The real danger is when companies and politicians

are making it look like real action is happening,

when in fact, almost nothing is being done.

The time I spent in the US so far, it has been good.

It's incredible to meet all of these activists around the world

because we are, we are so different in many ways,

but still we are fighting for the same cause.

People always talk about there's 12 years left,

11 years left, do to the emissions by 50 or 55 percent.

And then I learned that that was for a 50/50 percent chance

of meeting, or staying below the 1.

5 degrees or eminent and those figures are also global.

So they don't mention the aspect of equity.

Also, they don't include many feedback loops,

and nonlinear tipping points.

All the numbers are sort of, like, compromised, in a way.

And it feels like people don't want to,

to make people not pessimistic

or they don't want to tell how it is

because then people might give up.

We cannot just say all these negative facts.

We also have to tell positive facts,

so that people will not give up.

And those positive news can be, like, oh, look,

here are some new solar panels.

But we have to tell it like it is.

We have to tell people the whole truth.

Or at least have the whole truth available.

That if people want to know, they can look at it.

I think that we have definitely made people open their eyes.

At least some people.

And, uh, but we are not saying, like, you need to listen to us,

we are saying you need to listen to the science

and to the scientists.

We are trying to give the science platform.

And try to speak on behalf of them.

If a child or a young person talks about these issues,

of course it's more powerful in a way,

because we are not the ones who has posed this crisis,

we are just -- we just happen to be born

in a world where there was this big existential crisis.

That has a lot of impact on people.

People feel very guilty when a child says,

"You are stealing my future."

People sometimes ask me if I'm an optimist or a pessimist

and then I say I am a realist.

That's if we do the changes required,

then we will prevent this from happening

and we will succeed.