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  • Hello, Welcome to this Monday Post cast I'm Maddie Player joined in the studio by Nick.

  • What's we have pulled Winfield from Paddy Power on the line on Tom's Eagle has joined us.

  • That once again is like getting the band back together.

  • I feel like the originals, you know, delighted to have you all on board.

  • Anyway, we're gonna look back on the two days from the November meeting to not the three due to the Friday not going ahead due to the weather.

  • And, of course, plenty of good Irish action.

  • Two punches Town provided us with plenty of brilliant performances.

  • Lots of Cheltenham clues on display both this side on the other side, the Irish Sea.

  • Andi will also be looking at some of the good rating on later this week, later in the show as well.

  • So let's get started then, guys. 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:8.380 First off, we better start with the feature on Saturday, which was the bet Victor Gold Cup one by happy diva who was pretty unlucky last year when being brought down really consistent on admirable mare. 00:01:8.380 --> 00:01:8.710 What? 00:01:8.710 --> 00:01:11.190 See one of my favorites, as I'm sure you know.

  • Could you have seen her winning the race beforehand on?

  • Yeah, I could see it running very well in it because she's doing exactly the same last year when she was unlucky in the same race and she's very consistent.

  • She had a ground, and Kerry leaves a bit of a similar trainers to finish a wooden, isn't it?

  • You know, when the going gets tough in the goings on the soft side carried the horses seem to come to the fore.

  • So no, it wasn't surprised.

  • Tool.

  • I was just surprised by the SP.

  • I thought there might be a bit more bit more love for in the betting before, and she went off a very generous price.

  • I thought that said Slight House looked as I was coming with the winning challenge.

  • And you know, you often talk about winning rights being the best ones.

  • But the way Robbie Power smuggled Slate House into that race, despite him not jumping particularly well all the way around, I thought was an exceptional feat to even get him to challenge on Dhe. 00:01:58.310 --> 00:02:3.060 The ironic thing is that his best jump of the race probably came in the second last of the defense. 00:02:3.060 --> 00:02:4.190 He fell out because of me. 00:02:4.540 --> 00:02:5.700 He took off perfectly. 00:02:5.700 --> 00:02:11.730 He cleared it perfectly, just crumpled on landing, which was most unfortunate, whether he would have one or not.

  • I'm not completely convinced about that.

  • But he was certainly in there fighting for Robbie Power to even got in close bearing mind away.

  • Went around before then was admirable.

  • Wouldn't, you know, showed a jockey at the top of its game was just unfortunate.

  • Didn't work out for him on that time.

  • Precisely a certainly writing at the peak of his powers, but lots of good ammunition.

  • Robbie Power at some your opinion on Happy Diva and Slate House because he was the big sort of talking point for many when coming down to out with what?

  • See, I wasn't sure he was gonna win.

  • I think he probably would have won, but I wasn't sure about that.

  • Thes Children races, Maddie, and I don't know what you think about them, but they're so much dependent on you.

  • know, I tend to look at a race looking for a horse that might get better and might be better than their handicap mark. 00:02:55.860 --> 00:03:0.340 But quite a few of these Children races goto horses with experience and course. 00:03:0.340 --> 00:03:3.250 Former Really, really different from most Andy Caps. 00:03:3.510 --> 00:03:4.400 You got 20 runners. 00:03:4.400 --> 00:03:6.630 Bad ground, twisty turny track. 00:03:6.920 --> 00:03:12.880 It's all about rhythm, you know, and horses that that can handle the sort of the way these races go.

  • I think we see it year in year out that people like me trying to be a clever boy and try and find the sort of unexposed one with £10 in hand, which I did on Saturday with Palami Day picked on.

  • Never got in the race that can't get these horses can't get in the race.

  • And, you know, looking back, maybe I need to.

  • We need to start thinking about that as a big factor for the sort of Children handicapped, sort of, you know, just being ableto handle the way the races go because it was carnage again, wasn't it?

  • Everything was only six or seven finishes again, and there were fall is here hampered.

  • They're all over the place and also not happy.

  • Devers, We saw many, many times, has no problems with the hustle bustle races like this.

  • And maybe, you know, instead of looking at the weights and measures looking, saying she's highest ever marks she didn't couldn't win, said plenty of chances.

  • Not 11 We should be thinking Mawr in terms of what type of horse is going to perform. 00:03:59.160 --> 00:04:2.070 Because Braylon Doll was the same, he'd been third in a grand annual. 00:04:2.070 --> 00:04:3.090 You sort of you know what I mean? 00:04:3.090 --> 00:04:7.060 Yes, Rather than look like last time, you know what I mean, right? 00:04:7.060 --> 00:04:12.160 Rather than trying to find the one that might do it, we got the evidence there that these horses can do it.

  • So maybe and and they're bigger prices anyway, only mean they're 14 and 20 to 1.

  • That's what he said.

  • Rather than, you know, getting stuck into the 4 to 1 slates house or the 10 to 1 below me depict ones that have to prove they can do it.

  • Yeah, Do you think that's what I mean?

  • I look to this race before Hunt and I thought there wasn't a bonkers one that looked you in the face and you thought This is really well in.

  • It's almost like these races.

  • The weight doesn't matter as much anymore without being fair Common.

  • I've never been a great weight man anyway, so I've always tried to find the best horse.

  • The problem is, as I was saying that but I always sometimes think the best horse is the one that hasn't proven it yet.

  • But in these races, especially it tell him, I think, where it's all about rhythm and jumping and being able to act under the circumstances that going, maybe I should be.

  • You know, What did we see in the ground in the last year? 00:04:55.750 --> 00:05:0.040 100 to 1 shot Crock O Bay or whatever it was called down 100 times, 12 year old. 00:05:0.040 --> 00:05:1.900 But you could do it because he knew what you know. 00:05:1.930 --> 00:05:4.190 He'd handled the circumstances before. 00:05:4.690 --> 00:05:10.060 Sometimes gets, I think, guilty of gang stepped into sort of the sexy ones, is what they used to call them.

  • But you know what I mean?

  • Rather than looking at the more solid ones and happy even fitted the bill perfectly.

  • Yeah.

  • You mentioned Bellamy to pick tonight.

  • I must admit I backed him as well, and I thought, considering he all but got brought down at the first fence or I don't know when it was by a man a knocker thought he run a really good race, but probably needs three miles now, so he'd beat off.

  • I want to take out of it from me.

  • What's the any horse that you thought run particularly in behind for Warthog Ran Ran a nice race on on his return again is one.

  • If you look back at last season, you know, you could have you could have given him any choice Creek.

  • And you wanna really bold race.

  • But you know that side warthogs, slate house, you know, probably if we get similar grounds in the big in the big handicap next month, that Children's meeting, you might go back there and might might get get some recompense. 00:05:56.780 --> 00:06:3.200 But, you know, as we've seen already, he's being found by the market and the way you ran on Saturday, you're not going to get much more mileage in this price. 00:06:3.200 --> 00:06:4.970 You know, she goes to Seattle the next time. 00:06:5.090 --> 00:06:5.910 Exactly. 00:06:5.920 --> 00:06:8.060 *** are welcome to the show. 00:06:8.060 --> 00:06:18.470 We've not managed to catch up with you, so far wth the next logical target for a lot of these is gonna be the Caspian Caviar Gold Cup of you got Price Unhappy diva for that?

  • Yeah, we put her in a photo one.

  • Maddie.

  • It was brilliant to be telling them on Saturday, but seeing all the pilgrims return return to the home of national jumps racing after a disappointing down Friday.

  • Andi, I'm very placing the lease.

  • I'm pleased to say I once enjoyed a barbecue Richard and Carol A's and I put on a good good show.

  • So happy diva gain recompense for last year, and she's 8 to 1 for the Caspian caviar.

  • I wish I got invited to these barbecue anyway.

  • We'll move on.

  • We suspect about Robbie Power earlier, and he was at his very best when guiding West approach to Victor.

  • I think it was his 16th attempt at Cheltenham and Tom, What can I say? 00:06:59.900 --> 00:07:0.580 Is this all cracks? 00:07:0.580 --> 00:07:2.450 Brother is he's got the ability. 00:07:2.990 --> 00:07:5.090 Yeah, it was good with the bad race, wasn't it? 00:07:5.100 --> 00:07:5.780 Let's be honest. 00:07:5.780 --> 00:07:10.810 It was a bad race that I thought once Ramsey's to teii sort of floundered a bit under what happened there.

  • I don't think it took my twinning.

  • What would you do with him now?

  • West.

  • Approach him in the lab.

  • Brooks Trophy.

  • If he's in it, I'm not sure he is.

  • But that's the race I'd go for.

  • I think he's, you know, he's very, very similar.

  • Last year's winner.

  • Remember what say we all sat there thinking, Who is that one?

  • That one.

  • A big price last size in Tennessee?

  • Yeah, isn't it?

  • Is a 14 to 1 shot.

  • That's where I'd go.

  • I think he's confidence is up.

  • You could ride him the same way and I think you'd be in the four.

  • Definitely.

  • Yeah.

  • Okay.

  • Anything to Madame?

  • Worst approach?

  • No, he's one of those horses I don't mind taking a chance on because he's got the ability there.

  • He's got it in the tank, and you know it has to be ridden perfectly, and things have to fall right for him.

  • But I'd rather you take a chance on a horse like that that's got it in him.

  • T win a decent pot.

  • Someone maybe hasn't you know? 00:07:57.510 --> 00:08:6.480 So, yeah, I'd be interested in a decent prices and all these big handicaps this season because, you know, it's a very good chance room, at least grabbing a place on Dhe. 00:08:6.480 --> 00:08:10.910 Possibly if if the cards fall right for him, you know, hitting, hitting the top spot.

  • So, yeah, I could see him running really well in something like a Ladbrokes traitor.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • I'm preparing to eat my words here.

  • Butthole Stone was another one of the winners on Saturday.

  • And, Tom, I'm not quite convinced that we've seen the r s a winner in Britain just yet.

  • What did you think of the race That he won?

  • Look, he's a good, solid horses.

  • Never.

  • I'd be surprised if it was very soft.

  • Come, come, Children.

  • Men for the crusade.

  • A has to be in there, doesn't it?

  • Because he likes that sort of ground.

  • He's been placed as he'd been placed.

  • I think you've been placed in a state of hurdles in his life.

  • He's got, you know, jumps pretty well, you know, But he's twisting Davis horse that will get there in great form way you stays out three miles.

  • I mean, that's that is the question with him with him. 00:08:55.550 --> 00:09:2.430 I know he should have said that when I was talking about one thing about him despite being placed in the stairs that I'm no, actually committees a massive stare. 00:09:2.430 --> 00:09:2.920 You're right. 00:09:3.950 --> 00:09:6.590 Once again, I'd sort go back to the West approach thing. 00:09:6.590 --> 00:09:7.700 I don't think it was a e. 00:09:7.700 --> 00:09:9.830 I think what you were saying in your intro there is spot on. 00:09:9.830 --> 00:09:11.510 I don't think it was a brilliant racer.

  • Thought rock point run a really interesting race for the future.

  • He is Santini's brother, believe it or not.

  • So these colonies are horses you know very well, right?

  • It was an interesting one for a national one day for Milo.

  • Yeah, for Milo, Milo and then maybe a Scottish national or a grand national or something like that in the future where he stayed on really?

  • Well, him was a little bit surprised that I wasn't expecting that from him.

  • I thought he was I thought he was gonna need.

  • And I didn't think he was quite up to getting as close to a whole stone as he did.

  • So, uh, provided the handicapper doesn't smash here.

  • Might be interested in to him in the back end of the season in one of those races.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah, I thought so too.

  • What?

  • See, any thoughts on whole Stone?

  • Yes.

  • Funny is, I thought exactly the same as you.

  • And halfway up the running I thought was a moment where you just gotta got really tired.

  • And I thought I could see something finishing here and just coming to do in.

  • But, you know, fair enough fair scene out really well. 00:09:58.860 --> 00:10:8.890 And I've always had him down in kind of my mind, you know, two and 1/2 my life would be just about sees out three miles, but maybe not quite, but no. 00:10:8.890 --> 00:10:9.570 Hats off to him. 00:10:9.570 --> 00:10:13.090 He said he saw out Well, there, you know, you solid teas.

  • No, it doesn't kind of give you a while factor, Anything like that.

  • But sometimes, you know, the sordid one says we spoke about a minute ago.

  • They were the ones you need rather than a factually one.

  • So I certainly wouldn't rule him out.

  • You know, if you just go to the same march, I'm sure unless he does something exceptional between now and then, you get decent price about him and, you know, is probably a good chance of him, at least finishing in the 1st 3 Yeah.

  • Okay.

  • I'd say Saturday as well was also a Davis for not lesser jockeys, but not so much in the spotlight.

  • We had David Maxwell winning and Sam Leah's.

  • Well, good to see those jockeys getting their moment in the sun and even, I mean, I was there yesterday.

  • There was pony racing, and you could see how much it meant to get these victories at Cheltenham.

  • What's great for David Maxwell?

  • I mean, you know, I think he's 41 years of agent, you know, fair play to him. 00:10:59.330 --> 00:11:0.220 In days gone by. 00:11:0.220 --> 00:11:3.710 I didn't always look the most stylish, but I think his writing has improved enormously. 00:11:4.310 --> 00:11:6.640 It's brave of Philip hopes as well. 00:11:6.640 --> 00:11:10.430 You go for a big Saturday race with a horse like that and be easy for Philip to say.

  • Well, okay, David, you know, you've had a good spin on him in his previous races.

  • Reckon surely you're giving the pays for the pace that money takes his, You know, he's probably sent up.

  • Philip, You got the horse.

  • I ride it, pal.

  • Yeah.

  • I mean, that's obviously the way it works.

  • All I'm saying is that you know, you could You could easily envisage a situation where David Maxwell rides and maybe in this war, my races.

  • And then if it's a big pot like it was on Saturday, Richard Johnson or somebody like that comes in and rides.

  • But so I think it's ballsy of Hobbes.

  • T let him, you know, to let him do it.

  • David Maxwell has earned this chance by riding very, very well, and he obviously gets on great with this chatter.

  • Louie.

  • I think he's unbeaten since he's come over.

  • Hey, Paul's huge amounts of money into the game on Dhe.

  • You know, he's really, really worked on his writing, and I think it shows in his races. 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:1.060 And you wrote a very nice race because I think the horse isn't easy. 00:12:1.060 --> 00:12:2.610 Got loose before his previous start. 00:12:2.610 --> 00:12:4.170 Weather being still came back on one. 00:12:4.310 --> 00:12:7.770 He pulled quite hard on Saturday but still had enough in the tent to go on in school. 00:12:7.770 --> 00:12:10.640 So listen, you know top marks for David Maxwell from May.

  • I think you know, he's he's no handicapping the saddle it all.

  • Yeah, I totally agree.

  • I think it's really admirable how as much as he's plowed a lot of money into the game, he absolutely loved it up.

  • It was an excellent winning interview and his riding like it says, Come on.

  • Leaps and bounds so well done to him, Ben is before we move on, let's just get some prices.

  • I mean, Tom mentioned West approach for the lab.

  • Richthofen Whole stone for the Arcee.

  • What prices can we get about those?

  • Well, actually, I think that Colin tis up was suggesting that, um, West approach might be more of a wealthy grand national horse.

  • Maddie robbed in the lab books trophy, and we've We've inserted him into the wealth National betting This morning early this afternoon, 20 to 1 as far.

  • Asshole Stone goes, Yeah, yourself in what's? 00:12:57.790 --> 00:13:1.450 He seemed to think that he might be more of a two and 1/2 mile in our roads. 00:13:1.450 --> 00:13:6.030 Compilers agreed Immediately after the race, we threw him into the jail. 00:13:6.030 --> 00:13:11.870 Tino Mrs Chase, 20 to 1, which could about one thing about Saturday.

  • Max McNeill and Greg Stone.

  • There was a huge smile on their face when Firestone one because it frank them okays hill form from the last meeting.

  • So I look forward to seeing that horse when it runs next.

  • Yeah, well mentioned business lets me want to Sunday, then in the Schiller Chase, just the forerunners, but served up a thrilling race.

  • I think they're all in with a shout with two to go and definitely so it came out on top.

  • Tom, do you see him as a champion Chase contender?

  • Or do you think they're better off going for the Ryanair 100% bona fide champion Chase contender?

  • Yes, I think he was the star off the two days.

  • Undoubtedly, I think he's in.

  • I think it just really, really, really top horse, and I think the reality or isn't it?

  • I think he's better than anything else you're raced against last year, and I think he'd give him a real good racing. 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:0.250 That is obviously a chance. 00:14:0.250 --> 00:14:2.230 He'll go for the two and 1/2 mile of the Ryanair is now. 00:14:2.230 --> 00:14:3.750 That's what the trip you went over last year. 00:14:3.750 --> 00:14:8.880 But looking back at the jail T last year, Maddie and probably the last time I was on we were talking about the J. 00:14:8.880 --> 00:14:10.860 Lt was all I think.

  • We all said at the time that it wasn't a great race.

  • It's a bit you know, this that and the other deputies saw in Lost in translation.

  • They're about the same.

  • They won't even favorite for the Scilly Isles.

  • Believe it or not, I'm on the blind side was favorite to beat them both in the Scilly Isles novice chase, and we sort of downplaying it.

  • And since then, everything that's running the jail T has come out on one on one beer gracing vindication.

  • Real steel Father Rev kill this art.

  • They've all come out in one big races.

  • It's just red hot form, and I think that future Soy is a brilliant horse.

  • I was so impressed with the way sprints up that hill, and I think he's I think he's a danger to anything over any trip.

  • Really?

  • Yeah, I totally agree.

  • What's the art out of them in the champion?

  • Trace.

  • I think that they mentioned the Tingle Greek next, which would indicate there.

  • So the leaning towards that way. 00:14:54.790 --> 00:15:1.030 Tom's already mentioned he's got great Sandown form, just a really bonny little horse, and I thought he jumped. 00:15:1.250 --> 00:15:6.030 Maybe it's slightly more carefully than some of the others, but you'd expect that first time out for a little horse. 00:15:6.030 --> 00:15:7.560 He's just got such an engine, isn't it? 00:15:7.740 --> 00:15:8.140 Yeah. 00:15:8.140 --> 00:15:8.810 I love the horse. 00:15:8.810 --> 00:15:11.780 And I don't see any good reason why they won't go for the champion Chase.

  • If you've got the choice of both, I think you'd rather win the champion chase than Ryan There I was slightly surprised last season they didn't go down the Arkle route.

  • I thought we could have won that race easily.

  • They decided to stick with a longer route and it paid off, obviously, because he won, but arguably a faster in two miles might even suit him suiting better.

  • And, you know, you look back at the history of Champion Chase winners.

  • Most of those horses stay two and 1/2 miles.

  • Problem it.

  • Also coming back in trip?

  • Obviously no, no issue for him.

  • It'll Yeah, I know.

  • I'm very, very interesting or no shock.

  • And Paul Swap put him in this place that punches down right the end of last season.

  • But, you know, I would always have a bit of trepidation about trusting form at that stage of the season.

  • Too much, because deaf, you too. 00:15:51.700 --> 00:16:0.690 So, you know, obviously had been through the rigors of, you know, going to the Children festival, etcetera having a full season might possibly just being a little bit over the top by then. 00:16:0.700 --> 00:16:2.230 S Oh, yes. 00:16:2.230 --> 00:16:4.820 Very much at the top of my radar for the champion Chase. 00:16:4.820 --> 00:16:9.280 If I were connections, I wouldn't even dream of sending into the Ryanair and trying to stretch him out. 00:16:9.280 --> 00:16:10.610 Why not try and win a champion chase?

  • He's definitely capable of doing it.

  • Yeah, I must admit, after he wouldn't yesterday someone told me he was still 14 to 1 for the champion Shake.

  • So I was absolutely bonkers.

  • Price, I really do fun.

  • Seem for that if he goes that way Business.

  • So what price is he now?

  • Well, if you could have got 14 to 1 muddy should esteemed in out, out.

  • We went seven from 12 for the same racer immediately afterwards and is also use upturned to sew a cz favorite for the Tingle Creek Chase that sand down next month on deaf.

  • You do silly now heads the market 15 20 under So it on 2 to 1 and political coup he beat on this weekend has gone out to 5 to 1 from 4 to 1.

  • But so the Tingle Creek could be a an absolute cracker for a little of those.

  • Turner.

  • Yeah, we hope they do. 00:16:59.210 --> 00:17:0.650 On the other big race. 00:17:0.650 --> 00:17:6.050 That yesterday was the great Wood Hurdle, and Harambe got up under Tom Bell. 00:17:6.050 --> 00:17:7.850 Amir a big moment for him. 00:17:7.850 --> 00:17:18.370 Now that Wayne Hutchinson's exited the scene, he's writing a lot of Alan King's best horses in The Source was a decent nor missed last season, Tom, and he's clearly came on a lot from his run in the Persian War.

  • Yeah, good strong stare was near once.

  • Probably not the best Greatwood we've ever seen, but we keep saying that in these horses.

  • We don't actually know that.

  • As I was saying before, we were talking about the jail to bring rubbish.

  • It's in March last year and look what's happened since then.

  • So, yeah, he's a really good, strong stairs.

  • He did really well.

  • Another good writer thought you're going back to the whole meetings.

  • The general thought Phillip Pops had a fantastic, well thought Gumbel run another great race here.

  • I mean, he'd be very interesting in a county hurdle on good ground for May.

  • I think the ground was too soft for him.

  • Didn't even mention time Hell did we about to get to him yet?

  • We didn't, you know? 00:17:49.550 --> 00:18:2.360 And you know, you're talking about that novice that I'll never pronounce that David Maxwell road time, He'll same course, a distant nine seconds quicker, you know, so time Hell is a proper, proper Cheltenham Children prospect for me. 00:18:2.740 --> 00:18:6.270 It could even go three miles could even even go to the Albert Bartlett. 00:18:6.270 --> 00:18:14.930 So you know, I one of the things that I took out of the meeting was just what a great time Philip Hobbs had and plenty of his You could put enough in the track.

  • Atlas official.

  • Okay, that's interesting.

  • Time Hill and Harambe.

  • What do you think of that performance?

  • Love time?

  • Hell, I mean, the form of that.

  • The Children bump from last season working out fantastic.

  • Well, enjoy, Alan.

  • Um, sorry.

  • Sorry.

  • Had Africa tappers and forth throughout the glancing queen.

  • And 50 went on When a tree is a ll, their timing was right in the mix in that race And, you know, to go for the Persian War and then this, you know, 1st 2 starts that's quite bold from freedom, Pops.

  • He's done it before.

  • We're single Bay.

  • I think a few years ago, so again, he didn't pitch me into an easy race to begin with.

  • Straight in there, straight at the top.

  • Andi has come up trumps, and he just presents one of those annoying festival dilemmas.

  • Unfortunate. 00:18:55.910 --> 00:19:2.230 You want to get stuck into him, Ante Post because, like Tom said, he could go for Gallinari could, on short of state, three miles. 00:19:2.230 --> 00:19:3.720 Who could easily go for Albert Bartlett. 00:19:3.720 --> 00:19:14.230 And it's a guessing game as to which one he goes for, say, couldn't couldn't really better for anything and tell them I just want to take out the great would reside to think he's got big grace into its than some stage.

  • Quite a nerve.

  • Traveled really well for a long way.

  • He's very inexperienced horse.

  • There's running over two and 1/2 miles for most of last season, but I just thought the way traveled.

  • He was really quite that one state was always gonna win.

  • Maybe traveled a bit too well in the ground.

  • To be honest, you didn't quite finish out his race, but he's a very young horse whose lightly raced and I think he'll ever could put him somewhere this season.

  • Yeah.

  • Okay.

  • Brilliant business.

  • Any prices on time?

  • Helen Harambe?

  • Yeah.

  • Time.

  • He'll certainly.

  • Maddie.

  • Ah, Richard Johnson did a lovely feature with Graham Dench in your newspaper.

  • Cut the weeks ago.

  • Was digging up.

  • Time heals.

  • He didn't name down.

  • Looks like he's gonna go for the cello hurdle now.

  • And he is a 12 to 1 chance from 20 for the belly. 00:19:55.990 --> 00:20:2.390 More novices Hurdle Cheltenham No prices on around by maybe not sure what he's gonna do. 00:20:2.390 --> 00:20:3.270 No, Not sure. 00:20:3.270 --> 00:20:6.680 He'll be up to champion Hurdle class, but well done to Alan King. 00:20:6.680 --> 00:20:15.140 You won the same race with Eldon a couple years and said ago and said they've aim aim them at the great would earlier, which is a big price for quite a while.

  • Shame about that.

  • Ben is Bridge, my friend Destiny, who I played cricket with 20 years ago as a pioneer in that one.

  • And disappointing completely.

  • But I'm sure he'll be back one day.

  • I'm sure we will.

  • We mentioned the RS a picture.

  • Let's quickly give a mention to the article.

  • Sort of loud how that race is developing.

  • Anti post Put the kettle on.

  • Sprang upset in that article trial.

  • Maybe more pertinent Arkle clues happened in Ireland.

  • What did you think of the mayor's performance, Tom?

  • Cause I thought she she produced a really likable run.

  • But I'm not sure.

  • Getaway Trump and Al dancer is are as good as maybe a lot of people thought they were.

  • Yeah, that's press.

  • Probably right? 00:20:54.630 --> 00:21:3.390 I mean, I think the British novice hurdlers from last year bar Champ, we're pretty moderate bunch, judging by the Children results and what happened afterwards. 00:21:3.390 --> 00:21:7.960 And I'm not convinced we're gonna have any chance of winning the Arkle unless something comes from the good. 00:21:7.960 --> 00:21:8.670 Where from? 00:21:8.670 --> 00:21:9.270 Out the woodwork. 00:21:9.270 --> 00:21:11.280 I mean, put the kettle on is nice.

  • Did jump.

  • Well, then she did everything right.

  • But I can't believe she's gonna win on our call for May on dso for the frail dancer and get away Trump to get put in their place for a little bit disappointing.

  • I think getaway chump probably has some excuses.

  • He obviously made that terrible mistake.

  • Drifted very badly in the market.

  • I don't know.

  • Something that might have been up with it might I have no idea.

  • But he went from 64 up to 11 before something something ridiculous.

  • I couldn't believe it when I when I was watching the market on DA.

  • Maybe he's worth another try, especially when the ground gets a bit better.

  • But ah ah, as as they are called trial, I doubt it.

  • I doubt any of those will be will be troubling the judge.

  • Yeah, I agree.

  • Let's move on to punches Town then and a big story to start us off.

  • I think many people enjoy this. 00:21:57.120 --> 00:22:1.620 It was probably the highlight that we came for me, and that was for he and winning on his novice chase. 00:22:1.850 --> 00:22:4.490 Bo wasn't without mistakes. 00:22:4.490 --> 00:22:4.960 What, see? 00:22:4.960 --> 00:22:8.430 But it was great to see the engine sort of purring at the end. 00:22:8.430 --> 00:22:13.000 But I know you've not particularly been in total agreement with the fact that they've sent him tracing.

  • Yeah, I'm just not gonna be a universally popular opinion, and I was delighted as anyone to see him come home safe and win the race.

  • I just don't think there's much upside to sending or chasing.

  • You know, if you're short of his 12th birthday and I would say that for any horse, not just for 15 I'd say it for any horse in training if you it's not late in the day to start new discipline and and learn something new I don't see, you know, if you're looking at the Spring Festival is gonna be if he makes it, he's gonna be taken on horses half his age, which I think, you know, it is very difficult to turn the clock back with horses.

  • I just think for all suicide such a fantastic career.

  • And he has two Children winds, numerous great great one wins on, doesn't know connections, anything, you know, you had a bad fall at Christmas last year in the hurdle race. 00:23:0.440 --> 00:23:1.830 I just think it comes with risks. 00:23:1.830 --> 00:23:10.390 And I just wonder what the upside is, you know, for for 11 slash 12 year old starting chasing and what you can really do.

  • And it's a big question to ask him.

  • And you know what?

  • Being happy if you know, to read a read an article when you're racing pro saying I would have gone great, great career.

  • You know, we're gonna draw up stumps with him, but they're going down this chase route.

  • Hope it works out for them, of course, but would I be interested in backing him for anything big next year?

  • Next spring?

  • No, not really.

  • Just Topi, you know, I hope he can hold his head up.

  • And, you know, if you pinch is an old race, fair enough.

  • But with what we're really up to his CV.

  • It's already Francis.

  • You know that it is now.

  • Yeah, it's It's sort of curious approach that William Owens has taken, isn't it?

  • It's almost like we know he's not gonna be the force that iwas, but we're going to try anywhere.

  • I mean, playing Devil's advocate, I guess you could say, Well, he's happy. 00:23:54.390 --> 00:24:2.800 He clearly enjoyed racing and his He's taken on inferior horses here, So he's able. 00:24:2.810 --> 00:24:10.350 But I fear if they picked him into a grade one or a greater grace, all the pressure on him, we will put a bit more pressure on him.

  • And, you know, I don't know, maybe young, they've been going a bit soft, but it's not something I would have relished him going over fences.

  • Yeah, I'm sure you won't be the only one time.

  • What do you think?

  • The whole excited he's gonna be a new dad, isn't he?

  • Sees going all soft in his in his young age isn't a ah, he's a 12 year old has been a brilliant horse.

  • Absolutely fantastic.

  • What do you do with a horse like that?

  • He's still enjoying his work.

  • He's not gonna win top hurdles.

  • Probably is he, uh, I hope they don't go to too hard too soon.

  • Like what's he says?

  • I hope they don't throw him into the three miler leopards down straightaway.

  • But look, it's William Allan's.

  • He's a genius trainers, and he knows what he's doing.

  • He knows the horse inside out.

  • Let's see what happens.

  • Let's see what It was great to see him win Whatever.

  • It was great to see him win, wasn't it? 00:24:54.840 --> 00:25:5.660 Yeah, and on that note, we might as well learn pairing Duvan here, who won the Cromwell oil on Thursday, again, wasn't without a couple of mistakes, but he looks very, very good now again Tom, doesn't he? 00:25:6.050 --> 00:25:7.920 He's a superb horse him, isn't it? 00:25:7.920 --> 00:25:15.430 I think feed being at his peak and him and lt or at their peak, I think that's you know, we have been talking about races for the ages, really, really do.

  • It's just to shut.

  • Your shame is he's not a CZ tough as, ah Alfio and has his injury problems.

  • But yeah, he was back.

  • Wasn't aiming.

  • Who knows how hard how high these horses could get once they've been injured and come back for, they know, betting propositions for you.

  • They are.

  • If the price is right, If he's if he turns up in a King George a 14 to 1, then yeah.

  • No, I don't see any reason why.

  • No, he's too good a horse.

  • We know that for them, it will never be 14 to 1.

  • Willie.

  • Of course he won't because it's do van.

  • But if if the price is right, then these horses are betting propositions for me.

  • Yeah, I think sometimes we can get a little bit ageist on dhe Injury ist If that's a word about the sources, You know what I mean?

  • They can come back, You know that. 00:25:56.830 --> 00:26:3.990 I mean, this east at least horses a standing training, only you know, there are Willie Mullins is yard that, you know, they're not sitting around their dinner seating. 00:26:3.990 --> 00:26:10.840 Hey, they think they're getting fit ready and, you know, aggressive to running the horse races and on that, Clearly enjoying it?

  • Yeah, absolutely.

  • They love it.

  • Absolutely love it.

  • So, yeah, they could all that.

  • Both of them could be betting propositions.

  • If the price was right, of course they could cause that brilliant racehorses and is great to see him.

  • Yeah, it certainly is.

  • I mean, just pure joy watching for him fly the last and even coming home in front as well been.

  • It's just update us on where they could head a challenge.

  • Him or indeed, anywhere else.

  • Well, it's good to see Nick what's not sitting on the fence, It big, fairly amusing.

  • To play back his interview, Fain steams up.

  • Press Berryhill In March, we make him 16 from 33 of the jail T novices Chase and do Van Aziz a lovely performance.

  • It's gonna melt, and we made him 12 to 1 from 33 21 for the Ryanair chases.

  • Immediately afterwards, that price was too big, and he's now tend to love for the Ryan Air.

  • Fabulous. 00:26:58.950 --> 00:27:1.880 Now what did we learn about the champion hurdle picture in the Morgiana? 00:27:1.880 --> 00:27:6.360 What's he won by Saudi and many people anticipating classical dream to go and win? 00:27:6.360 --> 00:27:10.280 But he just sort of blew up and looked a chaser in the making to my eye.

  • Yeah, no, it was a really fascinating race because I don't know, I'm not privy to any kind of information from Willie Mullins is yard, but there was a, you know, a few whispers around in the summer that Saudi A might, you know, might be one for this season to come to the fore.

  • You know, obviously had that run against that squad.

  • Ellen last season when he was upsides, money fell and obviously had quite bad knock that day.

  • I think you broke his nose.

  • According T.

  • Mullens had to have a lot of time off.

  • But if you take a Spidey Lenders to pick of the crop last season, unfortunate is obviously not around now.

  • But, you know, you won the champion hurdle in great style.

  • You know, Sal Day, for me was always an interesting horse on Saturday.

  • What we don't know is the relative fitness of of both of them sell D against classical dream. 00:27:55.830 --> 00:28:2.830 What would the moment is left to work on with the pair of them was, you know, arguably a bit more fitter than the other how, like both summered we're not. 00:28:2.940 --> 00:28:4.440 We don't have that kind of information. 00:28:4.440 --> 00:28:12.260 So people who would have been disappointed with classical dream maybe not winning shouldn't tear up the tickets just yet because there might be a huge amount to come from him.

  • Where a Saudi A, You know, he could have been more ready.

  • I don't know.

  • I was very impressed with the burst the show to get to the front.

  • The kind of idled once he got there and didn't win this convincingly is maybe looked likely.

  • But I do think he's a player in the champion Hurdle.

  • The only thing you know you can regret now is you know, if you haven't taken a price already, he said he's won't favorite for the race already.

  • I think in a lot of books and you know there's not much scope for his price to change much between now and then.

  • If anything, it might go outwards.

  • If if you know Lance, that day was a full storm, so if you've missed out already, then I wouldn't be tempted to go in now.

  • We're now in November on the 5 to 1 shot, you know, running next March especially with this history.

  • We've hardly seen anything off him.

  • Yep.

  • One thing. 00:28:57.770 --> 00:29:1.020 So no punching proposition me. 00:29:1.020 --> 00:29:1.710 But is it your player? 00:29:1.710 --> 00:29:2.000 Yes. 00:29:2.000 --> 00:29:3.510 On that evidence, I think it is. 00:29:3.650 --> 00:29:5.730 Yeah, to me is a massive player, Tom. 00:29:5.730 --> 00:29:7.820 I mean, we have to be caution. 00:29:7.950 --> 00:29:11.290 Cautious, I guess with classical dream in his fitness.

  • But I think that that pinnacle moment was when he sort of sped past both him and Petty Mutual on.

  • Be interesting to see how he does next.

  • Absolutely.

  • Ah, I think the price is tells, you know, Haskell Dream is 5 to 2 on and Sally was 7 to 1.

  • I can't believe it wasn't somewhere near ready classical dream because you just know, you know, that the world would have been out, wouldn't it?

  • That they fancied one more than the other.

  • And it clearly they fancy classical dream the Malin's yard, didn't they?

  • Judging by the prices, has to have has to have been the case.

  • One thing I would say is that when you have horses coming back from a long absence like Sal D A, does often think the first time is the time to get them.

  • Trainers aren't going to leave them short.

  • First time up, risking injury again.

  • You know, if you're not fit and you go into a hard, tough race first time up, not fit.

  • It's a It's a recipe for disaster for me.

  • So I'm pretty sure he would have been very, very ready for that. 00:29:59.960 --> 00:30:0.460 Sal D. 00:30:0.460 --> 00:30:0.700 A. 00:30:1.110 --> 00:30:6.500 He's a player isn't even Think about the champion Hurdle, and we're gonna say it 50 times until we get to the races. 00:30:6.500 --> 00:30:7.850 It's not a very good race, is it? 00:30:7.940 --> 00:30:10.500 You've got Boo Verde is still the favorite is great horse.

  • Lovely booth over there.

  • We all love him.

  • Fantastic.

  • But you're struggling to find now classical dreamers.

  • Sort of.

  • Addie's bubble burst a really bona find, you know, horse to take him on, aren't you?

  • So So we're gonna a ll these horses have chances their first run of the season.

  • I think we can get to sort of dogmatic about you know how what what these horses do.

  • On their first from the season here.

  • She's never seen me go for my first run of the season after Christmas.

  • My God, I couldn't I'm absolutely I'm not very good after the after 20 runs, but my first run of the season, I'm absolutely hopeless.

  • Eso i Geno, You give them all another chance.

  • I'm still certainly wouldn't give up on classical dream.

  • Sally Yates put himself in there.

  • We're back either at 6 to 1.

  • Now.

  • Now, I wouldn't because I think there's gonna be something is gonna come out the woodwork.

  • I'm a curse of blind.

  • Found myself. 00:30:59.260 --> 00:31:1.870 If anyone wants to know, I think he's gonna be a really good horse this year. 00:31:2.190 --> 00:31:4.860 But there's something will come out of the woodwork. 00:31:4.870 --> 00:31:6.700 And it could be one of the novices. 00:31:6.820 --> 00:31:10.870 Couldn't you could see a envoy, Alan, or something like that.

  • Or, you know, taking in the champion Hurdle because of the you just could, because of the lack of proper, you know, the mountain in the proper two mile hurdlers.

  • So what about those two?

  • It But the current prices?

  • No, but I'm quite happy to see one of them win.

  • Yeah, you know, no problems.

  • Okay, We do need to get a move on because we do have two great contest this weekend to look up, But Ben is quick.

  • Just reminder on the champion hurdle market now.

  • Yeah, well, change at the top end.

  • Maddie, a Saudi a of some shrewd, is back at one of 33 21 and 20 to 1.

  • The prices.

  • Nixon mentioned a huge prices.

  • He now shares favoritism with boomer dare.

  • 4 to 1 classical dream was afraid of one favorite, and he's now He's now five toe once the salvia in classical dream of flip flopped as a result of this weekend. 00:31:59.910 --> 00:32:7.340 Okay, also on Saturday, I do want to mention him quickly because I was actually really impressed by men that was notebook winning under Rachel Blackmore. 00:32:7.340 --> 00:32:7.550 What? 00:32:7.550 --> 00:32:12.110 See, I thought he just jumped superbly, and I can't believe he's 25 to 1 for the article.

  • I know he sort of looks maybe a bit more of a stale, but anyone who jumps that well, I think he's going to put others under pressure.

  • And, yeah, I need to take a bit like 20 fives, I think.

  • What do you reckon?

  • Yeah, very impressed.

  • I mean, would So I think I think really did too early.

  • That article was a bit of a murky picture at the moment with them, you know, the two British ones being beaten Sunday by horse put the kettle on the struggle to see maybe winning an Arkle.

  • There's one I could throw in that it didn't actually run at the weekend, but run a few weeks ago.

  • I think Thomas Darby's did interesting.

  • Took quite a lot from his Chase debut.

  • Warrior.

  • Um, yeah, he's taken on race, but also Harry skeletons on Dhe jump pretty well, and I think there's a huge amount more to come from him on.

  • Just briefly on the weekend, Youngworth and the Boulder with molest you were talking about legends.

  • You know, Woody Mullins. 00:33:0.110 --> 00:33:4.890 How on earth is he convinced the UN worth to go over those big banks and that kind of thing and show his best foreman. 00:33:5.070 --> 00:33:18.110 He was also hit a bit of an enigma at the end of his days of Alan King, and I thought, if once assault in the Boulder and Yan with a cross country chase, So I thought if you could work the oracle with him than you know, serious train should be knighted.

  • Whatever you know deserves all the awards going because, you know, amazing to get him back.

  • And he's probably a player in a cross country division.

  • Yeah, he certainly got that Class educ, Tom.

  • I mean, but labor joins the only one that we haven't covered from Island left on my list, including Young with a notebook.

  • What did you take out off those three performances?

  • Interesting.

  • The sort of reaction to battle over a door.

  • And I think people are expecting a little bit more from him on Dhe.

  • I could see that, but I think he's just that I think it's a fantastic jumper.

  • Yeah, I really do think I think, you know, in in time would be a national war.

  • So if he ever, you know, But you probably too good for that.

  • But he's an absolute brilliant jump. 00:33:57.590 --> 00:34:6.250 Whether he's when we can run fast enough is the problem for me because he sort of didn't you know it wasn't you looked a bit slow, didn't he? 00:34:6.250 --> 00:34:16.670 On Occasions on Sat on Sunday, But he's a brilliant jumper, and I don't think we should be underestimating the former Beat, a very experienced Children festival winner in any second.

  • Now, who's rated what, 151 150.

  • You're beating him, you know, five links on your second ever Jay Star.

  • It's not a bad effort, is it?

  • You know, if you look at it in that in those in those terms, while we were all expecting him to come out and sort of do a champ and look like a superstar, you did what was required on Dhe.

  • You know, he's a really good horse.

  • I'm looking forward to the battles those two champion battle over doing as the season progresses.

  • Yeah, a list of forces that were beaten in that Florida pearl necklace from the preview but quite impressive.

  • Don cost, like presenting Percy shattered love disco blow by blow very would all grade one winners that were beaten in that race.

  • So he's clearly done well to win it, for whatever reason, on again, just back to Ubinas for a quick update on those prices.

  • Full future. 00:35:0.740 --> 00:35:5.440 Well, Maddie notebook 25 to 1 that Anthony are called at. 00:35:5.440 --> 00:35:18.020 That price is likely to contract now that people know that you're quite a big fan in the cross country chase, Youngworth is as shocked towards the end of the market type of role still heads it.

  • A 2 to 1.

  • That young wife is 6 to 1 from 20 to 1, well done to end a boulder on battle over Doi and very exciting, very exciting customer.

  • That one is out to one from 12 to 1 of the chase.

  • Thanks very much been is we will take a quick break now before looking at Ascot on Haydock on Saturday.

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  • We've got out your V surname at Ascot in the Christine 1965 Chase. 00:35:59.930 --> 00:36:3.130 That's the great to over two mile five on the BET Fair chase, too. 00:36:3.130 --> 00:36:5.770 But let's talk about the 1st 1 I mentioned first. 00:36:5.930 --> 00:36:6.630 Andi. 00:36:6.640 --> 00:36:8.730 This class has been built up for some time. 00:36:8.730 --> 00:36:9.910 What say I mean surname. 00:36:9.910 --> 00:36:18.540 Obviously, he's technically the top rated horse in the race, but out here has been a champion for many, many seasons now, and stepping up in trip This is the clash will want to see.

  • We certainly do want to say Yeah, you know, stand their ground.

  • We're waking up on Saturday morning, you know, looking all it.

  • So what should be a fantastic clash as to who's gonna win it?

  • I think my marginal preference would go to surname at the moment on, Especially around that Scott, remember of performance Out You're put in last season.

  • I think it was in the Clarence House where he jumped way out to his left and had nothing to beat.

  • So of course he won the racing.

  • He always does, but he didn't look particularly impressive in doing so.

  • They didn't seem to be any kind of reason why he would jump like that.

  • There's nothing physical uncovered, and he went on one.

  • The champion chase again.

  • Albeit not that impressively.

  • I don't know. 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:0.920 It's It's such a strange thing to say about horses. 00:37:0.920 --> 00:37:6.940 Just 1 19 races in the road, you know, tackled everything put in his path and wanted. 00:37:6.950 --> 00:37:17.310 But I don't know, I think this might be a tricky season for all to your eye, I think over two miles we mentioned defeat, disorderly, the young pretenders coming through Willy, Stay three miles is your truth reminder.

  • We don't know that we wouldn't might not know that until Boxing Day.

  • It's a tough ask you.

  • No, he's rising 10 next year.

  • Surname is the coming force.

  • He's got the form around Ascot.

  • He's looked.

  • He looks so impressive.

  • You know, I know you got beaten, I think, last season in a handicap off 1 50 escort.

  • But then, you know, in the subsequent runs he's just turned inside out and become a He's just grown and become a different kind of horse.

  • And you just wonder as well with Nikki Henson's some of them this season.

  • You look at Santini on its return this season, very unimpressive.

  • Winning Sandown Foods or Raffles didn't set the world alight when he came back at weekends.

  • And although you will be if they did win eso, maybe a few of them are just coming on for a run a little bit. 00:37:56.170 --> 00:38:3.360 I think I think I'm with certain on this on this occasion, lt or could easily prove me wrong, but make it 20. 00:38:3.370 --> 00:38:7.690 But yet I'm gonna stick my neck out, and I'm gonna say something for me. 00:38:7.890 --> 00:38:9.030 I'm going to agree with you.

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