It's like the model city off North Korea.

You have to be more or less invited to live there.

Work there, you know.

The only model citizens could stay there.

There was the 1st 1 to visit all the officially allowed locations for foreigners.

The downside Waas.

I had to present everything to Pyongyang on They have to prove everything.

I allow that I said yes because otherwise you don't have anything.

I was there for 60 days, which is a lot for you.

No foreigner.

They have to go to the very few hotels that are reserved for a foreigner sent off course.

He cannot leave the hotel anytime.

Soldiers outside.

I cannot even leave the hotel just to take a breath of air or whatever.

So you always followed today and I very often I was staying in hotels all by myself.

My guides were sleeping left and right rooms next to me.

So whenever I opened my door to walk around the hotel by accident, the two doors opened is well, So it's all very going out.

Yes, you're going out yourself.

But to be honest, I like that you know, it's like being embedded or something.

I checked almost all my hotel rooms for microphones and video cameras, and so so I did try to You know what, screw the bulbs and to see whatever was happening behind my mirror in my bathroom, where I never found anything that's always the first thing You visit us as a tourist or a visit a visit there.

We have to go there and buy flowers.

Then you have to go through the two statues of the leaders and bow and put the flowers in front of them.

One of the rules also Waas when you take pictures off any statue or monument with the leaders involved, even paintings or portrait's have you cannot crop.

You have to, you know, show everything head defeat, the arms.

So this time there were a little bit in the mist.

My guide was not sure if it was okay to take pictures of the statues in the mist, But did you, you know, and then there's lot of limitations.

I like it because, you know you have to have more creativity, have to work harder to make good pictures.

This is the new Science Museum.

When they arrive, they have toe pay allegiance to the leaders.

Of course, this picture, you see one looking at me in a whole crowd of like maybe 200 young young Children in their pioneer dresses, the communist youth dresses they have to wear when they go to school.

So, Andi, something that's very difficult for North Korea.

If you stay there for a week almost every day, you have to go to school well, where the Children are performing for you.

I think they have to train a very long time to do all these performances for tourists.

But it's usually a group of tourists.

They sit there and there's a bit of ballet they're singing and so on.

Usually very nice on.

But I was Oh, by myself, and I was feeling was feeling a little bit awkward sometimes that these young, young young Children you have to do the show.

Just.

This is one of the very few pictures I took from the minibus, but it's one of the very few images of real artist in North Korea.

The driver also he has.

He had to go to places where he has never gone before, so we had to ask directions every time.

That's why I'm pretty sure that I have seen places, villages, landscape that nobody has ever seen before because the driver just took a wrong turn every time.

So he was always lost thing.

Swimming pool is a no older health complex states back from the Soviet time.

Actually, it's something you still find in Moscow.

These very old, beautiful swimming pools with mosaics and beautiful paintings and propaganda type posters.

Answer one.

And so, in that case, that that swimming pool was wonderful.

People swimming, you know, in a dream way, have to consider my work like like a movie or enough.

Not like something politically correct or totally 100% documentary objective and so on.

I like, you know, playing with that fiction, but it's reality.

It happens in front of my camera.

But of course, as a photographer, he can change things along, you know, along the way as well.

So there's a bit off exaggeration here and there.

This, you know, combination of images, forces people to think about.

The subject I'm photographing is this really is not really is this fantasy is propaganda and things like that.

It's like you're swimming into a new environment and you see things along the way.