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  • It's a theme as old as money itself. The struggle between the rich and the poor.

  • And it became especially apparent after the financial crisis. People were losing

  • money hand over fist in the market, millions lost their jobs and their homes.

  • Trust in Wall Street was at its lowest point in memory. People were protesting

  • in the streets. One company launched a stock trading app in the shadow of the

  • crisis, Robinhood. Named after the English fairy tale character who took

  • from the rich and gave to the poor.

  • Good sword. Good archers. Good fighters. Are you with me? (Cheers)

  • But those guys didn't start a 5.6 billion dollar company. These guys did.

  • It's an eye-popping valuation for a financial company with opaque metrics

  • and plenty of competition. The young company had its share of missteps as

  • well. Too good to be true? Well for Robin Hood that might be the case. We know that

  • this practice is highly criticized, not only from regulators but also from

  • consumer advocates. Yhey say that they were inspired by the financial crisis

  • and all that. Well, guess what? They're getting a huge chunk of their revenue

  • from high-frequency trading. Prompting questions over whether or not

  • they can handle primetime. But let's go back to the beginning.

  • Today's Robinhood, the app, was founded by two people who were fed up with the way

  • you had to trade or at least they knew others were fed up. We're focused on

  • building an awesome user experience. Onboarding something like a 150,000

  • customers in such a short period of time is is pretty much

  • unprecedented in the brokerage industry. The cost to trade had come down so far

  • in the last 20 years. Since online trading began, why not make it free?

  • Now if you want to invest in the stock market without paying fees, there's an

  • app for that. Since Robin Hood came into the App Store, we've saved customers over

  • five million dollars in commissions. All in the theme of sticking it to the banks.

  • The mission of Robin Hood is to democratize America's financial system.

  • But there was something else that made this product work. We were already

  • addicted to our phones. Robin Hood made trading easy on the device we were

  • looking at all day. The combination incredible growth. The company launched

  • in 2013, just over a year late, they had hundreds of thousands of people on a

  • waiting list. The beginning of 2018, they had three million customers. By the

  • end of that year they had doubled that amount to six million users. The darling

  • of FinTech. Many believe the company is revolutionary. Where they are really

  • groundbreaking is how fast they're moving and how much they're pushing the

  • envelope. You know, they can't be dismissed because there is something in

  • being able to double time and time again where clearly you're resonating with

  • consumers and then this speed at which are offering new types of capabilities, I

  • don't think anything companies could move that fast.

  • But there are questions about how much money is really in the accounts. Robinhood

  • gets a lot of attention because the account growth has been really

  • impressive and everything like that. But there's very little money there. With

  • Schwab, Ameritrade, we have larger accounts accounts that are in hundreds

  • of thousands. Not single-digit thousands on average, which is the last time we

  • looked at Robinhood. A JMP analysis estimates

  • the average assets and Robin Hood accounts to be one to five thousand

  • dollars. That's compared to a $100,000 for Fidelity, a $110,000 for TD Ameritrade and about $240,000 for Charles Schwab.

  • Robin Hood would not disclose account values when asked by CNBC. We

  • don't know exactly where the account sizes are. I suspect that based on the

  • types of accounts, they're typically lower acid accounts and so

  • they're going to be less profitable today. But I think probably one of the

  • key things to think about is that a small account today could be a large

  • account in the future. Especially, if you're getting to the customer when

  • they're young or early in their financial life. Not only could they take

  • on brokers like TD Ameritrade and Charles Schwab, they might just challenge

  • the big banks too. Especially, if you add more capabilities and more service and

  • then service the cash in the account. Hopefully, you have an opportunity to

  • compete for a higher percentage of the wallet. Which some of the big incumbents

  • are doing quite well today. There are also other startups trying to take

  • advantage of this trend. A slew of investing oriented apps have come on the

  • market in the last few years, including Betterman,Acorns, Stash and more. But it

  • is not as easy to take the Silicon Valley approach of moving fast and

  • breaking things in FinTech. There are plenty of competitors with really deep

  • pockets and of course tons and tons of regulation. Some have called out a

  • hypocritical side to the FinTech unicorn that makes it not so different from

  • old-school Wall Street. In October, Bloomberg reported that the company gets

  • almost half of its revenue through a practice called "payment for order flow,"

  • meaning a company's pain Robin Hood to be the other side of your trade on the

  • platform or at least get the first right of refusal. it's a controversial practice

  • but commonplace among online brokers. It means your orders aren't happening on a

  • public exchange but behind closed doors in a dark pool. Some say it helps market

  • efficiencies because companies invest in making faster trades. Others say, it's

  • just a way for high-speed computerized traders to skim off every trade keeping

  • markets opaque. The SEC has proposed a pilot program to

  • look into the practice. There's a concern maybe it's taking advantage. The

  • arguments are to improve liquidity. That it takes what would be a small trade and

  • aggregates it and allows it to get a better execution quality. The reason to

  • run a pilot is to make sure that those claims are all actually valid. Robinhood

  • would not disclose how much it makes from this practice to CNBC but the

  • company did offer an explanation of the system on its website saying: "We send

  • your orders to market makers that allow you to receive better execution quality

  • and better prices. The revenue we receive helps us cover the cost of operating our

  • business and allows us to offer you commission-free trading. The question is

  • can accompany the built a name, literally on fairness, convinced its customers it's

  • on their side. One way to do it, is to offer better interest rates and that's

  • exactly what Robinoohd tried to do. In December, the company announced three

  • percent checking and savings accounts. Compare that to the national average of

  • .09 percent offered by most savings accounts. For the median American

  • house that's got about 8,000 dollars in the bank, this adds up to a

  • staggering 240 dollars a year. Except, the company isn't a bank.

  • The move ended up being a fiasco. There are a lot of concerns about masquerading

  • as a bank. Banks are tightly regulated in this country and so if you have

  • something that doesn't have the sort of safeguards put in place around those

  • operations and you try and present yourself as a bank they're not going to

  • allow that. So I reached out to Robinhood. They wouldn't provide any details

  • about the potential relaunch of the cash management account. They pointed me to a

  • blog post and said to "stay tuned." On top of all of that, the market may be turning.

  • While accounts were almost surely growing with a broader stock market for years,

  • Millennials, already scarred by entering the job

  • market during the financial crisis, have now gotten just a taste of their first

  • bear market. Robinhood gained millions of users just after announcing you could

  • trade Cryptocurrencies on the platform in early 2018. But for the people who

  • invested in Bitcoin the day the company started allowing crypt

  • trades, things probably aren't looking so great. They lost almost two-thirds of

  • their money by the end of the year. At the same time, a younger generation of

  • traders may be willing to stomach more risk and volatile markets could be an

  • opportunity for Robinhood. When times are volatile, consumers typically look

  • for help or they look for more types of professional capabilities. So volatility

  • in the moment can be chilling and can be startling to the customer. But it tends

  • to actually accelerate growth. So what's next for Robinhood? The company claims

  • its users have transacted over a 150 billion dollars on the

  • platform and saved over a billion in commission fees as of May 2018. It's

  • beefing up its executive staff, hiring an Amazon veteran as its first CFO, as it

  • tiptoes towards an IPO. It's not like Robin Hood hasn't faced challenges before.

  • We'll see if today's financial product can live up to the legend.

It's a theme as old as money itself. The struggle between the rich and the poor.

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