Businessfixedinvestmentposted a modestdeclineinthesecondquarter, andrecentindicatorspointtocontinuedsoftness.
Evenso, withhouseholdspendingremainingon a solidfootingandwithsupportivefinancialconditions, weexpecttheeconomytocontinuetoexpandat a moderaterate, asseenfromFOMCparticipants.
Today's decisiontolowerthefederalfundsratetargetby 1/4 percentto 1.75% to 2% isappropriateinlightoftheglobaldevelopments I mentionedaswellasmutedinflationpressures.
Sinceourlastmeeting, we'veseenadditionalsignsofweaknessabroadand a resurgenceoftradepolicytensions, includingtheimpositionofadditionaltariffs.
Consistentwithourdecisionearlierthisyeartocontinuetoimplementmonetarypolicyinanamplereservesregime, wewillovertimeprovide a sufficientsupplyofreservessothatfrequentoperationsarenotrequiredtosummarize.
Itwillcontinuetomonitortheimplicationsofincominginformationfortheeconomicoutlookandwillactasappropriatetosustaintheexpansionwith a stronglabormarketandinflationnearitssymmetric 2% objective.
Thanks, I'llbehappytotakeyourquestions.
MartycutsingerwiththeAssociatedPress.
Mr.
Chairman, whenyoucutratesinJuly, youcharacterizeditis a midcycleadjustment.
Isthatstillyourviewofwhat?
What's happening?
So, um, asyoucanseefromourfromourpolicystatementfromthe S e p, wesee a favorableeconomicoutlookwithcontinuedmoderategrowth, a stronglabormarket, inflationnearour 2% objective.
Atthelastpressconference, I pointedtotwoepisodesin I guess, 1995 in 1998 asexamplesofsuchanapproach, whichwassuccessfulinbothofthoseinstances, Um, asourstatementalsohighlights, though, thereareriskstothispositiveoutlook.
Sotheideaofhaving a biasissomethingthatwas a longtimepractice, andwedon't actuallyhavethatpracticeanymore, So I can't reallyadoptitrighthere, butandtheless I'llrespondtoyourquestion.
Um, I knowyou'retryingtospeakforthecommitteewhenyoudothesepressconferences, butthecommitteeisclearlydividedrightnow, atleastabouttheoutlookandtheappropriatepolicypath.
Thisis a timeofdifficultjudgmentsand, asyoucansee, disparateperspectives.
Andas I reallydothinkthat's nothingbuthealthy.
Andso I see a benefitinhavingthosediverseperspectives, reallySoyourquestion, though, isyourownview, becausethedatais, tosomeextentlagged, especiallywhenyouhavetheserisksonthehorizon.
So I wonder, whereareyourownviewsaboutbutthetensionbetweenriskmanagement, whichimpliessomedegreeofdataindependenceandthisideaofbeingdatadependent?
Yeah, so I'lltrytotrytogetatthatthisway.
I thinkthattheideathatifyouseetroubleapproachingonthehorizon, yousteerawayfromitifyoucan.
I thinkthat's that's a goodideaInprinciple, I thinkhistoryteachesusthatit's bettertobeproactiveinadjustingpolicyIfyoucan't.
I think, um, applyingthatprincipleissituatedin a particularsituationiswherethechallengecomes.
So, um, I toldyouwherethecommittee, thebulkofthecommitteeisgoingmeetingbymeeting.
And I thinkthemaintakeawayisthatthisis a committeethathasshifteditsitspolicystancerepeatedly, consistentlythroughthecourseoftheyeartosupporteconomicactivityasitisfeltthatit's appropriatethebeginningoftheyearwewerelookingatfurtherrateincreases.
Thenwewerepatientandthenwecutonce.
Thenwecutagain.
Uh, and I thinkyou'veseenit's beingwillingtomovebasedondatabasedontheevolvingriskpicture.
I havenoreasontothinkthatwillchange, I think, butitwillcontinuetobedatadependentanddepend.
Dataincludestheevolvingriskpicture.
That's where I am, andthat's where I thinkthebulkofthecommitteeisSteve.
Andsincewe'retalkingaboutthis, letmetake a stepbackandsaythisearlierintheair, asyouwillrecall, aftercarefulstudyover a periodofyears, actually, thecommitteeannouncedthedecisiontoimplementmonetarypolicyinanamplereservesregime.
And, um, we'vebeenoperatinginthatregimefor a fulldecade.
And I'm surewe'llberevisitingthatquestionduringthisinterveningperiodandcertainlyatournextmeeting, doyouthinkyou'veunderestimatedtheamountofreservesnecessaryforthebankingsystem?
Soit's a greattraditionthatwehave, andyouknowwhatthisparticularpieceofworkdid?
Isitit?
Itwentaftermeasuringtradepolicyuncertaintythrough a coupleofchannels, includingconcerningtariffsalsoconcerningthethreatofmoretariffs, anditlookedatdeeplyatthedatatotrytoassesstheeffectsonoutput.
Andwhile I wouldsaydirectlyanswering a questionthatThere's realuncertaintyaroundthesearoundtheseeffects.
Andthisthispieceofresearchresearchfoundsignificanteffects, andthat's franklyconsistentwith a numberofotherresearchprojectsthateconomistshaveundertaken.
I wasstruckbythesortofanchoredmediumfederalfundsrightherethrough 2020.
Ah, andthatincomparisontothefactthatyouhavesortofthreeverydiscretegroupsofopinionsaroundwheretheFedfundsrateisheadingand I wantedit, isitfairtosaythatwth e there's opinionshavebecomesortoffirmerintheirconvictionandthatit's goingtotakesomesortofrealmaterialchangeintheoutlooknowforthattomoveineitherdirectionandyou'reaskingspecificallyabout 2020.
Youknow, honestly, I thinkit's hardtohavehardenedexpectationsaboutwhereratepolicyisgonnabe a yearfromnow.
I thinkifyouthecloseryougettothecurrentday, themoreconfidentyoucanhave.
Buteventhen, knowingwheretheknowingwhatthedatawillsayintheandthewaygeopoliticaleventsandothereventsaregoingtoevolveinthenext 90 daysandtheimplicationsofthatfortheeconomy, I wouldsaythere's a lotofuncertaintyaroundaroundaroundthat, particularlyifyoulook a 2020.
I think I thinktheuseofthisisindividual.
Participantswritedowntheirforecasts.
Itshouldgiveyou a senseofhowpeoplearethinkingaboutthelikelypathoftheeconomyandandtheappropriatepathformonetarypolicyinthatindividualperson's thinking.
And I thinkthat's a goodthingtoknow.
I think I'd beveryreluctanttolookatitIshardenedviewsor a prediction, reallyJust t follow.
If I could.
Therewere a numberofargumentsinJulyaroundthereasonforcuttingrates.
S economyisgenerallyperformedroughlyasexpected, roughlyyourconsumerspendingat a healthyclip, I'd saybusiness, fixedinvestmentandexportsofweakenedfurtherandsaythemanufacturingPM I suggestmoreweaknessahead.
Thelabormarket's stillstrong.
Generally, thatisthesame.
I thinkifyoulookatatglobaleconomy, I thinkisweakenedfurtherintheEUandChina.
And I think, youknow, tradepolicydevelopmentshavebeen a bigmoverofmarketsandandofsentimentduringthatintermediateperiod.
Youknow, overtime, I guessthequestionis, ifyouhaveshrunkyourbalancesheet, maybejust a littlebittoosmalltothepointthatreservesaretooscarcetogetthrough, sortoftheseunusualperiods.
Isorganicgrowthinthebalancesheetenoughtogetbackto a pointofamplereservesthatcangetusthroughthosetoughtimes?
Orwouldyouneedtoseesomething a littlebitabovethat?
Andisthat a possibilitythecommitteewouldconsider?
Youknow, I thinkit's it's hardtodealwitheveryhypotheticalpossibility.
E.
I thinkfortheforeseeablefuturewe'regoingtobelookingat, ififneeded, doingthesortsofthingsthatwedidthelasttwodays, thesetemporaryopenmarketoperationsthatwillbethetoolthatweuse.
Andthequestionwillbethenasweaswegothrough 1/4 endasweaswelearnmore, youknowwhat, really, howmuchofthisreallyhastodowithwiththelevelofreservesand I thinkwe'lllearnquite a lotinthenextsixweeks, VictoriagreetedwithPoliticoanothermoneymarketquestion.
So I thinkifweconcludedthat, um, weneededtoraisethelevelofrequiredreservesforbankstomeettheElsieareweprobablyraisethelevelofreservesratherthanlowertheLCR.
I mean, it's notimpossiblethatwewouldcometo a viewthattheElsiearecalibratedtohigh, butthat's notsomethingthatwethinkrightnow.
Ontheotherhand, itmightbethatmorereservesareneeded, inwhichcasewearein a positiontosupplythemintermsoftheNetsstablefundingratio.
Um, it's I believeweputitoutforcommentandgotcomments, and I believewe'relookingatfinalizingthatintherelativelynearfuture?
Justjust, I mean, intermsoftweakstothe l c R.
I mean, there's alsobeensometalkaboutpotentiallygivingbankssomeroomintimesofstresstomaybedipintotheirliquiditybuffers.
Andwethinkwewantbanksto, youknow, tousetheirliquiditybuffersintimesofstressratherthanpullbackfromthemarketsandpullbackfromservingtheirclientsas a generalrule.
Soabout a monthago, EdwardLawrencefromFoxBusinessNetworkThankyou, MrChairman, about a monthagoorsoyousaidthatthere's noprecedenttointegratetradeuncertaintyin a monetarypolicy.
So, youknow, I don't wanttobeheardtosaythatourtoolsdon't haveineffect, theydio.
But I wasmakingthepointthatthereis a pieceofthisthatway.
Wereallycan't addressWell, I think, yeah, I mean, it's a challenge.
There's nothere's nosimplebottomline.
Answerwhere I couldsayYes, I'vegotitforyouhere, butwhatitamountstoisthisWhatyouseeisah, probablythekindofvolatilitythat's typicalofanimportant, complex, ongoingnegotiation.
And I thinkwhatweneedtodoistotrytolookthroughthevolatilityandreacttotheunderlyingforces, theunderlyingthingsthatarehappening, they'rerelevanttoourmandate.
Soweneedtolookthroughwhat's a prettyvolatilesituation.
Sothatmeansnotoverreactingquickly.
He's notunderreactingtoo.
Sothat's reallywhatwe'retryingtodo.
And, um, youknow, I wouldsaytheoutlookispositive.
Inthefaceofthesecrosswindswe'vewe'vefelt.
Andsotosomeextentthat's I dobelievethatareareshiftingto a moreaccommodativestanceoverthecourseoftheyearhasbeenoneofthereasonswhytheoutlookhasremainedfavorable.
Youknow, onethatintermsoffirepower, I thinkthat I thinkthegeneralprinciple, as I mentionedearlier, isitcanbe a mistaketotrytoholdontoyourfirepoweruntil a downturngainsmomentum.
Andthen, uh, sothisis a fairamountofresearchthatwouldshowthatthat's thecaseNow.
I thinkthatprincipalneedstobeappliedcarefullytothesituationathand.
Whatwebelievewe'refacinghere, butwethinkwe'refacinghereis a situationwhichcanbeaddressedandshouldbeaddressedwithmoderateadjustmentstothefederalfundsrate.
As I mentioned, wearewatchingcarefullytoseewhetherthatisthecase.
And I thinkifweweretofindourselvesatsomefuturedateagainattheeffectofLowerBoundagain, notsomethingwe'reexpecting, then I thinkwewouldlookatusinguh, uh, largescaleassetpurchasesandforwardguidance.
I donotthinkwe'd belookingatusingnegativerates.
I justdon't thinkthosewillbeatthetopofourlist.
Bytheway, weareinthemiddleof a monetarypolicyreviewwherewe'relookingthroughallofthesequestionsaboutthelongerrunframework, thestrategy, toolsandcommunications.
Andweexpectthattobecompletedsometimearoundthemiddleofnextyear, goingDonleywiththe L.
So I thinkthroughallofthosechannels, monetarypolicyworks, itisn't, youknow, preciselytherighttoolforeverysinglepossiblenegativethingthatcanhappentotheeconomy.
Sothehouseholdsector, as a sortofaggregatematteris, isinverygoodshape.
Thatdoesn't meanthateverysinglepersoninthehouseholdsectorisingoodshape, butoverallit's reallynot a concern.
Thebusinesssectorissomethingthatyouknow.
We'vetalkedabout a lotandstudied a lot, andthesituationthereisthatthelevelofdebtrelativetoGDPintheinthebusinesssectorisat a highlevel.
However, soisthesizeofthebusinesssector.
Soactuallythebusinesssectoritselfisnotmateriallyhigherleveragethatitwasnonetheless, thereare a lotofhighlyleveragedcompanies, andthatthat's thekindofthingthathappensduring a longcyclewhentherearen't downturnsfornowandour 11thyear, youget, youknow, youdogetthatkindofphenomenonin a longcycle.
Sothat's somethingwe'remonitoring.
And I thinkourviewstillisthatthatthatthat's a realissue.
Butwhatitreallyrepresentsis a potentialamplifierof a macroeconomicdownturn.
Youknow, So I thinkinmycolleaguesand I e think I'llthinkthatthemostlikelycaseisforcontinuedmoderategrowth, continuedstronglabormarketandinflationmovingbackupto 2%.
I thinkthat's bytheway, widelysharedamongforecasters.
Andifyou, ifyoulookatsortofthingsthatarehappeningintheeconomy, I think I personallysee a highvalueinsustainingtheexpansionbecausewereallyarereachingthethispositiveeconomyisreachingcommunitiesthathaven't beenreachedin a longtime.
Youknow, wetrytobeclearaboutthat, butreally, I thinkourjobistouseourtoolsasbestwecantoachieve, youknow, todothejobsthatCongresshasassignedus, whichisachievemaximumemploymentinstableprices.
That's a realjobintermsofgivingthefiscalauthoritieswho, bytheway, ortheoneswhocreatedusum, adviceabouthowtodotheirjob.
Youknow, wekeepthatat a highlevel, I think.
Andat a highlevel, Yes, I wouldsay I havesaidbeforethat, um, it's reallyfiscalpolicythatismorepowerfulandthatthathasmuchmoretodowithfiscalpolicycandothosethingsthatwillincreasethelongerrungrowthweightrateoftheUnitedStatesbyimprovingproductivityandlaborforceparticipationandtheskillsandaptitudesofworkers.
S Treasuries, andeventhatwaspartlymaybetoblamefortheliquidity, crunchandrepomarketsthatwesawthisweek.
I mean, doestheFedhaveconcernsovertheimpactsof a globalglutforusdebt?
Isthat a conversationthatyoualsohavewithTreasurySecretaryMnuchinaboutwhattheproperwaytomaybeaddresssomeofthechallengesdowntheroadwiththattypeofkindofheavyinterestsglobally?
Notreally, No, that's reallythat's reallyTreasuriesjobinCongress's jobintermsofhowmuchtospendandhowbigthedeficitsareandthere's howtofinanceit.
Andyouknow, theway I wouldcharacterizeitisthisthatlowratesabroadare a symbolor a sign, ratherofweakglobalgrowth, expectationsoflowinflation, lowlowgrowthAndand, youknow, justkindof a lackofpolicyspacetomoveagainstorideasabouthowtobreakoutofthatlowequilibrium.
Nowthathasimplicationsforus.
Youknow, wein a worldwherewhereeconomiesandfinancialmarketsaretightlyintegrated, thatmattersfortheUSeconomy.
Sothat's gonnapulldown U.
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Ratesand U.
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Andso I think, wayputallallofthatgoesintoourintoourthinkingandintoourmodels.