, WE GET HUNTER BIDEN.

WE GO DOWN THE ROAD TO

WITNESSES, THIS COULD TAKE WEEKS

OR MONTHS.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THE

RESULT WILL BE THE SAME.

WHAT I DO EVERY DAY WHEN I LEAVE

THE TRIAL, I AM GOING IN

BUILDING A PODCAST, HIS VERDICT

WITH TED CRUZ, I BILLED IT AT

THREE IN THE MORNING BECAUSE

THAT'S WHEN WE WERE DONE.

JUST TALKING ABOUT ANY DETAIL

FORM, THE FACTS, THE SUBSTANCE

IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES AT

STAKE.

I'VE NEVER DONE A PODCAST

BEFORE, IN FOUR DAYS WOULD

BECOME THE NUMBER TWO PODCAST IN

THE COUNTRY.

>> CONGRATULATIONS.

SECONDLY THIS IS YOUR REAL

HOUSE, I WAS IN THERE TODAY, I

WAS AFRAID I WAS GOING TO FALL

OVER THE RAILING.

BUT I HEAR PEOPLE FALLING ASLEEP

AND I SAY TO MYSELF HOW CAN YOU

FALL ASLEEP, IT'S EXCITING.

BUT IT'S EXCITING HAVING YOU