and I think a lot of the superdelegates

are now beginning to look at which Democratic candidate

is in the best place to defeat Donald Trump.

I think some of them are beginning to understand

that it's Bernie Sanders.

-If you do not secure the majority of pledge delegates,

do you still believe that superdelegates

should switch and back you? -Yes.

-In essence, rejecting the opinion of the voters.

-If those superdelegates conclude that Bernie Sanders

is the best candidate,

the strongest candidate to defeat Trump and anybody else,

yes, I would very much welcome their support.

-Should the person with the most pledged

delegates be the Democratic nominee?

-Well, I think if that was the only criteria,

then you get rid of all the superdelegates,

which may not be a bad idea, but you do have superdelegates.

You got 700 superdelegates.

And I am not a great fan of superdelegates,

but their job is to take an objective look at reality.

And I think the reality is that we are the stronger candidates.

For those superdelegates who came on board

before I was even in the race,

you have got the very grave responsibility

to make sure that Trump does not become

elected president of the United States.

Vote for the strongest candidate.

-If, in fact, Hillary Clinton wins the majority of pledge

delegates on top of what she's done with superdelegates,

are you gonna try to turn them?

-Yeah, we are. We're on the phone right now.

-You'd be defying history.

You'd be defying the will of the voter, right?

Hillary Clinton is -- -Well, defying history

is what this campaign has been about.

I think that the will of the people should prevail, yes.

The person with the most votes should become the nominee.