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  • Can I show you my fancy bag of clothes yes, I think I've got some good stuff for us all milk is good

  • Want to celebrate the finish right? I got some classics here

  • Come in here. Wow, these are we got a few of these and then I thought you might like this one. This is like

  • Maybe if you could me style okay. Yeah, yeah

  • Do you want to go sorta, you know almost underarm like that or this is just pure overall. I don't know

  • I think I would go over armed because I'm used to that one. Yeah, I'm

  • Looking forward to you embarrassing me

  • Alright here goes nothing. Oh

  • Holy shit

  • Yeah

  • Wow

  • It is said not by me. But by their nordic neighbors the finished people are weirdos Oh

  • Their language is basically elvish

  • They're aloof and do not engage with strangers or conduct Smalltalk

  • Their hobbies include competitions such as wife-carrying air guitar playing

  • And obviously cellphone bro

  • whoa

  • And yet here I am on a cool Helsinki morning hanging out with Finland's future Olympic javelin thrower lasse had a lot alone

  • All right, you pick?

  • All I had to do to make this happen was slide right into his DMS and promised to bring some old Nokia's

  • It turns out that the Finns are in fact very hospitable and that their cell phones are sturdy. Oh

  • So they are not

  • Was there a metaphor in all this?

  • something bigger being said about Finland's nosedive into a technology apocalypse and

  • subsequent rise as a vibrant inventive force in the technology industry

  • I'm not sure but I'm gonna go with yes and try to prove it to you. What comes next?

  • We all know the idea of a company town but here in Finland so big really unusual happen it became more of a company nation

  • During the early to mid 2000s Finland's economy booms driven almost entirely by Nokia

  • In its heyday Nokia accounted for 40% of all mobile phones sold and one out of every two smartphone sold

  • Then the 2007 something terrible happened to Finland. Apple released the iPhone

  • I've come here to Helsinki to find out what happened in the aftermath of Nokia's decline. And what startups have risen to take its place

  • For starters, I'll need a primer on the decline and fall of Nokia

  • And his luck would have it this long haired gentleman. David cord wrote a book by that very title

  • He also happens to be an American but nobody's perfect

  • You know when I was researching this episode were just telling people what we were gonna do

  • Especially some of the younger people had already

  • They're like, you know was Nokia that big of a deal because I remember them being seeking out the kings of the mobile industry

  • Well Nokia was huge in Finland

  • they were

  • Integrated than everything in the Finnish culture finns were very proud of what nokia did it was our success. It was a Finland success

  • Nokia's started way back in

  • 1865 as a paper products company plush toilet paper was its first hit

  • It got into boots tires cables all kinds of stuff and then began making cell phones

  • first for this cool guy in the 60s and then for all of us

  • Can you hear me now the new iPhone is cool at all

  • Life was grand for Nokia and for Finland

  • From these glorious headquarters by the Baltic Nokia poured money into the Finnish social system

  • And then this raging capitalist named Steve Jobs came along and ruined everything

  • Today Apple is going to reinvent

  • The phone and here it is

  • My life always crazy

  • Right because I remember and this like ridiculously quick period of time

  • It's not like the company was wiped off the face of the earth

  • But I mean, it'll just lost the phone industry when Nokia started to stumble

  • I started to fail many people took that very personally

  • It was a Finnish failure there were you know thousands of people who are unemployed in the factory workers

  • software developers

  • In its moment of greatest desperation. Nokia's phone division suffered that greatest of dishonours

  • getting sold to Microsoft

  • Yeah, it was tough. There's a town called Nokia in Finland

  • Which actually the company was named for and the day the announcement broke a vandal went and changed the town sign to?

  • Microsoft okay before upset that, you know we used to be on the top of the world and now or on

  • Nokia, of course still exists and makes things namely telecommunications and data infrastructure gear

  • But where the company used to employ thirty five thousand people in Finland it now only employs thirty five hundred

  • Gonna pour one out for the notes

  • After Nokia, everyone is always talking about. What's the next Nokia?

  • What is the next big company that will be able to go international and have such a big impact on?

  • Finland and many people at the time thought maybe with Rubio

  • Rovio created Angry Birds one of the first gaming mega hits of the iPhone age

  • But while they had a few hot years it soon became clear that Nokia levels success was not in the cards

  • Eventually, we came to the side

  • That's not gonna happen again

  • We need to be more diverse. We need instead of having one gigantic company. We need to have a 10 good profitable mid-sized companies

  • The birds may not have replaced the notes

  • But they did kick off a gaming boom in Finland one that came to be dominated by supercell

  • The maker of all your favorite games and the master of your time

  • Supercell has only 300 or so employees, but it raked in about 1.6 billion dollars last year

  • 100 million people plays games every day some of them spending thousands of dollars to upgrade their compounds and farms

  • and all of this winning happens in a strictly shoes off workplace a

  • common trope among finished startups that supercell claims to have invented

  • Ilka here the CEO is beloved by his countrymen for creating Finland's biggest post Nokia success story

  • I'm here to find out how he did it and hopefully score some free upgrades in clash of clans

  • You know for my kids

  • When you guys started supercell, what were you trying to do maybe in the gaming industry that was was different, you know

  • It seems to us that most games companies. They're Oregon organized very like in a very traditional about

  • basically, they had this hierarchy and the underlying assumption is that the leadership knows best what to do but in in games business I feel

  • That it actually is the game developers who are obviously are their closest to the games. We know best

  • I bought double games the company should do

  • so therefore we had this idea that what if you would like flip this traditional model like, you know,

  • The game developers would own the vision of what double games they would do

  • The strategy has made super so one of the most coveted places for game developers to land a job

  • Like Seth here the game engineer on clash Royale who moved all the way from San Francisco

  • I had always been aware of supercell not always kind of looked up to them as a an ideal place to work on

  • Mobile games do you think you're gonna stay here for a long time?

  • I bought a flat this week if that's real put that on camera

  • Other supercell imports like Bryce who hails from France bring new characters to life with their fancy pens

  • They fight among each other to get their characters onto the most prized real estate the game startup screen

  • The loading screen is that light? That's the prize. That's the best parts of a masterpiece of

  • Course there's just one problem with putting the creatives in charge

  • crazy-ass perfectionism

  • the way this philosophy is translated is that you guys are very careful about

  • What you actually release and that you cancel games all the time. How many of you killed over the last nine years?

  • There's no dozens or it's probably doesn't I think there's some story the Girona playing and and in the time that you're flying across

  • Some David you were pretty happy about God got whacked. Yeah, it was actually one of my favorite games

  • He's ever done. I used to play the lot for example with my kid son, and I really really loved that game

  • And then I just heard what the team had got together, I guess in a typical Finnish Finnish sauna

  • And then they had had a like show of hands

  • But you know who believes that this is the best game that they can make and you know

  • I don't think about many like hands went up and then they decided well, that's if that's ok

  • Let me should just kill it. How did you explain that to your kids? Oh, you know

  • Have you run this day I dunno that's me

  • Some doesn't call myself like the least least powerful CEO

  • My goal is that teams make, you know, most difficult all of all of the decisions

  • Which of course means means that I make very little or no decisions

  • So let's say that supercells games are exactly good for you

  • But I will say that these fine people seem to be having a good time making them and bringing

  • ungodly piles of cash to their homeland in the process

  • And you're telling me you cannot get my son Jules

  • Now go outside and play

  • To see what's next for the finished tech scene I scooted right into a former hospital

  • Which has been turned into a startup incubator called Maria 0/1

  • This place has it all

  • Gurney's

  • more Gurney's

  • tunnels full of startup refuse

  • wheelchairs hanging from the ceiling and

  • A cemetery right outside where venture capital goes to die

  • This hospital is founded in

  • 1990s and then we took over

  • 2016 so currently we serve over 130 startup companies. It's the largest startup campus in the Nordics

  • The startups here make all types of things from games to corporate software

  • But the freshest startup in Moorea zero one is certainly Nava which produces a high-tech version of a green wall

  • Until this is like breathing in 1,000 trees at once

  • All around the world

  • We see these plant walls

  • But this was the first one I've ever

  • That I've ever run into that had yeah a lot of built in technology into it as well

  • Yeah, so instead of a plant being just a decorative part of that

  • We have removed altogether the soil from the system almost all of the air purification in plants happens in the root zone

  • Microbes not in the leaves as people think okay. And if your plant is growing in soil the air is not touching the microbes

  • We could rid of the soil in from the system and then on top of the product there are fans

  • So it biofilter raise the air

  • 24/7 in your room and this makes the air purification of plants efficiency over hundred times more more efficient and

  • We're talking about you've sold like hundreds thousands. Yeah, so now it's the biggest Greenville company in the world

  • We have about 3,000 units in our our customers place right now how kind of bigger vision is?

  • How can we help a billion people to enjoy nature and breathe forests great air in the building environment every day

  • Now that we've learned that the shock paddles have been applied in Finland's tech scene has come back to life

  • I would like to show you just how much better Finn's are as humans than the rest of us

  • It's the annual eating of the herring in Finland but gossip for safari

  • For one week in October people come here to downtown

  • Helsinki to gorge on the freshest of fish and other delicious smoky treats

  • They jockey for position prepare Instagram posts and enjoy some Tolkien inspired folk

  • Yes, Jesus

  • As he may have heard life is good for the Finns

  • The kids are smarter than yours

  • Their health system is healthier than yours and my god their parks are parking our than yours

  • These fins also eat really well on a square plate is some old fed

  • lightly smoked pork and boiled garlic emulsion on top

  • Here I am at your run-of-the-mill fast casual joint

  • popping some bubbly

  • And gobbling up a ham and cheese roll

  • followed by a nasa inspired marshmallow made out of beets

  • Good, that's crazy

  • But the future of food for Finland and the rest of the world may be here

  • Where protein is grown in a VAT overseen by the finished version of Walter White

  • This is solar foods with its headquarters in Espoo on the outskirts of Helsinki

  • We make food out of thin air using just electricity water co2 and some minerals as the main ingredients

  • Have you ever seen Breaking Bad?

  • Yeah, is there anything else we should know that happens in here?

  • This is pretty legal, okay

  • Until the pivot to full-blown meth labs needed

  • Solar foods is focusing on making protein and other nutrients with as little water and other resources as possible

  • No cows. No soy fields just bacteria being fed in a tub by Nature and

  • harvested by lab coat wearing laborers

  • In a sense what we are making is an ingredient for different food products

  • so tofu yogurt breakfast bars, or

  • Any meal that one could think of?

  • solar foods grab co2 from the fresh finish air and hydrogen

  • Produced via solar panels and uses this fuel to feed a microorganism

  • discovered by scientists in Finnish soil

  • The bacteria is then fed a cocktail of water and a secret blend of elements such as iron sulfur and calcium

  • The slurry of goodness is then dried to produce a powder

  • That's 65% protein with a few fatty acids and carbs making up the rest

  • This is the end product this yellow is powder

  • Protein powder and then this is just the liquid form of that

  • And how long is the drying process take it takes about the day to dry bunkie local?

  • Solar foods calls this stuff. So lame powder

  • Is it vetted by the FDA yet? No, is it safe for consumption?

  • I'm told yes, and since I'm the guinea pig for a technology show my gut is your gut

  • This is my personal vegan pancake recipe. It's like the regular ingredients for pancakes pretty much

  • Except we're replacing eggs with with silane powder

  • That's the magic moment

  • All right here goes our better

  • Yeah, you're a pro

  • Do you want to try it first I'll try it this is this is like the pancake of the future

  • I've never eaten pancakes grown in a laboratory before

  • It's a delicious pancake

  • Those dudes may cook a mean protein powder

  • But the true star of the finished healthier food movement is this one Maya it Conan the

  • co-founder and CEO of golden green

  • Golden green makes a vegetable based meat replacement called pulled oats

  • Everyone I met in Finland eats it

  • It's in the grocery stores in a variety of flavors

  • You can even get it at Taco Bell inside the vegan burrito

  • It's a thing a brown chunky thing

  • Maya and I met in a former Nokia cable Factory where else to try out some pull notes

  • You're not trying to mimic meat necessarily at all, right. You're just trying to make something that's sort of delicious that's made from oats

  • That's the exactly through and and it might be to the final application

  • It's mimicking, you know, because when you make a burger it needs to be something that feels like a burger

  • But what actually doesn't mimic is the incremental instinct ingredient least

  • We actually want to make sure that you have few things and they're really healthy and really clean label and everything is based on that

  • What are the big advantages of us it's not meat or yeah, I mean what yeah why yes, it's not originally

  • It's like marvelous. It has so good health benefits for your heart health and digestion and blood sugar and it's like medicine, you know

  • Thanks so much it's like a curry

  • It's delicious, I mean I read this idea anyway

  • So when we got started we didn't even plan to sell in Finland

  • this was like two years ago or is this 2016 but we thought let's just

  • Aim to test it in a couple of grocery stores

  • Then it was so funny because what happened was that people could entirely crazy

  • Although all the newspapers started to call us and all the buyers start to call us

  • So it was like, okay, we're gonna sell this in Finland, you know, and actually the market grew like 700 percent during that year

  • Unlike just about every other company in Finland

  • Golden greens headquarters are not in a former Nokia building

  • They're in a former bra factory and it's elevators real and spectacular

  • This is where pull doubts come to life so these are the basic ingredients

  • Yes, actually, this is oat flour

  • Then we have a fava bean flour. Then we also have a yellow pea pea protein, but that's about it

  • Okay, and then the magic the secret is how you blend this all together? Absolutely

  • Yes, so we first make like a dry material based of these ingredients. Okay, then we start

  • Moisturizing and baking it and it becomes something like this. Okay, so this

  • This goes through like a machine and the machine in the process. That's all

  • Top secret nobody gets to see that

  • But I am allowed to see this a brand new venture for gold and green

  • And it's sizzling salty and pork ish it's something that can be made to to replace like chicken

  • And this is not a debate

  • Maya refuses to call it bacon

  • But it's pretty much bacon and it might even be good. I

  • Mean that's delicious got all the like nice salty fatty kind of feel to it. Yeah, I

  • Like this a lot

  • And now thanks to a brave volunteer from golden-green a

  • Better living through Finland interlude that will come as quite the shock to my American friends. I

  • Present to you a baby a

  • mother and

  • a baby box

  • This is something that the government

  • Sends to every mother

  • Yes, or you can like choose you maybe don't want this and you can take the money. So it's 170 euros

  • The box is this meant to be like a crib. Yes. It is like a safe and comfy place to sleep

  • But also in this box there is 63

  • Items, okay. No, there is like the first baby book

  • You get all these clothes all the clothes in

  • Finland it is quite common that

  • You leave the child outside

  • To take a nap. Okay, so that's why we need a lot of quotes. So the baby's warm they sleep outside

  • yes, that's all seasons or just what it's

  • The wintertime. Why do they sleep outside? I think it's it's good for you

  • How much maternity leave do you get in Finland?

  • 9 months

  • So in the box

  • There's also the hygiene things it is for the baby and also for adults

  • You get like a

  • Man you guys think of everything. Yes. I think I know that

  • One day the American dream will also include state-provided lube, right, right

  • By now

  • you're probably thinking these fins are godless vegan socialists who have an unnatural amount of concern for nature and

  • general well-being

  • This is probably even true

  • They also have a thing for relaxing in the glorious outdoors like this open-air Oasis on Helsinki's waterfront, I

  • Give to you the Alice pools

  • Steamed to perfection

  • And refreshed and frozen by the Baltic Sea I

  • Returned to the mean streets of Helsinki to find out the other ways in which the finns are better than the rest of us

  • Which brought me here to a start-up and Suvi jaime

  • she is the co-founder and CEO of sulla panic and

  • They want to replace plastic with this

  • What is important in our material it's micro plastic free

  • eventually plastic degrades into micro plastic particles and they stay

  • hundreds of years or even permanently in the nature

  • But we have created almost all the benefits of plastic without the plastic waste problem

  • The big idea here is to take waste wood

  • Mash it up with some plant matter and create a substance that can be molded into all kinds of things from straws

  • to containers to coat hangers

  • Then when you're done with the objects you ditch them and they gracefully turn back into play it matter

  • we make our materials out of wood and natural binders and

  • These plant-based binders they degrade so they can be eaten by natural occurring microorganisms

  • Ok, so no micro plastic left

  • Soula pack has pulled in some big-name investors including Chanel

  • And it started making its products in factories all over the world

  • Here are their straws coming to life in a factory in st. Louis

  • And unlike paper straws these wooden things actually work

  • So with the straw

  • How long would this last compare like a paper straw when I put it in a drink every second it's usually melted by the end

  • Of the drink. Well, the criteria is that if you change the drink you have to be able to use this one straw

  • So the whole evening you're able to drink mojitos Frances, which is my favorite drink. What is one straw?

  • We need new

  • Initiatives to make these micro plastics free materials because there is so much plastic out

  • There you with one company with one material. You can't solve it all

  • Of course if experimental protein and plastic induced shame is all too much for you have no fear the

  • Fins still have you covered?

  • Here at a traditional finished restaurant a very nice set of ladies will set you up with finished gin

  • Scrumptious reindeer moose a ski loaded with shots

  • And one hell of a bear pie

  • Well fed and well lubricated I set out for helsinki's wooden house district

  • These beauties were built back in the early 1900s so that the workers of Finland could have nice places to live

  • and nice gardens to tend

  • Their symbolic of Finland's famed social support system that has made Finns some of the happiest people on earth

  • Bless you Finland and your wheelbarrow gardens

  • Of course progress often has its own plans

  • The workers here for example have been replaced by artsy hipsters

  • seeking a trendy neighborhood and

  • Soon enough workers and hipsters all over the world might be replaced by robots

  • The don't care about social systems or pretty Gardens at all

  • Hello robot overlords

  • Here at Helsinki is most scenic garbage dump are some hard-working robotic arms from a company called Zen robotics the

  • Zen part obviously being some bizarre marketing ploy because there's nothing calming about these things

  • Their mission is to divvy up industrial trash sorting things like wood and metal into their own piles

  • How do you get the robot to see you know that it's not wood that it's a piece of steel a plastic bag

  • All this stuff is so amorphous and ever be use cameras. We use metal detectors

  • We use 3d sends us and we used all the near infrared sensors the AI is able then to predict

  • Okay, what kind of material?

  • We try to understand how is a human operator

  • Sorting waste and he is not picking it and putting it here it picks and throws

  • Yeah, and we simulated the same movement. So our robot opens a grip and lets the object fly

  • And what do we know about how accurate the robots are

  • Depending on the different kind of ways. We can go to a purity up to ninety percent

  • Here we go. Take a closer. Look. Yes. Okay, so

  • The waste comes up it goes on this conveyor belt and then this is where it's getting spin and

  • Then in this moment where it's getting scanned, it's telling the robots down the line

  • There's gonna be an object coming then I want you to grab. Yes

  • And then the arms start to go to work yes the robot gets to pick which trades and to throw it in which spin I

  • Mean, it's a really good jobs and way of picking up these

  • Objects that are such different sizes. Yeah. Yeah

  • You can believe that there many men hours invested to really develop a gripper what is able to grip?

  • total different kind of sizes shades and

  • I think that is one of the biggest challenges

  • Zen robotics recently put its robots to work right here in the heart of Silicon Valley

  • At this massive garbage processing facility in San Jose

  • Artificial intelligence and trash commingling and harmony just the way nature intended

  • Back in Finland. I took a drive from the dump to ESPO. It's a city about 25 minutes outside of Helsinki

  • That is something of a tech suburb

  • Nokia's once glorious headquarters are here and

  • So to arts more sedate current headquarters

  • and

  • The Angry Birds are here, too

  • But I have not come des Beaux for disgruntled birds or airborne pigs, I

  • Have come to see some satellites

  • This is the headquarters of ëyesí

  • It's one of a handful of startups that have built small satellites that take constant pictures of what's happening on earth

  • How many satellites have you guys put up today?

  • The commercial constellation that we operate right now is three solar three satellites and then your satellites their mini-fridge

  • Yeah, and then you also want to try and surround the earth with with dozens hundreds of these things, right

  • Yeah, so we really want to make the system that allows you to sort of

  • Reliably and accurately and sort of objectively

  • See everything at the whole times. It's almost like, you know having a sort of a

  • MRI scan for the earth

  • Ëyesí satellites travel from pole to pole every 45 minutes

  • Rather than cameras

  • They're three small SATs use something called synthetic aperture radar or SAR

  • To pound the earth with microwave signals from low-earth orbit

  • They then used signals that are reflected back from the earth to build images of the surface

  • Unlike cameras SAR can see through the cloudiest of days in the darkest of nights

  • Ice I combined this radar technology with advanced image processing and computer vision

  • software to create highly detailed pictures

  • To a peek at some of these images and walk through kind of what you guys do

  • So this was an example of the hurricane durian in in, Bahamas

  • We were able to image this exactly when the hurricane was on top of the island

  • This is the island as it normally is

  • then in in the afterwards the land border used to be here and

  • I think here's a really dramatic thing is that all of these red dots are me no buildings, you know fully submerged

  • This is exactly you know, what becomes a sort of insurance information yet proves that others the flooded and yeah, yeah

  • And then proof is one thing and then of course in just ability to react it like now, you know

  • What if you could trigger the payment to these these guys?

  • Automatically so that like the people get to rebuild their lives and so forth. So, yeah

  • Now here we're looking at large tanker the grace one it relates to the sanctions to Iran

  • It became this big story when it was impounded in Gibraltar

  • When it was said that it was headed towards Syria with a tank full of Iranian oil

  • This is an image from a while back where we're able to see the grace one ship here in the Iranian shores

  • Okay in in January

  • So maybe the US knows where this tanker is the NSA knows the CIA

  • And they can choose to make public what they want. But basically with you guys

  • I mean there's a democratization to all this where anyone who's willing to pay for your imagery, you know

  • Yeah, it's not just in the hands of these few governments now. It's like everybody good. Yeah can know what's going on

  • Yeah, I think I think that's you know part of the part of the big story here in the case of this tanker

  • Like what was really interesting is what was it full or was not full powerful was it?

  • If it's full of oil it's down in the water and you're getting something on yeah

  • Just the depth from like a shadow off the water. Yeah

  • And this is a mine it's an open pit mine

  • So, you know

  • This is like the more mundane use case here is just that you monitor the progress of the mining activity, but of course

  • You know the safety of is there some display ventilation you're likely to cause

  • Landslides or is there some underground mining that is likely to cause collapses

  • When it started in 2014 ice I was the very first company to build a commercial satellite in Finland

  • Since then, it's raised more than 65 million dollars from investors and

  • Plans to launch a constellation of 18 small satellites in the next couple of years

  • Right now we're sort of fully booked with customers. So there would be some governments there

  • There would be some insurance some finance

  • I mean, there's like a ton of positive use cases all the stuff

  • I do think some people though would be creeped out a bit right about this all-seeing eye

  • That is keeping track of what people are doing

  • I think you know as far as sort of like the sort of creepiness honest or personal level

  • I think a lot of the the sort of mobile phones, you know internet, you know

  • Google type services like they tend to track you to much higher position and we ever are so like, you know

  • We would never really be

  • In the business of identifying humans, like, you know, we don't image faces or like the resolution is way lower than that

  • For us it's about objectivity of being able to provide as neutral source of information as possible

  • Hey, I robots and super fancy satellites are all well and good probably

  • But no visit to Finland would be complete without exploring its oldest and most famous tech

  • The sauna or as they say it hear the sound

  • And since Finland is a tiny place full of accommodating people I was able to find not just a sauna

  • But the sauna and not just any sauna companion, but these on a companion

  • Finland's most famous actor. Yes, Bert Bach on it

  • Along with having an outstanding 6-pack jasper owns this beauty

  • He joined me at about 11:00 p.m. To teach me the art of the sauna and

  • What it means to the Finnish people

  • When you walk into a sauna

  • you're stripped down from your clothes your stripped down from all the titles your wealth you leave your wallet outside and

  • It's just a bunch of people at their most bare

  • state of being and

  • It's really hard to not be honest when you're so exposed and so bare

  • So this is a pretty common thing is to take over here and hash things out. Yeah

  • sauna is the only word from Finnish language to travel to other languages as a common word to use and

  • And saunas are more common in Finn. It's more common to own a sauna that it is to own a car

  • Okay, which means every single person has a song. Yeah

  • Everybody has these sounds but the ones here are very traditional and well, you know what?

  • What is the classic Finnish sauna the real song it would always be a would heat?

  • Would heat it sauna because the burning of the wood gives it gives the other song lights

  • Hit this very distinct flavor or this load right load of the word means like the spirit of the song

  • I'm going to feel when you throw water on to the sauna heaters rocks

  • That's load and you just get much better load when you are heat it with wood

  • Perhaps unimpressed by my grasp of the Finnish language

  • Gasper decided it was a good idea to complete the sauna experience

  • By subjecting me to a ritualized form of icy torture

  • To our necks, and then we take a few deep kind of just easy breaths try not to hyperventilate

  • Alright, let's see now you start feeling this on

  • tingling

  • Able to breathe now

  • And you don't feel cold, right? No good actually. Yes

  • Once you do it a few times first you get used to it. Yeah, and then you get addicted to it

  • So how many times would you do that during the course of a saw that session I usually do it four times back and forth

  • Okay, so sauna swim sauna swim and then you end it with via with the swim. I often say that

  • Sauna is like the church for a normal average Finn he or she goes to the sauna

  • You're in silence and you sweat out the daily sorrows both mentally and physically there's something church like

  • Sadly, I think our version is like football game

  • You

Can I show you my fancy bag of clothes yes, I think I've got some good stuff for us all milk is good

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