Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles DANA PERINO. "THE FIVE" "THE FIVE." TULSI GABBARD AND HILLARY. TULSI IS WINNING. >> PEOPLE WARNED ME THAT MY ENDORSEMENT OF BERNIE SANDERS WOULD BE THE END OF MY "POLITICAL CAREER." IF THEY CAN FALSELY CALL ME A TRAITOR, THEY CAN DO IT TO ANYONE. IF YOU STAND UP TO HILLARY, THEY WILL DISCREDIT YOU. BUT HERE IS THE TRUTH. THEY WILL NOT INTIMIDATE US. >> Greg: IT'S LIKE A MESSAGE FROM THE FUTURE PURGES LIKE A HAWAIIAN SARAH CONNOR. EVEN TRUMP WEIGHED IN. >> President Trump: HILLARY CLINTON. IF YOU'VE HEARD OF HER, SHE'S THE ONE THAT IS ACCUSING ANYONE OF BEING A RUSSIAN AGENT. TULSI, I DON'T KNOW TULSI, BUT SHE'S NOT A RUSSIAN AGENT. I DON'T KNOW JOEL STEIN. I KNOW SHE LIKES ENVIRONMENTS. THE ENVIRONMENT ENVIRONMENT. I DON'T THINK SHE LIKES RUSSIANS. I THINK THAT TULSI GABBARD PROBABLY GOT HELPED A LOT. >> Greg: MEANWHILE, ON MSNBC PANEL MOCKED TULSI FOR NOT DENYING THAT SHE WAS A RUSSIAN ACID. >> ONE THING THAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT TULSI GABBARD'S RESPONSE, SHE SAID THAT SHE WASN'T GOING TO RUN. SHE NEVER DENIED BEING A RUSSIAN ACID. [LAUGHTER] THAT WAS ONE THING THAT WAS MISSING FROM HER RESPONSE. IT WAS NOT THERE. >> Greg: WHAT A GOOGLE FAST. WHAT A SET OF. SPEAKING OF WHICH, HERE'S JOY. >> SHE HASN'T DENIED IT. SHE HASN'T SAID ANYTHING IN HER TWEETS. HOW DARE YOU. SHE DIDN'T SAY THAT. SHE'S JUST GOING AFTER HILLARY. I JUST THINK THAT SHE COULD BE A USEFUL IDIOT THE WAY TRUMP IS A USEFUL IDIOT. THEY SAY, OH, LOOK, A USEFUL IDIOT. LET'S PLAY THIS. >> Greg: JOY CALLING SOMEONE IN A DEED. IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO REMINDS YOU OF THE PAST, IT'S A CLINTON. THEIR FAVORITE SMEAR, RUSSIAN ASSETS. THEY SAID TRUMP WAS ONE. AND NOW, THEY ARE SAYING THAT IT IS A YOUNG VETERAN WHO SERVED HER COUNTRY WHILE REJECTING CONVENTIONAL IDEOLOGY. THERE'S LOTS TO DISAGREE WITH ON TULSI, BUT AT LEAST YOU KNOW SHE'S REAL, WHICH IS WHY THE DEMS FEAR HER. THEY CAN'T FIGURE HER OUT. MAYBE THAT'S WHY SO MANY REPUBLICANS LIKE HER. SHE ISN'T MANUFACTURED TO PLEASE THE BOSS AT MSNBC. BUT HILLARY IS. HER COMMENTARY KEEPS REMINDING YOU OF WHY TRUMP WON. THINK ABOUT IT. SHE SAYS THAT A SO-CALLED RUSSIAN ASSET WOULD SPLIT THE DEMOCRATIC VOTE IF SHE WENT ROGUE. DESPITE RED HILLARY CLAIMS, TULSI IS NO JOEL STEIN. SHE IS NOT TO THE LEFT OF THE DEMS, BUT TO THE RIGHT OF THE DEMS. SHE MAKES IT CLEAR WHO THE REPUBLICAN ASSET IS. ARE WE SURE THAT SHE IS NOT ON TRUMP'S PAYROLL? I HAVE A THEORY. I HAVEN'T NAMED IT YET, BUT I CALL IT SMEAR BY EXTERNAL PREFERENCE. THAT MEANS THAT YOU CAN BE IN A VERY POPULAR PUNK BAND, BUT AMONG YOUR FANS ARE SKINHEADS. IF SOMEONE COULD SAY, OH, YOU ARE A SKIN HAD. SOME OF THEM ARE RUSSIAN. SOME OF THEM ARE CANADIAN. SHE CAN'T HELP, LIKEWISE, WE CAN'T HELP WHO ARE FANS ARE. SO, IF CANADIANS LIKE YOU, ARE YOU A CANADIAN ASSET? DO YOU SEE MY POINT? >> YES. I'M NOT A CANADIAN ACID. I PUBLICLY REBUFF JUSTIN BIEBER AT ANY OPPORTUNITY. YOU MENTIONED THE WORD BITTER. I WROTE DOWN, BITTERNESS IS HILLARY CLINTON'S FAVORITE COLOR OF LIPSTICK. ALL OF HER FAILURES, SHE CAN'T TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THEM. TO HER FANS, AND THERE ARE STILL A FEW, SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BEAT TRUMP, BUT IN THAT PLUS PODCAST THAT SHE DID, OF COURSE, SHE HAS TO GO AFTER FOX NEWS. SHE LONGS FOR THE DAY WHERE THERE WERE JUST THREE TELEVISION NETWORKS AND A FEW NEWSPAPERS, AND SHE ACTUALLY HAD THE AUDACITY TO SAY IT WAS A MUCH MORE CONTROLLABLE ENVIRONMENT. SO, IT'S A LOT HARDER FOR AMERICANS TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE. THAT'S HOW SHE VIEWS THE WORLD, THAT SHE IS OUT THERE TO -- THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY BELIEVE AND THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN YOU. >> Greg: E. DON'T YOU AGREE THAT IF TULSI RAN, WANTED IT HURTS TRUMP MORE THAN IT WOULD HURT THE DEMS? IN MY WRONG? I SENSE THAT. >> Dana: I THINK THAT ON THE LEFT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SOME ON THE LEFT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TULSI GABBARD IS THAT SHE IS NOT ANTIWAR PURCHASE KIND OF A HAWK, BUT SHE WOULD USE DRONES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE ARE A LOT OF LIBERALS WHO DON'T WANT THAT AT ALL EITHER. LIBERTARIANS, I'M NOT SURE THEY ARE SO MUCH FOR THAT AS WELL. 1.4 MILLION PEOPLE VOTED FOR JOEL STEIN IN THE ELECTION. OUT OF 330 ODD MILLION PEOPLE, THAT'S NOT THAT MANY. BUT IF YOU WERE ONE OF THEM, WOULD YOU BE MOTIVATED TO RETURN TO THE DEMOCRATIC POLL? PROBABLY NOT. I DON'T NECESSARILY, I DON'T THINK THAT MEANS THAT SHE'S GOING TO ALL OF THE SITE GOING TO ALL OF THE SUDE GOING TO ALL OF THE SUDDEN TURN TO REPUBLICAN VOTERS. SHE GOT A TON OF FREE PUBLICITY. AND FOR WHAT? WHAT HAS IT ACCOMPLISHED FOR HILLARY CLINTON? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ANYTHING. >> Greg: MAY BE MORE BOOK SALES, BECAUSE SHE NEEDS THE MONEY, YOU KNOW. ONE OF MY SMARTEST FRIENDS, WALTER, IS 100% POSITIVE THAT SHE'S ENTERING THE RACE. ONE OF MY OTHER SMART FRIENDS, SCOTT, SAYS THAT THERE IS NO WA WAY. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? DO THINK THIS IS ALL BECAUSE SHE'S COMING BACK? >> Jesse: NO, I DON'T THINK THAT SHE'S GOING TO ENTER THE RACE. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE HER. THEY DON'T LIKE HER ON THE RIGHT, THEY DON'T LIKE HER IN THE MIDDLE, AND NOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE LEFT DON'T LIKE HER. SHE'S A FEMINIST, GREG. THINK ABOUT THAT. THIS WOMAN WENT OVERSEAS TO LAY HER LIFE DOWN FOR HER COUNTRY AND HILLARY IS SMEARING HER AS A RUSSIAN. SHE PROBABLY ACTUALLY HAD SNIPER FIRE OVER HER HEAD. HILLARY IS SO TOUGH ON RUSSIA. I MEAN COME A FEW YEARS AGO, SHE WAS GIGGLING, LAUGHING IT UP. SHE'S SO TOUGH? A COUPLE YEARS AGO, SHE CALLED ASSAD A REFORMER. A REFORMER. NANCY PELOSI AND A BUNCH OF DEMOCRATS WENT OVER TO SYRIA. SHE SHOOK HANDS WITH A SAUD. NOW THEY HAVE TO KILL HIM TO BE TOUGH? AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KILL HIM, YOU ARE A RUSSIAN ACID? IT'S SO CRAZY. THE DEMOCRATS HAVE NEVER BEEN TOUGH ON RUSSIA. THEY WERE AGAINST EVERYTHING RONALD REAGAN WAS DOING TO DEFEAT THE SOVIET UNION. ROMNEY GOT MOCKED FOR SAYING -- NOW, THEY SAY, OH, IF YOU ARE NOT AGAINST RUSSIA. PROXY WARS. BUT THEY HACK A DEMOCRAT'S COMPUTER, AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN, WE ARE IN WORLD WAR III? >> Greg: ALL RIGHT, JUAN. IS SHE A RUSSIAN AGENT? BEFORE I DON'T KNOW. >> Greg: ALL, JUAN. ARE YOU A RUSSIAN AGENT, JUAN? >> Juan: COULD BE. SHE HAS NO POLITICAL FUTURE. SHE IS NOT RUNNING. I THINK THAT WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS THAT SHE IS FREE TO SPEAK HER MIND, AND SHE DOES NOT WANT A REPEAT OF WHAT HAPPENED TO A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE IN 2016. BECAUSE REMEMBER, JOEL STEIN GOT 1% IN MICHIGAN, WISCONSIN, PENNSYLVANIA, THAT EXCEEDED THE MARGIN OF TRUMP'S VICTORY. WE ARE TALKING A BIG JUMP IN TERMS OF ELECTORAL VOTES. LET ME JUST SAY, AND REMEMBER, JOEL JIEL JILL STEIN. SHE GETS LIKE 2% IN THE POLLS RIGHT NOW, BUT GUESS WHAT, SHE'S ALL OVER. SHE GETS LOTS OF ATTENTION. SHE GETS LOTS OF ATTENTION FROM FAR RIGHT CONSPIRACY PEOPLE. THEY LOVE HER. YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE SAYING, HEY. WAIT A SECOND. ARE THERE RUSSIANS TRYING TO EXPLOIT TULSI GABBARD CUSTOMER SHE DOESN'T NEED TO BE A RUSSIAN ACID. SHE CAN BE SOMEONE WHO IS EXPLOITED TO DIMINISH DEMOCRATS. >> Greg: WHICH IS MY POINT. IF YOU CAN'T CONTROL AN EXTERNAL PREFERENCE. IF SOMEONE IS A FAN OF YOUR BAND, YOU CAN'T SAY NO. >> Juan: NO, BUT THIS IS POLITICS. WHEN YOU SEE RIGHT WING PEOPLE REPORTING TULSI GABBARD, THEY HAVE A REASON. >> Greg: NO, ACTUALLY RIGHT WING PEOPLE SUPPORTING TULSI GABBARD HURTS THEM, BECAUSE THEY WON'T VOTE FOR TRUMP. >> Juan: NO, SHE IS STILL BEING USED BY THE RIGHT.
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