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  • LAURA HUGHES: We've come to Northern Ireland

  • to look at the impacts of Brexit and the upcoming

  • general election on the region.

  • Behind me is the Peace Wall, a symbol of the troubles

  • that this part of the UK has faced for years.

  • Well be talking to those fighting

  • on both sides of the debate to see what's at stake,

  • and what it means for the future of Northern Ireland.

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  • Before 2017, the DUP were a relatively unknown force

  • in British politics.

  • But all that changed when Theresa May came back

  • from a general election without a majority.

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  • The DUP's 10 members of parliament

  • gave the conservatives the majority

  • that they needed to stay in power,

  • through a Confidence and Supply Agreement that

  • guaranteed this region of the UK one billion pounds.

  • But Brexit made that relationship

  • increasingly difficult over the last two years.

  • And the party voted down Theresa May's Brexit deal

  • on three separate occasions.

  • Then Boris Johnson came in, and he did a deal

  • that Mrs may wouldn't have dared to do.

  • It involved putting a trade barrier

  • down the Irish Sea, something that

  • is unacceptable to the DUP, who have consistently

  • argued that Northern Ireland should leave the European

  • Union on exactly the same terms as the rest of the UK.

  • It was the DUP's vote that made a real difference

  • when Boris Johnson put his deal to the House of Commons.

  • It failed, meaning that there was

  • no other course of action to take

  • but to call a general election.

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  • JEFFREY DONALDSON: So this is back in the early 1990s--

  • mid 1990s, meeting Bill Clinton when he became interested

  • in the peace process.

  • This was our first meeting with Tony Blair when he was leader--

  • became leader of the opposition before the '97 general

  • election.

  • I was elected in '97.

  • Here's the challenge.

  • If the economy is harmed by Boris Johnson's deal,

  • that's going to undermine political progress

  • in Northern Ireland.

  • It is going to undermine political stability.

  • And I think the prime minister should sit back and take note

  • that none of the main parties in Northern Ireland

  • support his deal.

  • Is that really what he wants to impose

  • on Northern Ireland, a trade border in the Irish Sea, when

  • he said there wouldn't be one.

  • When he said no conservative prime minister

  • could agree to a border in the Irish Sea.

  • And yet, his deal does precisely that.

  • LAURA HUGHES: Is he risking the Union?

  • JEFFREY DONALDSON: Well, he's certainly

  • risking political stability in Northern Ireland.

  • And I think this does harm the Union.

  • Anything that creates a separation between Northern

  • Ireland and Great Britain has, I think, the potential

  • to undermine the integrity of the Union.

  • And it's not just Northern Ireland.

  • I think if the prime minister proceeds on this basis,

  • it will probably enhance the calls

  • in Scotland for a referendum there.

  • The SMP are going to, I think, latch

  • onto this deal as an excuse for having a referendum.

  • So the prime minister needs to be very careful.

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  • LAURA HUGHES: For the smaller parties

  • in Northern Ireland, the nationalist ones and also

  • the pro-Europeans, this election is a chance

  • to get rid of the DUP.

  • And across the region, we've seen an informal alliance

  • spring up between the SDLP, Sinn Fein, and the Greens

  • to stand against the DUP and try and get rid

  • of a couple of their members of parliament.

  • Northern Ireland actually voted to stay in the EU,

  • and nationalist groups here argue

  • that the DUP haven't represented the best

  • interests of the region.

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  • The Brexit deal on offer has fueled

  • nationalist parties calls for a reunification poll in Ireland.

  • I'm about to talk to a veteran Sinn Fein politician who

  • was interred by the British government

  • twice during the years of the troubles.

  • ALEX MASKEY: This was 1981.

  • Kieran Doherty was a personal friend of mine.

  • Was in prison with him myself, interred.

  • This was a firing party, just before he was then taken down

  • onto the [INAUDIBLE].

  • [INAUDIBLE] and, if you like, the militant republicanism

  • were never comfortable bedfellows.

  • So that was a major choice to be taken by Republicans,

  • on the back of the hunger strikes, to say,

  • well, we're going to develop an electoral strategy.

  • Our politics has been polluted, if you like, because of Brexit.

  • For us here in the north of Ireland, the majority of people

  • here voted to remain.

  • That means a majority of nationalists and unionists

  • voted to remain within the EU.

  • This has forced people from the unionist community

  • to be pondering, where are their future interests best served?

  • Is it in the union with Europe, or the union with Britain?

  • LAURA HUGHES: Do you think also that Brexit

  • has made a reunification poll more likely?

  • ALEX MASKEY: Well, I think it has sharpened

  • the focus of a lot of people's mind,

  • in terms of what the future lies.

  • The last number of years here, certainly sounds Good Friday,

  • has meant there's been a number of changes

  • in the mindset of a lot of people here.

  • Because clearly, when you have a peace process,

  • you have more or less, and certainly not exclusively,

  • an end to violence on the streets

  • and the British military presence, and so on.

  • When much of that has been very significantly reduced

  • thankfully, then people started, and been

  • able to have a way to raise [INAUDIBLE] and their politics.

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  • LAURA HUGHES: But Brexit that isn't the only thing

  • on voters' minds as they head into this general election.

  • The storm in Assembly, Northern Ireland's regional government,

  • has been suspended since January 2017,

  • after a dispute between Sinn Fein and the DUP.

  • How has Brexit impacted this election?

  • ADRIAN GUELKE: Well, in a curious way,

  • less than you would think, simply

  • because everybody's agreed that this is a horrible deal.

  • So what's the argument about?

  • The paradox is, if people elect the Sinn Fein MP,

  • there actually is one less vote against the deal

  • in the cut of work.

  • So it's an odd situation.

  • So there are other issues that are quite important as well,

  • for Northern Ireland electors, which is the fact that we've

  • had no government since January 2017, which is a long time

  • to go without a government.

  • So there are other questions that

  • will influence how people vote, other than Brexit.

  • And there is, I think, also sort of fatalistic attitude

  • amongst people in Northern Ireland

  • that Brexit is nothing they can do anything about.

  • And that fatalism has grown with the sense

  • that the English are not paying any attention whatsoever

  • to opinions in Northern Ireland about this any longer.

  • LAURA HUGHES: No major political party here

  • supports the prime minister's Brexit deal in this election.

  • It's a deal that could have huge ramifications

  • for the future of the Union and Northern Ireland.

  • But if Boris Johnson returns to the House of Commons this month

  • with a majority, there's a question

  • over who's going to be listening to them.

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