But, like, I knowthatthat's something I'm notgonnagettoousedto.
Ugo.
I'm sayingpeoplecomeinandjustjustgivingmestuffbecauseweprobablycamefrom a similarbackgroundintermsofupbringingandstuffwherethingswerejusttighttogetevennowsee, likethere's like, a lotoftrainersandstuffthatarecomingoutnow.
I amluckyenoughtoaffordtobuythings, sobecause I wasn't abletohavethembeforeWhentheysay I'm going, I'm goingextrahearttoe, havethemnothing.
Afterwhen I wasyougotmedidn't haveitbefore, butand, youknow, likethat's oneoftheotherssawabuseabout.
I guesswhenyoucomefrom, youknow, sooverhumblebackgroundwayyoucouldn't alwayshavein.
Now, youknow, whenyou'rein a blessedenoughpositiontobeabletomake a waytogetyourself, you'regonnagohard, isnormal.
Soyouyougrewupinsalt.
I grewupinTottenhamtill I wasabout 11.
I wannasayballpark.
Andthen I movedovertoemoveHillprayersmovesoverthatway.
I alwaysfeelthat, likewhenyougobacklaterinlife, it's differentenergiesthatyoukindofalmostembraceandgetbecauseyoucangowhenyou'reyoungandit's justkindof a thingthatyoujustdoYouthinkyourparentswouldtake a Butthethingislike, especiallyfromthoseofuswhoareparents, youknow?
It's a holein a randomwoman, andit's a lotdeeperbecausenowyou'veabletomakeyourownopinionsandformyourownviewpointofyouryouknow, sortofyourrootsinyourbackground, andyouhave a certainunderstanding, like a betterunderstandingofcertainthings.
Ugo, I'm sayingmydad, forexample, tellingmerockwhenhewasinJamaica, Jamaica, isthat a lot?
When I wasyoung, I stoodrightdonkeyandstufflikethat.
Ifyou'retellingmethatwhen I'm young, I'm notcoolwhen I gobackand I'm likeseeingitandyou'llseeifyoucanimaginethat's what I call a carWeightman.
I can't wait, really, becauseitislongoverdemon.
But, youknow, I justhaven't Wehaven't hadthetime.
Yeah, mightasitsounds.
Butwithbasketballandstuff, I just, youknow, sortofbeenthekeyaspectofmylife.
Like, youknow, mylifeissorevolvedaroundbasketballfor a littlewhilenow.
Sohow, whenyousaylittlewhile, likewhendidthatstartbecoming a thinginyourlife?
Likewhenyouwasbefore 11.
Afternever.
When I wasaboutaround 12 ballpark, I juststartedgettingintoit, youknow, becausemybrother, itwashimwhooriginallysopickedupbasketball, and, youknow, hewillgooverhisfriends.
And I justwantedtosort a road.
Youfeelme S o youknow, I startedtotakeinterestinit.
Like I didn't feellike I was, uh, so I salutewhen I wasplayingbasketballoranythinglikethat.
Atthatpoint, I justknewthatthiswasmusicBlackplaying a bigpartinyourlifeaswell, intermsofinspiringyoutow, tow, Toby, a basketwithmusiclovershugemyhippopper, maskyourbody, gohandinhand.
Youknow?
Soyouknowthemusicculture.
Andmusically, I'vealwayslovedme.
I playedTrump's fulloperatedbasketball, youknow?
I mean, when I wasyoung, youknow, playedjumpsuptothreeyears.
Youknow, mydad's alwaysbeenbigonmusic.
Listen, I remembergrowingup, andhewassortofin a studio, and I rememberhim.
ListenintofelononBobMarleyand a lotofjazzandsaxophoneandinstrumentalslike I justrememberoneofthosememories.
Somusic's alwaysbeenlikelovemusic.
Yeah.
HowoldwasyouwhenyouwenttoAmerica?
Doyoubetterdo 16.
16.
Andyouain't collegedaynow.
First, I wentthioonhighschoolfortwoyearsofhighschoolfortwo.
Sowhichistheequivalentof a levels?
Yeah.
Anddidyouleave?
So, didyougoonyourown?
Yeah, I wentonmyown.
Um, I wouldsaywiththewholefamily.
Okay.
Howwasit?
Like, youknow, believeinthefamilyfirstandgoinanddoingandjustbeingin a wholedifferentcountryin a wildway?
Um, itwasprettyeasyOne.
Yeah.
Yeah, I justknew I wantedtodo.
Yeah, I justknew I lovedpossible.
Andthiswastheshow I wanted.
I wantedtogooutthere, and I wantedto, youknow I'm not.
I knewSof, youknow, myparentsandmybrothergotmyback, andtheyknow I'm doingitfor a goodreason.
But I didn't Lookback.
Lookback.
Um, youknow, I think, um, I'm blessedtoseethingsthatway.
BothThefirstthing I realizedinthe 1st 1 I know I'm not, like, walkedinonmyfirstday.
Um, youknow, obviouslyyouknowthatschooleveryone.
Youknowwheretheslacksandcoloredthingtoo.
Youknow, thatwaseveryoverDon't youwant?
Butwe'reinEnglandatwaruniformforcalm.
Yeah, I seemlikepeoplejustlefttheirphonesonthefloorsnexttotheirlockers.
Lockerswereopenphonesonthefloor, bagsopentrusts.
Thatwassuch a wildelement.
Whenwhen I seeyoutalking, bro, whatseemedlikejusteveryonestuffwasjustlyingeverywhere I setoffarrived.
This'd iswhat?
ThedayThisishowtheothersidelivesItwaswildtobe.
Itwas a whileto.
Didyouplaybasketball?
College?
Yeah, in, youknow, inAmerica.
Yeah.
Sohowwashowwasthat?
No.
Sick?
Yes.
Likeevenplayingsportsinhighschoolandcollege.
Possiblein a way I couldgetevenPlayinglikeinhighschooliswildbecausetheyputifyoulookatthehighschoolsportsnowinthestakes, theirstadiumsinin, Ah, inTexas, theyarebiggerthansomeoftheprimusships.
Yeah, youknow, I mean, like, butwe'rejustno, toomuch.
I justknowthat I werewere, youknow, conditiontherightwaytolookatthebiggerpicture, yourtalktoonlylookat, youknow, thenexttinypieceofcheeseinsteadoflookingatthewholeblock, chief.
Butthen, umyouknow, sometimesgoingonandstufflikethattalktomeaboutthetimebetweenplayinglikecollegebasketballonalsomovingabroadandgoinandplayinginGreeceandSpain s o I.
I'm donewithcollege, youknow, lost.
Lastgamewasdoneand I gottotrainingandworkingoutagain, preparingforthedraft, youknow, because I wasThatwasmywholegoal.
Thatwasthewholepurpose.
It's goingovertotheStateswithme.
Um, andthen I didn't getdrafted.
No, I mean, howdidthatfeel?
Sohorrible, man?
Horrible.
Bythesametime, thatwasoneofthefirsttimes I thinkinmylife.
Like I hadtotake a stepbackondeepthebiggerpicture, youknow?
I mean, becausethere's onewayyoucouldsayourman.
I'm wastedallmytime.
I watch, youknow, andthensogetinthefrontrowbyit.
Butthenyoutake a stepbackandjustlookwhatbasketwasthevehiclethathasbeen?
Yeah, butYemenaswellThethingis, I mean, there's somuchdifferentthingstotalkaboutinthatsense, and I don't wanttonecessarilyhavethesameconversationthateveryone's happenedwithnewunderhere, butlackThere's thislevelofcuriousyouundersomanydifferentthings.
Likefirstly, whenyoucameintothehouseYeah, I remember.
Itwaslike a thingwhereumOh, what's what's thegirl's name?
TheonethatyoufirststatedAnna.
Yeah, becausebeforeyoucomeinfortimeswetookaboutYeah, I justneedhimtoDidn't haveanyeverotherthingthatshewanted, butshewasonlythetourguy.
No, andit's likeButyo, theydon't evenknoweachother.
Love, Let's getlet's givechalksYoulove a chancetogrowAndlovewillbedifferentforeveryone.
Yeah, I mean, thereisnolistthatsaysOkay, thisisexactlyyouknowwhatloveforyouwillbe.
Yeah.
I mean, itdoesn't youknowOh, I'llbehonestaswell, though I wasdefinitelyoneofthemtypesofpeoplethatwerekindofonthethingoff, youknow, likeoverthetimethat I'vewatchedit, youseepeoplegettogetherandthenover a periodoftime, obviouslytogooutinthelimelightfor a littlebitandthenitjustbreakupintheskyjustiswhatitis.
Andifone's lowerwillonlylastthreemonths.
Oh, there's mymytime.
What?
No, Butthenwhenyoudeepreallife, that's actuallyjustwhathappensinreallife.
Anyway, youmeetsomebody, peoplegoone.
YouknowwhatpeoplegoOneblack.
Theymeetsomebodyblack, thefirstpersoninmeandtheywiththemfor 10 years.
Likejustoffthebackofyougettogether.
Sometimesitdon't worksometimes.
Well, sometimesit's likethat.
Andthat's therealityof, youknow, I meanthat.
Andthat's onething.
Um, I thinkeven a lotoftheotherislandisthatyoushouldkeepthatinmind, man, like, youknow, you'reallhumansonAnd, um, sometimesrelationshipsthatstartwiththedopestofsparks.
I justdon't workout.
I justdon't workout, youknow?
Andit's notbecauseoneperson's badorthere's a thebadguyand a goodguy.
No, like, justdon't lookup.
Ofcourse, youknow, I mean, um, themajorityofpeopleinthisworldrelationswon't workout.
Wasthere a partintherewhereyoufeltmaybe a littlebitlike a fishoutof a warorbitoverourplace?
Orjustlike, justlike I wastheoldheadofmine?
I didn't mind.
Oh, yeah.
I wasactuallyfinewiththat.
Yeah, youknow, I mean, I saw, youknow, someoftheguysontheshowprettyyoungandandyoujustgoembracethemand, youknow, I mean, andsometimes, um, I thinkmoreso, likeinthemediaandstuff, youcangetsomeoftheseguys a breakmine, youknow, especiallytheyoungerones.
Youknow, kidsthatage, theyalreadyhave a hardenoughtimeacceptingwhotheyareondhefindingtheconfidencetobethemselves S o youknow, as a communitylikewegotnohelpfromoutman, youcan't makethingsharderforthemthanitalreadyis.
Now, um, because I justthinkthuswhenyou'renowseenby a lotofpeoplenow, you'rein a positionofinfluence, youknow?
I mean, and, youknow, justneedmorepositiveenergyinfluencedmonthandsawofflettingpeopleknowthatit's cooltobeevenallofus, thateverylastone, I wasdifferent.
Buteverylastoneofusiscoolfor a differentreason.
Therewasevenconversationsabout, like, justyoubeing a positive, um, youknow, Blackman, rolemodelandstufflikethat.
Youcanneverreallytrulytellhowanyonewillbabe, youknow, I mean, I feltlike, uh, youknow, lookinginretrospect, um, youknow, I'm justhappytohavebeenreceivedthatway, because I I journeyed, Dobelievethat, youknow, there's holes.